| Plans to charge motorist per mile 11:26 - Nov 16 with 773 views | onehunglow |
Idea very attractive to Surak although not sure the motorist will agree.
Political suicide .
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 11:36 - Nov 16 with 763 views | Highjack |
Wasn’t this one of Blair’s stupid ideas? They won’t be dull enough to go through with this Shirley? |  |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 11:38 - Nov 16 with 760 views | onehunglow |
Morning.
It was .In 2007 and dumped outright.
This government seems to want to self destruct | |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 12:06 - Nov 16 with 745 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Beware politicians.
An old trick is to float something extremely disagreeable then to withdraw that for something slightly less disagreeable and the people think that at least it isn’t as bad as it might have been. |  |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 12:23 - Nov 16 with 736 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Do you realise what the alternative is?
It will be to slap the current Fuel duty and VAT on Electricity.
Take your pick, because one way or the other they have to replace the £40Billion lost revenue some how. [Post edited 16 Nov 2020 16:32]
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 13:25 - Nov 16 with 702 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 12:23 - Nov 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
Do you realise what the alternative is?
It will be to slap the current Fuel duty and VAT on Electricity.
Take your pick, because one way or the other they have to replace the £40Billion lost revenue some how. [Post edited 16 Nov 2020 16:32]
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There is already VAT of 5% on electricity. It was imposed by the EU. | |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 13:44 - Nov 16 with 689 views | Ebo |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 13:25 - Nov 16 by felixstowe_jack |
There is already VAT of 5% on electricity. It was imposed by the EU. |
The claim: Vote Leave says the UK cannot lower VAT rates as long as it is in the European Union. Michael Gove said the 5% rate of VAT on household gas and electricity bills could not be scrapped because of EU rules.
Reality Check verdict: EU rules mean the UK cannot reduce VAT on goods and services below 15%, the standard rate of VAT in the EU. The standard rate of VAT in the UK is 20%, so the government could reduce it by up to 5% today if it wanted. Domestic fuel is on a special list of pre-approved goods and services that are subject to lower VAT rates and it would require the agreement of all other EU members to reduce it further. |  |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 15:51 - Nov 16 with 654 views | Catullus |
Isn't it 20% on businesses, don't domestic customers pay 5%? | |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 16:39 - Nov 16 with 638 views | A_Fans_Dad |
It won't be a problem when the Government has forced smart meters on everyone, they will just be able to read how much your EV Charger has used and add the 200% tax needed to that and leave the domestic electicity at 5%. | | | |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 17:13 - Nov 16 with 625 views | KeithHaynes |
Both sides of parliament have recommended the use of electric cars, now they say because of increased use of these cars they need to charge motorists to drive on the roads. Brilliant nonsense. |  |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 17:37 - Nov 16 with 608 views | NotLoyal |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 13:44 - Nov 16 by Ebo |
The claim: Vote Leave says the UK cannot lower VAT rates as long as it is in the European Union. Michael Gove said the 5% rate of VAT on household gas and electricity bills could not be scrapped because of EU rules.
Reality Check verdict: EU rules mean the UK cannot reduce VAT on goods and services below 15%, the standard rate of VAT in the EU. The standard rate of VAT in the UK is 20%, so the government could reduce it by up to 5% today if it wanted. Domestic fuel is on a special list of pre-approved goods and services that are subject to lower VAT rates and it would require the agreement of all other EU members to reduce it further. |
BTW if you don’t like it on here and insist on disrupting conversations why don’t you stay off here, this website has improved immensely, and any other website I read except scfc2 which is also carefully run seems to be no different to what this was before. Ok, kettle pot black in my case, but at least I’ve got the gonads to support the site owner and recognise what he is trying to achieve. So leave it out or move along. I know a Keith has asked you to quit abusing people, so why don’t you do so or try being an adult. |  |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 17:44 - Nov 16 with 598 views | onehunglow |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 17:37 - Nov 16 by NotLoyal |
BTW if you don’t like it on here and insist on disrupting conversations why don’t you stay off here, this website has improved immensely, and any other website I read except scfc2 which is also carefully run seems to be no different to what this was before. Ok, kettle pot black in my case, but at least I’ve got the gonads to support the site owner and recognise what he is trying to achieve. So leave it out or move along. I know a Keith has asked you to quit abusing people, so why don’t you do so or try being an adult. |
Great post .
It's nor easy for me to adapt to not winding up people for fun or to antagonise those I consider egotists. It was a dumb idea and I wasted too much time on PS.
This site,no matter what conversation Sumbler had with Keith is different as it endevours to stick to reasonable exchange of view.Not always ,true,but it is a world away from what this site used to be where wholescale abuse was not only allowed but encouraged by the mods .
It's taken years for us to realise this is futile .
Ebo's posts are pretty damning . | |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 17:48 - Nov 16 with 595 views | sP7qupUf |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 12:23 - Nov 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
Do you realise what the alternative is?
It will be to slap the current Fuel duty and VAT on Electricity.
Take your pick, because one way or the other they have to replace the £40Billion lost revenue some how. [Post edited 16 Nov 2020 16:32]
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Could start by making sure that all large companies pay the tax that they should. Also, close loopholes to tax avaoidance (note careful use of term!). Ree-Mogg's companies are a perfect example of this. | | | |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 21:35 - Nov 16 with 540 views | Highjack |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 17:37 - Nov 16 by NotLoyal |
BTW if you don’t like it on here and insist on disrupting conversations why don’t you stay off here, this website has improved immensely, and any other website I read except scfc2 which is also carefully run seems to be no different to what this was before. Ok, kettle pot black in my case, but at least I’ve got the gonads to support the site owner and recognise what he is trying to achieve. So leave it out or move along. I know a Keith has asked you to quit abusing people, so why don’t you do so or try being an adult. |
It shouldn’t be so difficult for him to put his point across in a civil manner, rather than just calling everyone an effing C all the time.
He’d be welcome with open arms along with everyone else. | |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 09:21 - Nov 17 with 496 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 13:44 - Nov 16 by Ebo |
The claim: Vote Leave says the UK cannot lower VAT rates as long as it is in the European Union. Michael Gove said the 5% rate of VAT on household gas and electricity bills could not be scrapped because of EU rules.
Reality Check verdict: EU rules mean the UK cannot reduce VAT on goods and services below 15%, the standard rate of VAT in the EU. The standard rate of VAT in the UK is 20%, so the government could reduce it by up to 5% today if it wanted. Domestic fuel is on a special list of pre-approved goods and services that are subject to lower VAT rates and it would require the agreement of all other EU members to reduce it further. |
Thanks for confirming that the 5% vat on domestic electricity and gas was imposed on the UK by the EU. | |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 10:14 - Nov 17 with 471 views | jack2jack |
well b****r me sideways, I refer the honourable gentleman, to the post I made re petrol/diesel thread. You just know what's going to happen, governments are soooo predictable, yet half the population cant see it. |  | | |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 11:27 - Nov 17 with 456 views | Catullus |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 10:14 - Nov 17 by jack2jack |
well b****r me sideways, I refer the honourable gentleman, to the post I made re petrol/diesel thread. You just know what's going to happen, governments are soooo predictable, yet half the population cant see it. |
I don't know that they can't see it; it's just that whoever we vote in, the government wins!
Whichever party is in power they nearly always do something they promised not to do. Conversely, they always say they can't do something they had promised to do.
Politicians have much in common whether they are red or blue or anywhere in between. | |
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| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 14:43 - Nov 17 with 443 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Plans to charge motorist per mile on 11:27 - Nov 17 by Catullus |
I don't know that they can't see it; it's just that whoever we vote in, the government wins!
Whichever party is in power they nearly always do something they promised not to do. Conversely, they always say they can't do something they had promised to do.
Politicians have much in common whether they are red or blue or anywhere in between. |
Which is why a certain non politician President who cannot be named is so popular with his people, because he has or has tried to do everything he said he would.
Which is very refreshing. | | | |
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