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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? 09:53 - Dec 13 with 29611 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The actions of Governments all over the world are shaped on the basis of the PCR COVID test results.
For months now there have been serious question marks over the accuracy of the tests.
Well now there is a definitive study on the original research and it's world wide adoption which is totally condemning.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/

This does not decry the deaths that occur with COVID-19, but there are also many questions over the counting of them as well.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 10:51 - Dec 13 with 4033 viewsCatullus

Drakeford was saying this morning that the PCR test is an effective and essential tool in th fight. Mind you hae was also saying mass testing is essential, I don't remember that always being the case?

Anyway, I heardba disturbing story yesterday, from my neighbour. Their daughters boyfriend lost his grandfather but not to covid. He was 93 and had Pneumonia and Sepsis. They took him into hospital then moved him to a covid ward. They allowed the family to visit, his wife also over 90, how stupid is that?

The last bit though, he didn't have covid but was on a covid ward and his death certificate reads cause of death as......yep....covid.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:12 - Dec 13 with 4006 viewscontroversial_jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 10:51 - Dec 13 by Catullus

Drakeford was saying this morning that the PCR test is an effective and essential tool in th fight. Mind you hae was also saying mass testing is essential, I don't remember that always being the case?

Anyway, I heardba disturbing story yesterday, from my neighbour. Their daughters boyfriend lost his grandfather but not to covid. He was 93 and had Pneumonia and Sepsis. They took him into hospital then moved him to a covid ward. They allowed the family to visit, his wife also over 90, how stupid is that?

The last bit though, he didn't have covid but was on a covid ward and his death certificate reads cause of death as......yep....covid.


Seems a bit iffy to me. Morriston , if that's where he Was, only allows visitors to the covid wards if they are dying and then they have to be donned in PPE.

He wouldn't have been on a covid ward unless he had tested positive, he would have been in a query section
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:40 - Dec 13 with 3996 viewsCatullus

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:12 - Dec 13 by controversial_jack

Seems a bit iffy to me. Morriston , if that's where he Was, only allows visitors to the covid wards if they are dying and then they have to be donned in PPE.

He wouldn't have been on a covid ward unless he had tested positive, he would have been in a query section


I have no reason to doubt my neghbours word. It was also said that several of the staff on the ward weren't wearing PPE.

I didn't ask which hospital it was, I should have!

Weall know what shouldn't happen but we also know our hospitals are full and one health board has stopped doing elective surgery because of the strain they are under.

With a lack of strong leadership and stupid people breaking rules, what can we really expect.

I don't think it's Morriston though, I'm told they have enough PPE and everyone wears it.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:49 - Dec 13 with 3990 viewsA_Fans_Dad

How could the WHO recommend a test based on an unreviewed Paper?
The old saying is "follow the money", how much money do you think the PCR Test Kits used all over the world are generating for the manufacturers?
That paper and other experts, including the guy that actually invented PCR tests have been saying for months now that the current PCR test is useless at what they are trying use it for.
It is now quite clear that Positive tests are not cases, they are only dodgy positive tests.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:54 - Dec 13 with 3987 viewsCatullus

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:49 - Dec 13 by A_Fans_Dad

How could the WHO recommend a test based on an unreviewed Paper?
The old saying is "follow the money", how much money do you think the PCR Test Kits used all over the world are generating for the manufacturers?
That paper and other experts, including the guy that actually invented PCR tests have been saying for months now that the current PCR test is useless at what they are trying use it for.
It is now quite clear that Positive tests are not cases, they are only dodgy positive tests.


I thought they were used to tell if you had anitbodies? I thought that's what Frakeford said this morning. maybe I needed to pay closer attention but 2 minutes of Drakers and I start to drift.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:05 - Dec 13 with 3976 viewscontroversial_jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:49 - Dec 13 by A_Fans_Dad

How could the WHO recommend a test based on an unreviewed Paper?
The old saying is "follow the money", how much money do you think the PCR Test Kits used all over the world are generating for the manufacturers?
That paper and other experts, including the guy that actually invented PCR tests have been saying for months now that the current PCR test is useless at what they are trying use it for.
It is now quite clear that Positive tests are not cases, they are only dodgy positive tests.


There's only a tiny amount of false positives as with any test , but also false negatives too
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:08 - Dec 13 with 3973 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:54 - Dec 13 by Catullus

I thought they were used to tell if you had anitbodies? I thought that's what Frakeford said this morning. maybe I needed to pay closer attention but 2 minutes of Drakers and I start to drift.


It is not so much what they look for as to how they do it. They made the test far too sensitive to the Virus particles.
So it appears to be picking up other coronaviruses or their particles.
That report was very condemning of the originators, the WHO and Merkel.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:19 - Dec 13 with 3966 viewsNeath_Jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:49 - Dec 13 by A_Fans_Dad

How could the WHO recommend a test based on an unreviewed Paper?
The old saying is "follow the money", how much money do you think the PCR Test Kits used all over the world are generating for the manufacturers?
That paper and other experts, including the guy that actually invented PCR tests have been saying for months now that the current PCR test is useless at what they are trying use it for.
It is now quite clear that Positive tests are not cases, they are only dodgy positive tests.


I know I'll regret engaging with you but...

Would you care to explain, that all the positive cases we have had within our company have all resulted in the positive persons all being ill in exactly the same way. The biggest symptom they have all had, and for weeks afterwards, is that they were, and in some cases still are, absolutely exhausted.

Surely if it's as you are claiming, they would be saying "nothing wrong with me, haven't felt ill at all".

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:22 - Dec 13 with 3956 viewsNeath_Jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:12 - Dec 13 by controversial_jack

Seems a bit iffy to me. Morriston , if that's where he Was, only allows visitors to the covid wards if they are dying and then they have to be donned in PPE.

He wouldn't have been on a covid ward unless he had tested positive, he would have been in a query section


A senior person who i work with, his father in law got placed onto a covid ward by mistake, after he had tested negative for the virus. He got released from hospital and promptly tested positive within two days. He is a gentleman in his 80's who has thankfully only suffered minor symptoms. That was in Morriston hospital.

The chap who works for us also tested positive for the virus, after caring for his father in law on his release from hospital.

Mistakes do, and are happening unfortunately.

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:23 - Dec 13 with 3956 viewsBillyChong

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:19 - Dec 13 by Neath_Jack

I know I'll regret engaging with you but...

Would you care to explain, that all the positive cases we have had within our company have all resulted in the positive persons all being ill in exactly the same way. The biggest symptom they have all had, and for weeks afterwards, is that they were, and in some cases still are, absolutely exhausted.

Surely if it's as you are claiming, they would be saying "nothing wrong with me, haven't felt ill at all".


Exactly
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:35 - Dec 13 with 3941 viewscontroversial_jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:22 - Dec 13 by Neath_Jack

A senior person who i work with, his father in law got placed onto a covid ward by mistake, after he had tested negative for the virus. He got released from hospital and promptly tested positive within two days. He is a gentleman in his 80's who has thankfully only suffered minor symptoms. That was in Morriston hospital.

The chap who works for us also tested positive for the virus, after caring for his father in law on his release from hospital.

Mistakes do, and are happening unfortunately.


Yes of course mistakes do happen. The procedure is, or should be to get tested on admission, then put to a query section while awaiting result
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:41 - Dec 13 with 3934 viewsAndy1300

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:08 - Dec 13 by A_Fans_Dad

It is not so much what they look for as to how they do it. They made the test far too sensitive to the Virus particles.
So it appears to be picking up other coronaviruses or their particles.
That report was very condemning of the originators, the WHO and Merkel.


Correct, they do too many cycles.
They often pick up dead matter and state the person has tested positive.
Belgium, I think, have reduced the number of cycles for this very reason, the inventor of the test also stated that they’d should not be used for covid testing.

It’s baffling why the world’s governments are using an unreliable test to restrict everyone.

It’s all wrong!

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:51 - Dec 13 with 3926 viewsAndy1300

https://summit.news/2020/11/18

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:57 - Dec 13 with 3914 viewsNeath_Jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:51 - Dec 13 by Andy1300

https://summit.news/2020/11/18


https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 13:12 - Dec 13 with 3888 viewsHighjack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 11:54 - Dec 13 by Catullus

I thought they were used to tell if you had anitbodies? I thought that's what Frakeford said this morning. maybe I needed to pay closer attention but 2 minutes of Drakers and I start to drift.


I'm seriously impressed you can get to two minutes.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 13:55 - Dec 13 with 3878 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 12:19 - Dec 13 by Neath_Jack

I know I'll regret engaging with you but...

Would you care to explain, that all the positive cases we have had within our company have all resulted in the positive persons all being ill in exactly the same way. The biggest symptom they have all had, and for weeks afterwards, is that they were, and in some cases still are, absolutely exhausted.

Surely if it's as you are claiming, they would be saying "nothing wrong with me, haven't felt ill at all".


Then they were very lucky that they were tested and the tests worked properly.
Would you care to explain why there are thousands tested positive every day and only a few hundred end up getting symptoms.
You do understand that I am the messenger, I am not the one saying it is too sensitive, it is doctors and viroligists etc.
Why don't you read the damned paper at the linkI posted instead of asking me stupid questions?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:02 - Dec 13 with 3872 viewsbuilthjack

I saw Raab to on the Andrew Marr show. He didn't answer a single question, he twisted everything's.
Whatever anyone says about Drakeford, he does answer questions, whether you like the answer or not.

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:21 - Dec 13 with 3842 viewsHighjack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:02 - Dec 13 by builthjack

I saw Raab to on the Andrew Marr show. He didn't answer a single question, he twisted everything's.
Whatever anyone says about Drakeford, he does answer questions, whether you like the answer or not.


Yes and sends everyone into an immediate state of stupefaction.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:24 - Dec 13 with 3841 viewsHighjack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 13:55 - Dec 13 by A_Fans_Dad

Then they were very lucky that they were tested and the tests worked properly.
Would you care to explain why there are thousands tested positive every day and only a few hundred end up getting symptoms.
You do understand that I am the messenger, I am not the one saying it is too sensitive, it is doctors and viroligists etc.
Why don't you read the damned paper at the linkI posted instead of asking me stupid questions?


Some people may have lower doses of the virus or/and have very fast acting immune systems that suppress the virus quicker than others meaning that they may still test positive but remain without symptoms.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:40 - Dec 13 with 3845 viewsCatullus

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:02 - Dec 13 by builthjack

I saw Raab to on the Andrew Marr show. He didn't answer a single question, he twisted everything's.
Whatever anyone says about Drakeford, he does answer questions, whether you like the answer or not.


I don't see giving a bad or wrong answer as any better than twisting things. Drakeford insiste they have followd the science well lets see if he can still say that after this,

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/

Or will he say that sticking to his word is more important than peoples lives?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:50 - Dec 13 with 3836 viewsAndy1300

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:40 - Dec 13 by Catullus

I don't see giving a bad or wrong answer as any better than twisting things. Drakeford insiste they have followd the science well lets see if he can still say that after this,

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/

Or will he say that sticking to his word is more important than peoples lives?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:53 - Dec 13 with 3832 viewsJack123

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:40 - Dec 13 by Catullus

I don't see giving a bad or wrong answer as any better than twisting things. Drakeford insiste they have followd the science well lets see if he can still say that after this,

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/

Or will he say that sticking to his word is more important than peoples lives?


That SAGE have a lot to answer for..

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:53 - Dec 13 with 3831 viewsCatullus

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:50 - Dec 13 by Andy1300

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-


That's something else I thought Drakeford had changed his tune over. I thought he'd been saying this way back when and it was only recently he thought mass testing was good?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:57 - Dec 13 with 3823 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:24 - Dec 13 by Highjack

Some people may have lower doses of the virus or/and have very fast acting immune systems that suppress the virus quicker than others meaning that they may still test positive but remain without symptoms.


It could be, then Elon Musk can't have tested positive twice and negative twice on the same day could he?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:58 - Dec 13 with 3821 viewsAndy1300

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:53 - Dec 13 by Jack123

That SAGE have a lot to answer for..


It# all “ could be” with that lot.

Their predictions are pathetic yet the country is under massive restrictions because of them!

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