| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers 10:07 - Jun 17 with 2948 views | RonaldStump |
So the government have chucked this out there to see what the response is.
They know it's not lawful so it's hard to see this one coming to fruition.
I'm sure there are plenty on here who are all for it no matter what how dangerous a path it takes us, just to get one over the vaccine hesitant, anti vax etc
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:28 - Jun 17 with 1161 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
People should have the right to choose what goes into their bodies. |  |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:36 - Jun 17 with 1146 views | Gwyn737 |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:28 - Jun 17 by JACKMANANDBOY |
People should have the right to choose what goes into their bodies. |
And people should have the right to choose care home that are as safe as possible. | | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:37 - Jun 17 with 1149 views | RonaldStump |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:28 - Jun 17 by JACKMANANDBOY |
People should have the right to choose what goes into their bodies. |
Absolutely agree mate. Never did I think I'd see the day where parts of society has become so abhorrent towards people that have exercised their right to say yes or in this case no. Can you imagine you'd been in a coma or hidden away on a deserted foreign island for 2 years. You'd think you'd just woken up in a field in Brecon in the middle of mushroom season. | |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:38 - Jun 17 with 1145 views | RonaldStump |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:36 - Jun 17 by Gwyn737 |
And people should have the right to choose care home that are as safe as possible. |
Nobody disagrees with that. At all | |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:54 - Jun 17 with 1131 views | Whiterockin |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:36 - Jun 17 by Gwyn737 |
And people should have the right to choose care home that are as safe as possible. |
And as soon as this starts to happen companies who do not have all staff vaccinated will go out of business. Everyone has a choice as to vaccinate or not as they have a choice who to employ. Someone who will bankrupt a company or not. |  | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 10:59 - Jun 17 with 1122 views | Jack123 |
Not going to happen, if I was a care worker and they implemented that, I would let them sack me and the take them for unlawful/constructive dismissal , but if I took it under duress and it was policy , if I had any side effects I would be looking to take them to court for damages, where there is blame, there is a claim!! |  |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 11:18 - Jun 17 with 1093 views | A_Fans_Dad |
What a complete role reversal.
Fit, Healthy people, some who may already have had COVID and developed immunity treated as Lepers used to be treated.
Fit Healthy people isolated instead of the sick, who are put in ordinary hospitals.
The Medical and industrial world has been turned upside down. | | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 11:53 - Jun 17 with 1063 views | onehunglow |
That we are even debating this says it all.
It's only when disaster strikes personally that people get real .
We sit back comfortable in our own little world.
Everyone has the right to a life without it being ended by somebody feeling their freedom is affected.
People refusing vaxes will put alcohol,dope ,tobacco, and an excess of sugar and fat into their bodies without a second thought | |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 12:43 - Jun 17 with 1041 views | controversial_jack |
The primary responsibility of care homes is to keep the patients safe. If care workers don't want the jab then they are failing in their duty of care and should be sacked. | | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:00 - Jun 17 with 1035 views | Professor |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 12:43 - Jun 17 by controversial_jack |
The primary responsibility of care homes is to keep the patients safe. If care workers don't want the jab then they are failing in their duty of care and should be sacked. |
Plenty of jobs where OH will require vaccinations or proven immunity. I am required to have updated tetanus and hepatitis B. My daughter entering her nursing degree in September has a list. | | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:06 - Jun 17 with 1029 views | RonaldStump |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 12:43 - Jun 17 by controversial_jack |
The primary responsibility of care homes is to keep the patients safe. If care workers don't want the jab then they are failing in their duty of care and should be sacked. |
Unlawful and they can't do that. If it was it would have been done by now | |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:08 - Jun 17 with 1023 views | RonaldStump |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:00 - Jun 17 by Professor |
Plenty of jobs where OH will require vaccinations or proven immunity. I am required to have updated tetanus and hepatitis B. My daughter entering her nursing degree in September has a list. |
If you're entering a contract yes, going forward they will more than likely be requirements. You can't just sack people if they choose not to be vaccinated, it's unlawful | |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:11 - Jun 17 with 1018 views | builthjack |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:11 - Jun 17 with 1017 views | builthjack |
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:12 - Jun 17 with 1018 views | Professor |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:08 - Jun 17 by RonaldStump |
If you're entering a contract yes, going forward they will more than likely be requirements. You can't just sack people if they choose not to be vaccinated, it's unlawful |
You can remove them from contact as a public health risk or risk to themselves. Given the nature of the job it's likely there would be resultant issues around capability in the longer term. Care homes are not run by nice fluffy people after all. | | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:31 - Jun 17 with 1009 views | onehunglow |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:12 - Jun 17 by Professor |
You can remove them from contact as a public health risk or risk to themselves. Given the nature of the job it's likely there would be resultant issues around capability in the longer term. Care homes are not run by nice fluffy people after all. |
So some have no problems with old and frail people being subjected to possible virus from staff who might well have the virus.
Old people eh.They really do not matter,so they.? | |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:34 - Jun 17 with 1008 views | RonaldStump |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:12 - Jun 17 by Professor |
You can remove them from contact as a public health risk or risk to themselves. Given the nature of the job it's likely there would be resultant issues around capability in the longer term. Care homes are not run by nice fluffy people after all. |
any attempt by an employer to change the terms and conditions of an existing employment contract unilaterally would almost certainly be a fundamental breach of contract. This would allow the employees to bring a claim for constructive unfair dismissal, in which they would be arguing that they effectively had no choice but to leave their job | |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:45 - Jun 17 with 994 views | RonaldStump |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 11:53 - Jun 17 by onehunglow |
That we are even debating this says it all.
It's only when disaster strikes personally that people get real .
We sit back comfortable in our own little world.
Everyone has the right to a life without it being ended by somebody feeling their freedom is affected.
People refusing vaxes will put alcohol,dope ,tobacco, and an excess of sugar and fat into their bodies without a second thought |
Maybe we should follow India's lead
make all the unjabbed wear paper skull and cross bones to warn others.
They can also deny the unvaccinated food and school entry.
Would this make you happy? | |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 14:11 - Jun 17 with 982 views | RonaldStump |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 12:43 - Jun 17 by controversial_jack |
The primary responsibility of care homes is to keep the patients safe. If care workers don't want the jab then they are failing in their duty of care and should be sacked. |
So were they failing in their duty of care when there was no jab available? | |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 14:25 - Jun 17 with 973 views | controversial_jack |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 14:11 - Jun 17 by RonaldStump |
So were they failing in their duty of care when there was no jab available? |
No, but there is one available now | | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 15:04 - Jun 17 with 950 views | Whiterockin |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:34 - Jun 17 by RonaldStump |
any attempt by an employer to change the terms and conditions of an existing employment contract unilaterally would almost certainly be a fundamental breach of contract. This would allow the employees to bring a claim for constructive unfair dismissal, in which they would be arguing that they effectively had no choice but to leave their job |
Even if said company was following government legislation and complying with the law. | | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 15:26 - Jun 17 with 932 views | controversial_jack |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 13:34 - Jun 17 by RonaldStump |
any attempt by an employer to change the terms and conditions of an existing employment contract unilaterally would almost certainly be a fundamental breach of contract. This would allow the employees to bring a claim for constructive unfair dismissal, in which they would be arguing that they effectively had no choice but to leave their job |
Not if changes were agreed by the care workers union, whoever that may be | | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 15:26 - Jun 17 with 932 views | Boundy |
Far from being antivax as I've had my two but where exactly are we heading into as a society Care homes yes by definition have the weak and vulnerable within them but there are a myriad of other nasties out there which are more that capable of killing the elderly .
We seem to be accepting of everything we're being told by Government , two jabs , now it could be three and with no guarantee that's going to be sufficient. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 16:27 - Jun 17 with 907 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 15:26 - Jun 17 by Boundy |
Far from being antivax as I've had my two but where exactly are we heading into as a society Care homes yes by definition have the weak and vulnerable within them but there are a myriad of other nasties out there which are more that capable of killing the elderly .
We seem to be accepting of everything we're being told by Government , two jabs , now it could be three and with no guarantee that's going to be sufficient. |
What are we going to need for the new "Moscow" strain I wonder? | | | |
| Mandatory Vaccinations for care workers on 16:42 - Jun 17 with 900 views | angryjack |
I thought all the old f@ckers in care homes have had their two vaccinations which the government is telling us should keep them safe so what's the problem,,government lying again | | | |
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