| 23,000 majority gone. on 07:15 - Dec 17 with 1363 views | majorraglan | I agree, he’s going to be under huge pressure now, he’s been severely damaged by this result and I suspect we may see a few more stories emerging now which will really hammer the nails in to his coffin. I think we’ve seen tactical voting here with the votes from the left and right going to the middle ground candidate who in reality was the only one who could defeat the Conservatives. The red wall Conservative MP’s and those in marginal constituencies will be very worried. |  | |  |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 07:20 - Dec 17 with 1352 views | ItchySphincter | The Bodger fanbois on here will have no answer. Trouble is that the Tory’s will see him off before the public gets the chance and we’ll just get another self-serving a***hole in charge. Taken this country back decades. Anyone who voted for them in the first place should hang their heads in shame. Whoop! |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 08:12 - Dec 17 with 1310 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 07:20 - Dec 17 by ItchySphincter | The Bodger fanbois on here will have no answer. Trouble is that the Tory’s will see him off before the public gets the chance and we’ll just get another self-serving a***hole in charge. Taken this country back decades. Anyone who voted for them in the first place should hang their heads in shame. Whoop! |
Its good to know that widespread corruption, breaking covid laws, nobbling the police, nobbling the bbc, nobbling the msm, lying about Brexit, mismanaging the pandemic, fighting judges, threatening the peace in the north of Ireland, undermining the devolved governments, banning voters with no id, and introducing draconian policing laws does have consequences. Well done the voters. JohnsonOut. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 08:23 - Dec 17 with 1306 views | felixstowe_jack | Quite amazing that during a national pandemic labour under Starmer could only manage just over 3000 votes. Clearly voters do not think either the Conservatives or Labour are fit to run the Country. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 09:11 - Dec 17 with 1283 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar | One could argue the Conservatives have just been awarded a mandate to force Johnson out. Combined with seeing much of the vote fail to swing to Labour, this wasn't the complete disaster it should have been. Sir Keir must he as disappointed as Boris this morning. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 09:19 - Dec 17 with 1279 views | felixstowe_jack |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 09:11 - Dec 17 by DwightYorkeSuperstar | One could argue the Conservatives have just been awarded a mandate to force Johnson out. Combined with seeing much of the vote fail to swing to Labour, this wasn't the complete disaster it should have been. Sir Keir must he as disappointed as Boris this morning. |
The liberals often pick up seats in mid term by-elections they always have . Each time the promise a watershed in British politics but come the next General election voters get serious and don't waste their votes. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 09:27 - Dec 17 with 1271 views | max936 |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 08:23 - Dec 17 by felixstowe_jack | Quite amazing that during a national pandemic labour under Starmer could only manage just over 3000 votes. Clearly voters do not think either the Conservatives or Labour are fit to run the Country. |
"Clearly voters do not think either the Conservatives or Labour are fit to run the Country." And they'd be absolutely correct, they're not fit to run a bath let alone the Country, Starmer is the biggest damp squib I've ever seen, I wouldn't want him representing me in any court. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 09:35 - Dec 17 with 1265 views | ItchySphincter |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 08:23 - Dec 17 by felixstowe_jack | Quite amazing that during a national pandemic labour under Starmer could only manage just over 3000 votes. Clearly voters do not think either the Conservatives or Labour are fit to run the Country. |
What have I told you about doing sums? 😂😂 |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:21 - Dec 17 with 1234 views | Catullus |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 09:11 - Dec 17 by DwightYorkeSuperstar | One could argue the Conservatives have just been awarded a mandate to force Johnson out. Combined with seeing much of the vote fail to swing to Labour, this wasn't the complete disaster it should have been. Sir Keir must he as disappointed as Boris this morning. |
Probably even more disappointed as Bojo must have expected this but Starmer must have been hoping for a big increase in vote share. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:24 - Dec 17 with 1226 views | onehunglow | We have free elections and nobody hould feel ashamed of whomsoever they voted for. To demonise decent people who voted Conservative is imply sickening in a free society. Labour government have taken us into wars that were avoidable and saw millions killed but I wouldnt think those that did would NOT vote Labour again. In this case Conservative voters are sending a message to the most craven PM Ive seen in my lifetime,a man who wont enforce the law of the land, a man who will not enforce life saving measure to fight covid. You can forget the usual lifelong labour warlocks drivel as right now,we have nobody who can seemingly lead us . We are an hour away from North Shropshire-a lovely constituency,and a land of farms and small towns that do not get the working class crap talk that befalls many. Forget the fact its a by election-it is a huge result. Bugger off Boris and do it today. Crawl away and change some nappies |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:33 - Dec 17 with 1228 views | Sirjohnalot |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 08:23 - Dec 17 by felixstowe_jack | Quite amazing that during a national pandemic labour under Starmer could only manage just over 3000 votes. Clearly voters do not think either the Conservatives or Labour are fit to run the Country. |
Well that’s not correct is it ? Had Labour voters voted Labour, the Tories would’ve won. I vote LD in y area as Labour can’t win, the only way of defeating the Tory mp (who’s actually very decent and a rebel) is voting tactically which is what happened here |  | |  |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:37 - Dec 17 with 1218 views | controversial_jack | Lifelong Tory voters are not going to turn polar opposite and vote labour, they will take one step at a time |  | |  |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:39 - Dec 17 with 1212 views | onehunglow |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:33 - Dec 17 by Sirjohnalot | Well that’s not correct is it ? Had Labour voters voted Labour, the Tories would’ve won. I vote LD in y area as Labour can’t win, the only way of defeating the Tory mp (who’s actually very decent and a rebel) is voting tactically which is what happened here |
We have little choice right now jon. What we could have and indeed should is a change of leader and I d be content with Surak ,frankly. Im not a class person so have no Labour/Tory love hate that affects so many. I keep my vote provate ,always have ,always will. Our Constituency was solid Tory before Ange Eagle took out Lynda Chalker who my wife knew quite well-nice woman (Chalker). We are across the road from the next constituency which is a marginal but formally another solid Conservative seat .Boris is screwing them up clearly. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:48 - Dec 17 with 1215 views | Sirjohnalot |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:39 - Dec 17 by onehunglow | We have little choice right now jon. What we could have and indeed should is a change of leader and I d be content with Surak ,frankly. Im not a class person so have no Labour/Tory love hate that affects so many. I keep my vote provate ,always have ,always will. Our Constituency was solid Tory before Ange Eagle took out Lynda Chalker who my wife knew quite well-nice woman (Chalker). We are across the road from the next constituency which is a marginal but formally another solid Conservative seat .Boris is screwing them up clearly. |
Sunak is very capable and comes across like a proper leader, but can’t see the Tory heartland and Brexit voters going for an Asian PM. Truss has support for some reason |  | |  |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:51 - Dec 17 with 1207 views | onehunglow |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:48 - Dec 17 by Sirjohnalot | Sunak is very capable and comes across like a proper leader, but can’t see the Tory heartland and Brexit voters going for an Asian PM. Truss has support for some reason |
I like the look of Liz but not only out of lust. I will have a look at your reply on our justice system later when I have finish my music time.I am trying to write a song. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 11:02 - Dec 17 with 1207 views | Catullus |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:37 - Dec 17 by controversial_jack | Lifelong Tory voters are not going to turn polar opposite and vote labour, they will take one step at a time |
Lifelong Labour voters turned Tory at the last GE, there was no "one step" they just turned the red wall blue. There are a lot of people who can and have voted either way, I'm one. They call us floating voters. I don't like surveys but in 2015 one showed that up to 50% of people certain to vote were floating voters. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 11:04 - Dec 17 with 1202 views | Sirjohnalot |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:51 - Dec 17 by onehunglow | I like the look of Liz but not only out of lust. I will have a look at your reply on our justice system later when I have finish my music time.I am trying to write a song. |
I’m done for Christmas got a lot of trials in new year to March but need a break. I’m exhausted [Post edited 17 Dec 2021 15:45]
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 11:06 - Dec 17 with 1195 views | onehunglow |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 11:02 - Dec 17 by Catullus | Lifelong Labour voters turned Tory at the last GE, there was no "one step" they just turned the red wall blue. There are a lot of people who can and have voted either way, I'm one. They call us floating voters. I don't like surveys but in 2015 one showed that up to 50% of people certain to vote were floating voters. |
Im a floater. Why stick to one party because of the way you were brain washed as a kid. Vote as you feel for the good of the country a a whole. Ive not felt aligned to one party my whole voting life -which is now 50 years. We need a wholescale sea change in attitude and constitution. No chance for me really. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 13:22 - Dec 17 with 1145 views | ItchySphincter |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:24 - Dec 17 by onehunglow | We have free elections and nobody hould feel ashamed of whomsoever they voted for. To demonise decent people who voted Conservative is imply sickening in a free society. Labour government have taken us into wars that were avoidable and saw millions killed but I wouldnt think those that did would NOT vote Labour again. In this case Conservative voters are sending a message to the most craven PM Ive seen in my lifetime,a man who wont enforce the law of the land, a man who will not enforce life saving measure to fight covid. You can forget the usual lifelong labour warlocks drivel as right now,we have nobody who can seemingly lead us . We are an hour away from North Shropshire-a lovely constituency,and a land of farms and small towns that do not get the working class crap talk that befalls many. Forget the fact its a by election-it is a huge result. Bugger off Boris and do it today. Crawl away and change some nappies |
It’s perfectly okay to feel shame for making bad decisions. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 13:26 - Dec 17 with 1140 views | Catullus |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 13:22 - Dec 17 by ItchySphincter | It’s perfectly okay to feel shame for making bad decisions. |
Yeah but, just because someone else tells you your decision was bad, it don't make it so. Sometimes we can make a bad decision because the other decision would be worse! |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 14:09 - Dec 17 with 1120 views | onehunglow |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 13:22 - Dec 17 by ItchySphincter | It’s perfectly okay to feel shame for making bad decisions. |
You've made a few then? Dont fret |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 16:24 - Dec 17 with 1048 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 10:48 - Dec 17 by Sirjohnalot | Sunak is very capable and comes across like a proper leader, but can’t see the Tory heartland and Brexit voters going for an Asian PM. Truss has support for some reason |
Not so sure …. |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 16:29 - Dec 17 with 1040 views | onehunglow |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 16:24 - Dec 17 by Kilkennyjack | Not so sure …. |
We need a hard line leader . Matters not whether Labour or Tory. Right now ,this country has no leader at all I do not want a niece guy particularly certainly not a populists like Bojo. We need to be led and that means taking unpopular decisions. I see no leader anywhere |  |
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| 23,000 majority gone. on 16:32 - Dec 17 with 1045 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes | It’ll be Gove. No doubt. He’s gone quiet recently as he always does when he’s on manoeuvres. |  | |  |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 16:35 - Dec 17 with 1042 views | CountyJim |
| 23,000 majority gone. on 08:23 - Dec 17 by felixstowe_jack | Quite amazing that during a national pandemic labour under Starmer could only manage just over 3000 votes. Clearly voters do not think either the Conservatives or Labour are fit to run the Country. |
Labour voters voted lib Dems they never had a strong hold in that area |  | |  |
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