| Britain is overreacting to Omicron 19:25 - Dec 15 with 10634 views | 73__73 |
DR Angelique Coetzee. No doubt the vaccination and lockdown zealots will call her a nutter etc. |  |
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 19:30 - Dec 15 with 2778 views | GoldenBear |
Even that Whittey fella doesn't know yet. |  | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 19:38 - Dec 15 with 2767 views | Scotia |
I don't think she's a nutter, she's just being premature.
South Africa recorded their highest ever number of cases today too.
I hope she's right that we're overreacting, it'll be too late if we don't. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 19:47 - Dec 15 with 2762 views | 73__73 |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 19:38 - Dec 15 by Scotia |
I don't think she's a nutter, she's just being premature.
South Africa recorded their highest ever number of cases today too.
I hope she's right that we're overreacting, it'll be too late if we don't. |
Premature 😂 I’ll bet she’s correct and she knows more about the effects of omicron than possibly anyone else | |
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 19:51 - Dec 15 with 2760 views | Catullus |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 19:47 - Dec 15 by 73__73 |
Premature 😂 I’ll bet she’s correct and she knows more about the effects of omicron than possibly anyone else |
She might be right but SA has a much lower average age. We don't know how it will hit our older and sicker population yet.
So yes, we could be overreacting but maybe better that than no reaction at all and bodies piling up. | |
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 20:13 - Dec 15 with 2728 views | Scotia |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 19:47 - Dec 15 by 73__73 |
Premature 😂 I’ll bet she’s correct and she knows more about the effects of omicron than possibly anyone else |
Well she's not a virologist, she's a private GP.
The variant has only been identified for 3 weeks in a relatively young population where about 80% have already been infected. It usually takes 10 days to end up in hospital.
I think its apparent mildness is down to age and prior infection. We'll see. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 11:07 - Dec 16 with 2610 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Can you explain why Whitty and the government are lying to us.
Massive headlines that we have the highest number of cases ever.
Whitty shows the rise in cases on his graph during their presentation.
He just forgot to mention that it is the result of more tests and not higher case rates.
The Tests/Case has remained approximately the same for a month.
Not only that but it is about 30% lower than it was mid September.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FG
This is how overwhelmed the hospitals are with COVID cases.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FG
Some people know how to look at data and some know how to manipulate it to scare the public. [Post edited 16 Dec 2021 11:09]
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 11:48 - Dec 16 with 2572 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 11:07 - Dec 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
Can you explain why Whitty and the government are lying to us.
Massive headlines that we have the highest number of cases ever.
Whitty shows the rise in cases on his graph during their presentation.
He just forgot to mention that it is the result of more tests and not higher case rates.
The Tests/Case has remained approximately the same for a month.
Not only that but it is about 30% lower than it was mid September.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FG
This is how overwhelmed the hospitals are with COVID cases.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FG
Some people know how to look at data and some know how to manipulate it to scare the public. [Post edited 16 Dec 2021 11:09]
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So nearly 8000 beds occupied by covoid patients half of which are unvaccinated. Most could have been prevented.
From your graphs more people are showing symptoms so clearly more getting tested.
From the 30th of November everyone entering the UK has had to take a 2 day PCR test. That equates to a daily testing increase of over 250,000 a day and none of the people taking the tests had any symptoms. If you exclude these test the number of tests has not increased but the number of positive tests has increased by 50%. [Post edited 16 Dec 2021 12:16]
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 12:38 - Dec 16 with 2534 views | Scotia |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 11:07 - Dec 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
Can you explain why Whitty and the government are lying to us.
Massive headlines that we have the highest number of cases ever.
Whitty shows the rise in cases on his graph during their presentation.
He just forgot to mention that it is the result of more tests and not higher case rates.
The Tests/Case has remained approximately the same for a month.
Not only that but it is about 30% lower than it was mid September.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FG
This is how overwhelmed the hospitals are with COVID cases.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FG
Some people know how to look at data and some know how to manipulate it to scare the public. [Post edited 16 Dec 2021 11:09]
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There is a slight problem with those graphs.
They only list the tests to December 14th but cases to the 15th on which there was a dramatic increase and records broken. Cases increased by about 45% in one day, were about 650,000 more tests undertaken yesterday? As that would need to be the case for the positivity proportion to remain similar. | | | |
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 12:51 - Dec 16 with 2504 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 12:38 - Dec 16 by Scotia |
There is a slight problem with those graphs.
They only list the tests to December 14th but cases to the 15th on which there was a dramatic increase and records broken. Cases increased by about 45% in one day, were about 650,000 more tests undertaken yesterday? As that would need to be the case for the positivity proportion to remain similar. |
You are prepared to argue about 1 day.
Jesus you are desperate.
Whitty didn't say that his chart increase was due to more testing did he? and that all the increases were based on one day. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 12:57 - Dec 16 with 2489 views | Scotia |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 12:51 - Dec 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
You are prepared to argue about 1 day.
Jesus you are desperate.
Whitty didn't say that his chart increase was due to more testing did he? and that all the increases were based on one day. |
Well that day is quite important seeing as nearly 80000 cases were recorded. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 14:18 - Dec 16 with 2444 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 12:57 - Dec 16 by Scotia |
Well that day is quite important seeing as nearly 80000 cases were recorded. |
80,000 is not what those charts show or the charts in todays DM, so where did you get 80,000 from? | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 14:24 - Dec 16 with 2426 views | Professor |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 14:18 - Dec 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
80,000 is not what those charts show or the charts in todays DM, so where did you get 80,000 from? |
Probably the 77, 741 new cases announced yesterday.
We may hit 100,000 by Friday when omicron becomes dominant. Maybe even 200,000 per day at peak. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 14:28 - Dec 16 with 2428 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 14:18 - Dec 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
80,000 is not what those charts show or the charts in todays DM, so where did you get 80,000 from? |
"Two things are infinite, the universe and the human stupidity of the antivaxers. I'm not sure about the universe."
Ablert Einstein. | |
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 14:54 - Dec 16 with 2402 views | Professor |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 14:28 - Dec 16 by felixstowe_jack |
"Two things are infinite, the universe and the human stupidity of the antivaxers. I'm not sure about the universe."
Ablert Einstein. |
I really hope the levels are nowhere near what most of us are expecting. If the R0 is up around 5, we are in for a rough few months.
It's completely stupid to say there are only 7000 cases in hospital. All the evidence suggest omicron may be less virulent, but if half as virulent as Delta, that would be around a doubling in hospitalisations and deaths in the coming weeks and months. A small part of a very big number is still a big number. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 16:38 - Dec 16 with 2363 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 14:24 - Dec 16 by Professor |
Probably the 77, 741 new cases announced yesterday.
We may hit 100,000 by Friday when omicron becomes dominant. Maybe even 200,000 per day at peak. |
According to the Gov.uk site here
https://coronavirus.data.gov.u
and here for cases
https://www.worldometers.info/
Well there was a 23.9% increase in tests from the 14th of December to the 15th.
There was a 32.5% increase in cases from the 14th of December to the 15th.
So in effect an 8.6% increase in cases.
Or to look at it as that chart I posted did the tests per case has gone from 20.8/case to 22.3/case an increase of 6.9%
So as that guy said most of the change comes from more testing not more infections.
Or how to make it look more scary than it actually is. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 16:55 - Dec 16 with 2347 views | Professor |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 16:38 - Dec 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
According to the Gov.uk site here
https://coronavirus.data.gov.u
and here for cases
https://www.worldometers.info/
Well there was a 23.9% increase in tests from the 14th of December to the 15th.
There was a 32.5% increase in cases from the 14th of December to the 15th.
So in effect an 8.6% increase in cases.
Or to look at it as that chart I posted did the tests per case has gone from 20.8/case to 22.3/case an increase of 6.9%
So as that guy said most of the change comes from more testing not more infections.
Or how to make it look more scary than it actually is. |
You absolute plum. People are worried because we are likely to reach a point with millions of active cases. Even if being reported as mild, this is likely to be a consequence of high levels of immunity. If you are susceptible then good luck. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 17:07 - Dec 16 with 2337 views | Professor |
I have thought about this.
Given we are just shy of 90,000 cases reported today and i fully expect the 100,000 figure tomorrow, your carping about figures, belittling of people working hard -only 7000 hospitalised blah blah
I can only conclude you really have a problem with reality or you are
Just evil and twisted | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 17:07 - Dec 16 with 2340 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 16:38 - Dec 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
According to the Gov.uk site here
https://coronavirus.data.gov.u
and here for cases
https://www.worldometers.info/
Well there was a 23.9% increase in tests from the 14th of December to the 15th.
There was a 32.5% increase in cases from the 14th of December to the 15th.
So in effect an 8.6% increase in cases.
Or to look at it as that chart I posted did the tests per case has gone from 20.8/case to 22.3/case an increase of 6.9%
So as that guy said most of the change comes from more testing not more infections.
Or how to make it look more scary than it actually is. |
Increase in cases last 2 days 50%
Increase in testing last 2 days 25% | |
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 17:25 - Dec 16 with 2324 views | Gwyn737 |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 17:07 - Dec 16 by Professor |
I have thought about this.
Given we are just shy of 90,000 cases reported today and i fully expect the 100,000 figure tomorrow, your carping about figures, belittling of people working hard -only 7000 hospitalised blah blah
I can only conclude you really have a problem with reality or you are
Just evil and twisted |
AFD loves a conspiracy theory.
I bet he thinks the push for eating 5 fruit and veg a day is a ploy by Big Farmer. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 17:31 - Dec 16 with 2312 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 19:30 - Dec 15 by GoldenBear |
Even that Whittey fella doesn't know yet. |
I see a politician was forced into apologising today for criticising Whitty. Labour has demanded she be sacked. Now I know he’s under a load of pressure and he’s doing his best under difficult circumstances but are we saying we aren’t allowed to criticise now? | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 17:35 - Dec 16 with 2307 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 17:31 - Dec 16 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
I see a politician was forced into apologising today for criticising Whitty. Labour has demanded she be sacked. Now I know he’s under a load of pressure and he’s doing his best under difficult circumstances but are we saying we aren’t allowed to criticise now? |
In the new woke world no one can criticise anyone. This does not apply to Angela Rainer of course. | |
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 18:55 - Dec 16 with 2270 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 17:07 - Dec 16 by Professor |
I have thought about this.
Given we are just shy of 90,000 cases reported today and i fully expect the 100,000 figure tomorrow, your carping about figures, belittling of people working hard -only 7000 hospitalised blah blah
I can only conclude you really have a problem with reality or you are
Just evil and twisted |
No, I have a problem with Government experts scaring the shit out of people over new cases when most of those new cases were due to new tests.
They then use that data to shut down the country, when the only country in the world with an Omicron death is in the UK and it appears that person did not go in to hospital with COVID, they just tested positive when in hospital.
The 7000 in hospital is not my data, it is official NHS data.
Since July 1st up till Dec 1st we have had 5,447,642 new cases and yet there are only 7000 in hospital with mostly the Delta variant.
Which as we both know is down to Vaccines reducing the number of serious cases.
I have not belittled anybody working hard other than government experts and Johnson, even his own back benchers are rebelling against him. | | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 19:18 - Dec 16 with 2251 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 17:25 - Dec 16 by Gwyn737 |
AFD loves a conspiracy theory.
I bet he thinks the push for eating 5 fruit and veg a day is a ploy by Big Farmer. |
‘Big Farmer ?’ Brilliant, I may go out, buy a hat, come home, put it on, log back on, just so I can raise it to you.
Genius, |  | | |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 10:47 - Dec 17 with 2074 views | Catullus |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 16:38 - Dec 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
According to the Gov.uk site here
https://coronavirus.data.gov.u
and here for cases
https://www.worldometers.info/
Well there was a 23.9% increase in tests from the 14th of December to the 15th.
There was a 32.5% increase in cases from the 14th of December to the 15th.
So in effect an 8.6% increase in cases.
Or to look at it as that chart I posted did the tests per case has gone from 20.8/case to 22.3/case an increase of 6.9%
So as that guy said most of the change comes from more testing not more infections.
Or how to make it look more scary than it actually is. |
Surely a 32.5% increase in cases is a 32.5% increase in cases, no matter how many tests are done?
If you do more tests the percentage can stay the same though the numbers can rise. If you do a lot more tests the percentage can drop but the numbers can still rise! | |
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| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 12:52 - Dec 17 with 2045 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Britain is overreacting to Omicron on 10:47 - Dec 17 by Catullus |
Surely a 32.5% increase in cases is a 32.5% increase in cases, no matter how many tests are done?
If you do more tests the percentage can stay the same though the numbers can rise. If you do a lot more tests the percentage can drop but the numbers can still rise! |
The cases are there if you believe the test results and have been all along.
But they do not show up for the Government to declare unless they test more to find them. Unless they just make them up of course.
If that increase had been with the same number of tests then they would have been a genuine increase in infectivity, but because they only found them by increasing the number of tests it is not a genuine increase, only the difference in rates is the increase in infectivity.
So why didn't Whiity and the government tell you that the massive increase in cases wasn't just due to infectivity but most of it was as a result of extra testing.
I will tell you why, it doesn't have the same fear factor that is why.
Everybody has been repeating the numbers without any critical thinking whatsoever.
And that includes our resident Vaccine expert.
Ask youself would anybody accept the new restrictions based on the possibility that Omicron is more infectious but less virulent when it takes over? | | | |
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