| What is success for Swansea City ? 19:06 - May 8 with 2663 views | KeithHaynes |
Is a return to the premier league that important ? |  |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 19:08 - May 8 with 1232 views | Badlands |
No, a sustainable club and entertaining football is far more important. |  |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 19:14 - May 8 with 1211 views | Fireboy2 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 19:08 - May 8 by Badlands |
No, a sustainable club and entertaining football is far more important. |
Try getting that through to the PL fans. |  | | |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 20:25 - May 8 with 1186 views | BryanSwan |
I think financially for the club it'd be important, but to me i don't think going up at all costs and having more Carvalhal or Clement types seasons up there would be worth it.I think people forget how dire the last 3 seasons were.
Playing well, being entertaining and scoring goals whether thats in the prem or championship is good enough for me. |  |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 20:33 - May 8 with 1180 views | Lorax |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 20:25 - May 8 by BryanSwan |
I think financially for the club it'd be important, but to me i don't think going up at all costs and having more Carvalhal or Clement types seasons up there would be worth it.I think people forget how dire the last 3 seasons were.
Playing well, being entertaining and scoring goals whether thats in the prem or championship is good enough for me. |
I totally agree. I wouldn't mind a promotion every few years but coming straight back down. The financial boost would see us Ok long term and it'd be more interesting.
7 years in the EPL turned into a real drag. | | | |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 20:38 - May 8 with 1170 views | raynor94 |
Happy to remain competitive in the championship.
Would anyone want to a Norwich or Watford |  |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 21:17 - May 8 with 1143 views | AndyCole |
Playing winning effective, efficient, entertaining football leveraging the very best out of our limited resources.
Cooperball is it. Look at his achievements in senior football in so little time, look at the way in which he has transformed Forest from bottom to top echelons playing one of the most exciting attacking brands which smashed, humiliated Martinball 9-2.
We need a manager who can replicate Cooperball achievements. | |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 21:43 - May 8 with 1120 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 20:38 - May 8 by raynor94 |
Happy to remain competitive in the championship.
Would anyone want to a Norwich or Watford |
It’s sad that Jenkins lost the critical ethos of the club when he’d done a lot of the hard work - we resorted to taking free transfers on big contracts instead of scouting in Europe for unknown bargains that would have kept us sustainable - it’s not as if we weren’t an attractive proposition for players after we’d won major silverware and played in Europe.
There’s no reason why we can’t get promoted again - we do need to rediscover what made us a little bit unique in style and identity.
Sadly I don’t think Russ is the man to take us there. |  |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:11 - May 8 with 1095 views | guthrieintherain |
Not for me no enjoyed the PL.
Championship is a good league as well.
I maybe in the minority but league 1 and 2 was enjoyable we have been very lucky as fans bottom to top twice.
Seen it all really.
But this season could and should of been better.
The tactics have not worked he should of at least tried to adapt.
I am happy if we have a manager who wants to play entertaining football but we also need a manager who is prepared to change things if its not working.
I could accept really poor football when the players were of a lower quality but Martins unwillingness to adapt has
left a sour taste for me.
Just want the manager to get the best out of the players he has that will do for me. [Post edited 8 May 2022 22:16]
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:19 - May 8 with 1075 views | magicdaps10 |
I think the aim and dream should always be promotion but there has to be a realistic acceptance and that for me is in and around mid table championship as we stand.
This is why I don't get too excited on making rash predictions and saying that we should be doing better than where we are at present. I watched Wycombe tonight, a team relegated last season and are now at Wembley in the play off final....the gap between each league is bigger than most know or understand.
The answer to your question Keith is no it's not. [Post edited 8 May 2022 22:33]
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:30 - May 8 with 1060 views | Luther27 |
As a fan you always want your team to win. As a professional footballer you always want to win.
If you accept mediocrity then what’s the point of being a fan or a professional footballer? | | | |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:32 - May 8 with 1048 views | Fireboy2 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:19 - May 8 by magicdaps10 |
I think the aim and dream should always be promotion but there has to be a realistic acceptance and that for me is in and around mid table championship as we stand.
This is why I don't get too excited on making rash predictions and saying that we should be doing better than where we are at present. I watched Wycombe tonight, a team relegated last season and are now at Wembley in the play off final....the gap between each league is bigger than most know or understand.
The answer to your question Keith is no it's not. [Post edited 8 May 2022 22:33]
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Great post daps, my feelings exactly. | | | |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:40 - May 8 with 1044 views | magicdaps10 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:32 - May 8 by Fireboy2 |
Great post daps, my feelings exactly. |
This is why I bang my head with some on here.
Sometimes people see things from the outside clearer but also some lose all sense of reality when looking in from the outside.....i think that sums up these fans who feel the need we should be doing better, even kidding themselves in to the fact THAT we should be doing better. | |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:45 - May 8 with 1039 views | Luther27 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:40 - May 8 by magicdaps10 |
This is why I bang my head with some on here.
Sometimes people see things from the outside clearer but also some lose all sense of reality when looking in from the outside.....i think that sums up these fans who feel the need we should be doing better, even kidding themselves in to the fact THAT we should be doing better. |
So…you’re happy with yesterday’s performance? | | | |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:45 - May 8 with 1039 views | felixstowe_jack |
Challenging for play off position and getting into playofg places in success.
Cooper did it twice.
Martin and Potter failed.
One note for the statistically minded . Swanses's league attendances for the season totalled 399,936
Wales second Club attendances for the league season 396,019
Quite amazing as they have twice our population and a bigger concourse. | |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:55 - May 8 with 1027 views | magicdaps10 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:45 - May 8 by Luther27 |
So…you’re happy with yesterday’s performance? |
Sorry! Not sure why you are asking me that question in relevance to the thread and my post. | |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:01 - May 8 with 1025 views | Luther27 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:55 - May 8 by magicdaps10 |
Sorry! Not sure why you are asking me that question in relevance to the thread and my post. |
Please refer to my earlier post. It makes my position pretty clear.
I’m assuming from reading yours that fan’s expectations are to high? | | | |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:11 - May 8 with 1013 views | magicdaps10 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:01 - May 8 by Luther27 |
Please refer to my earlier post. It makes my position pretty clear.
I’m assuming from reading yours that fan’s expectations are to high? |
Still unsure on the relevance but I will answer the questions.
No I wasn't happy with yesterday's performance.
I would say that some fans expectations are too high, its common at every club up and down the land.
If fans want victories game after game and walk away from games happy with performances then I would suggest they support Liverpool or Man City, but a word of warning that there will be times even supporting them that you won't get victories nor be happy with a performance once in a while. | |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:27 - May 8 with 993 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Simply playing above or to the quality of the squad in relation to the rest of the league. That’s as simple as it has to be.
What has gone on before doesn’t matter, it’s about the now.
For example, this season we had probably the 6th or 7th best squad in the league and finished 15th.
Last season we probably had the same and finished 4th. Which is why last season is seen by the sensible people as a success and this season as not so. |  |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:34 - May 8 with 990 views | Badlands |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 20:25 - May 8 by BryanSwan |
I think financially for the club it'd be important, but to me i don't think going up at all costs and having more Carvalhal or Clement types seasons up there would be worth it.I think people forget how dire the last 3 seasons were.
Playing well, being entertaining and scoring goals whether thats in the prem or championship is good enough for me. |
Started with Mink. | |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:37 - May 8 with 989 views | Luther27 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:11 - May 8 by magicdaps10 |
Still unsure on the relevance but I will answer the questions.
No I wasn't happy with yesterday's performance.
I would say that some fans expectations are too high, its common at every club up and down the land.
If fans want victories game after game and walk away from games happy with performances then I would suggest they support Liverpool or Man City, but a word of warning that there will be times even supporting them that you won't get victories nor be happy with a performance once in a while. |
As a fan I’m prepared to accept a loss if my team has given their all. Our current team don’t and I find that unacceptable. Yes I don’t agree with the way we play. No I don’t agree with the mantra of we are a selling club and need to embark on yet another project of rebuilding. No I don’t agree with spending beyond our means and bankrupting the club.
However as a fee paying fan I expect the best efforts from the club. My expectations are no higher than that. If fans like you say my expectations are too high then what is the point of throwing good money after bad in the form of season ticket renewal? Why would I pay to watch the crap I’ve seen this season?
If achieving 15th place is acceptable then carry on and pay your dues. I’m not. | | | |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:42 - May 8 with 984 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:37 - May 8 by Luther27 |
As a fan I’m prepared to accept a loss if my team has given their all. Our current team don’t and I find that unacceptable. Yes I don’t agree with the way we play. No I don’t agree with the mantra of we are a selling club and need to embark on yet another project of rebuilding. No I don’t agree with spending beyond our means and bankrupting the club.
However as a fee paying fan I expect the best efforts from the club. My expectations are no higher than that. If fans like you say my expectations are too high then what is the point of throwing good money after bad in the form of season ticket renewal? Why would I pay to watch the crap I’ve seen this season?
If achieving 15th place is acceptable then carry on and pay your dues. I’m not. |
Indeed, there seems to be some myth that people on here are demanding promotion.
I’ve not seen that at all.
People are simply wanting us to perform as we should be considering the quality of squad and money spent on it.
I was relatively happy with Potters season, if a little disappointed. I was happy with both Coopers seasons - none of these three ended up in promotion so promotion and the PL has nothing to do with it.
Finishing 15th with a squad that has the likes of Piroe, Obafemi, Downes, Grimes, Ntcham, Wolf, Naughton and Cabango should never be ok. | |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:48 - May 8 with 979 views | Luther27 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:42 - May 8 by Dr_Parnassus |
Indeed, there seems to be some myth that people on here are demanding promotion.
I’ve not seen that at all.
People are simply wanting us to perform as we should be considering the quality of squad and money spent on it.
I was relatively happy with Potters season, if a little disappointed. I was happy with both Coopers seasons - none of these three ended up in promotion so promotion and the PL has nothing to do with it.
Finishing 15th with a squad that has the likes of Piroe, Obafemi, Downes, Grimes, Ntcham, Wolf, Naughton and Cabango should never be ok. |
I personally cannot accept mediocrity. If that’s the direction of the club then I’m having no part of it. | | | |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:55 - May 8 with 971 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 23:48 - May 8 by Luther27 |
I personally cannot accept mediocrity. If that’s the direction of the club then I’m having no part of it. |
Mediocrity when we are mediocre I have no issue with.
The 90’s are still my favourite time supporting the club, we were rubbish but all the passion, effort and desire was there. One of the worst squads in the league and scrapping to get into lower mid-table.
It’s a world away from having one of the best sides in the league and finishing lower mid table though. | |
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| What is success for Swansea City ? on 00:09 - May 9 with 960 views | jasper_T |
The Championship has been very ordinary for the last few seasons, and it's never been a league where the top 6 is out of sight for the majority of its clubs. "Success" has to involve being a part of that end of season excitement. Barnsley did it last season. Luton did it this. It's not a stratified league where you have a Big 4/6/8 and the rest can only dream of a meaningful finish. Any team that gets it right with whatever players are at their disposal has a very realistic shot of a playoff place.
Potter disappointed but 5 wins and 3 draws in our last 9 games showed we were on a positive path. A little less shuffling before Christmas and a better choice of keeper and the playoffs were right there for us. Cooper crept into 6th with just 70 points after the covid break revived us following 6 poor months of solidly bottom half form. A more consistent season after that and the automatics looked within reach until the end of March. He had some highly paid players but who would trade Piroe or Obafemi for Andre Ayew? | | | |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 08:00 - May 9 with 891 views | magicdaps10 |
| What is success for Swansea City ? on 22:40 - May 8 by magicdaps10 |
This is why I bang my head with some on here.
Sometimes people see things from the outside clearer but also some lose all sense of reality when looking in from the outside.....i think that sums up these fans who feel the need we should be doing better, even kidding themselves in to the fact THAT we should be doing better. |
As I said 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ðŸ¤¦â€â™‚ï¸ | |
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