| Manchester Arena inquiry 16:29 - Oct 20 with 2027 views | britferry |
A British Transport Police officer, who was decorated for her bravery after the attack, took a 2 hour break with a colleague to buy a kebab, when they were only allowed an hour. She was on duty at the train station where he arrived.
If just one of them had been at their post, he could have been stopped.
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 16:37 - Oct 20 with 1545 views | swan65split |
If you've seen the cctv footage of the bomber with that pack on his back, he looked totally out of place and struggling as he walked. and as someone stated at the enquiry this week looked very suspicious , should have been confronted. |  | | |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:03 - Oct 20 with 1501 views | raynor94 |
Well the evidence from the dad today who reported the bomber to a steward and he refused to get involved.
Is truly shocking |  |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:19 - Oct 20 with 1495 views | KeithHaynes |
I just hope these guys are telling the truth and there’s at least some proof. |  |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:29 - Oct 20 with 1490 views | britferry |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:03 - Oct 20 by raynor94 |
Well the evidence from the dad today who reported the bomber to a steward and he refused to get involved.
Is truly shocking |
Just saw it on the 6pm news, shocking... the bomber was hiding and the father confronted him and repeatedly asked him questions which he wouldn't answer, he then went looking for police but only found a security guard who said he "knew about the bloke with the ruck sack".
The security guard called "Mr Agga" (something like that) will be questioned later. | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:37 - Oct 20 with 1483 views | controversial_jack |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:29 - Oct 20 by britferry |
Just saw it on the 6pm news, shocking... the bomber was hiding and the father confronted him and repeatedly asked him questions which he wouldn't answer, he then went looking for police but only found a security guard who said he "knew about the bloke with the ruck sack".
The security guard called "Mr Agga" (something like that) will be questioned later. |
Security guards have no authority and call only call the police which he should have.Anyone could have called the police, but hindsight is great | | | |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:46 - Oct 20 with 1478 views | Boundy |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:37 - Oct 20 by controversial_jack |
Security guards have no authority and call only call the police which he should have.Anyone could have called the police, but hindsight is great |
Honestly that's the best response you could have come up with" I wonder what the security guard was " securing " | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 19:38 - Oct 20 with 1461 views | britferry |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:37 - Oct 20 by controversial_jack |
Security guards have no authority and call only call the police which he should have.Anyone could have called the police, but hindsight is great |
if he told him to leave, he would have left.
Just to test out your theory, I'll tell the bouncers that next time they try to kick me out of Barons | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 20:15 - Oct 20 with 1439 views | Catullus |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 19:38 - Oct 20 by britferry |
if he told him to leave, he would have left.
Just to test out your theory, I'll tell the bouncers that next time they try to kick me out of Barons |
Only if you can time travel, on the way back stop off at Manchester arena and phone the police!
If he looked so out of place and dodgy why did no one phone the police? Terrorists love a soft target and an area full of kids, you don't get much softer.
The security guard should get a proper grilling. | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 20:34 - Oct 20 with 1426 views | swan65split |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 20:15 - Oct 20 by Catullus |
Only if you can time travel, on the way back stop off at Manchester arena and phone the police!
If he looked so out of place and dodgy why did no one phone the police? Terrorists love a soft target and an area full of kids, you don't get much softer.
The security guard should get a proper grilling. |
Have you not seen the cctv? he looked like sherpa tensing heading for everest base camp, loaded up, | | | |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 20:48 - Oct 20 with 1414 views | britferry |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 20:51 - Oct 20 with 1408 views | swan65split |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 20:48 - Oct 20 by britferry |
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someone should have picked him out, | | | |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 10:03 - Oct 21 with 1337 views | Catullus |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 20:51 - Oct 20 by swan65split |
someone should have picked him out, |
They should have, but with the decorated Police officer taking an extended break and the security guard not interested...then the CCTV operator maybe not bothered either, what could people do? They could have left the arena if concerned I guess.
Someone should be held responsible and face punishment but lets be honest, he was a suicide bomber, he was willing to die. The bomb would have gone off somewhere, no matter what, as soon as he ralised the game was up it was  and we can only speculate as to whether lives would have been saved or more lives lost. | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 17:21 - Oct 27 with 1296 views | britferry |
The testimonies from yesterday and today goes to show the quality of the stewards on duty, just people going thru the motions to earn a bit of extra cash. I can't blame them at all, its just the way things are, they aren't in at as a profession. | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 17:26 - Oct 27 with 1284 views | onehunglow |
Let's not forget the stewards and police are not those who took a device into the MEN to blow kids to pieces.
Let's apportion evil and blame where it lies-with the terrorist.
Mistakes made but events like this shouldn't happen. | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 22:45 - Oct 27 with 1239 views | majorraglan |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 17:26 - Oct 27 by onehunglow |
Let's not forget the stewards and police are not those who took a device into the MEN to blow kids to pieces.
Let's apportion evil and blame where it lies-with the terrorist.
Mistakes made but events like this shouldn't happen. |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 23:02 - Oct 27 with 1231 views | NotLoyal |
We love a scapegoat in hindsight in the UK. |  |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 23:27 - Oct 27 with 1223 views | majorraglan |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 17:21 - Oct 27 by britferry |
The testimonies from yesterday and today goes to show the quality of the stewards on duty, just people going thru the motions to earn a bit of extra cash. I can't blame them at all, its just the way things are, they aren't in at as a profession. |
Agreed. I read in the Daily Mail one of the stewards was an 18 year old kid who was earning £4.24 an hour. Mental, what do people expect when that’s the profile of the employees. | | | |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 00:02 - Oct 28 with 1214 views | swan65split |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 23:02 - Oct 27 by NotLoyal |
We love a scapegoat in hindsight in the UK. |
I understand what your saying, and hopefully security for events when and if we get back to some sort of normality, will have learned from this, | | | |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 20:58 - Nov 2 with 1147 views | britferry |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 20:48 - Oct 20 by britferry |
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a manager now reckons he "blended in too well" with all the mum & dads & kids | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 07:50 - Jun 17 with 856 views | britferry |
findings released at 2pm today | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 09:34 - Jun 17 with 799 views | Catullus |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:03 - Oct 20 by raynor94 |
Well the evidence from the dad today who reported the bomber to a steward and he refused to get involved.
Is truly shocking |
That struck me too, these teenage stewards on minimum wage with barely even basic training, surely it makes shiowsec/SMG culpable too? They had "security" there who weren't fit for purpose. I can imagine these two teens after being told....you go, no you go, I'm not doing it, nor me and off they walked leaving the mad bomber to kill people.
After this inquiry things need to happen and in conjunction with the defibrillator campaign too. How about every arena having, by law, every square inch of public space covered by cctv, no blind spots. Defibrillators next to every fire extinguisher. Security companies having to supply at least 50% of their staff properly trained and with experience, no more instances of a couple of teens being left in charge.
Those BTP though, a 2 hour break, a 10 mile drive to get food, shouldn't they be facing punishment, their neglect is shocking. | |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 12:41 - Jun 17 with 772 views | controversial_jack |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 19:38 - Oct 20 by britferry |
if he told him to leave, he would have left.
Just to test out your theory, I'll tell the bouncers that next time they try to kick me out of Barons |
A guy loaded with a bomb, intent on killing as many ppl as possible, would just have left quietly if asked to? I've heard it all now. | | | |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:10 - Jun 17 with 721 views | CountyJim |
Not long after this the Mrs and me where out in town (Newport) for a night out I noticed an Asian bloke in his 30s I'd say of Arab decent brought a rucksack into the pub we where in anyway it grabbed my attention and I was hoping the door security would have thought the same anyway he left this bag under a table and left the table I said to my Mrs I've got a horrible feeling here so went up to the door staff explained the way I felt the black doorman said was I a racist  because an Asian bloke had a rucksack you really couldn't write it I went back in told my Mrs we left on the way out the door man I spoke to was sarcastic had s good night then Sir  we about two minutes later saw two PCSOs I explained what happened fair play they understood my concern and could see they entered the pub .
Obviously nothing happened but I couldn't believe the reaction of the door staff |  | | |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:19 - Jun 17 with 716 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:10 - Jun 17 by CountyJim |
Not long after this the Mrs and me where out in town (Newport) for a night out I noticed an Asian bloke in his 30s I'd say of Arab decent brought a rucksack into the pub we where in anyway it grabbed my attention and I was hoping the door security would have thought the same anyway he left this bag under a table and left the table I said to my Mrs I've got a horrible feeling here so went up to the door staff explained the way I felt the black doorman said was I a racist because an Asian bloke had a rucksack you really couldn't write it I went back in told my Mrs we left on the way out the door man I spoke to was sarcastic had s good night then Sir we about two minutes later saw two PCSOs I explained what happened fair play they understood my concern and could see they entered the pub .
Obviously nothing happened but I couldn't believe the reaction of the door staff |
It only takes a couple of minutes to politely ask a couple of questions of a person away from their baggage. If you trained you know what to ask and what to look out for in the response. |  |
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| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:46 - Jun 17 with 700 views | Lohengrin |
| Manchester Arena inquiry on 18:10 - Jun 17 by CountyJim |
Not long after this the Mrs and me where out in town (Newport) for a night out I noticed an Asian bloke in his 30s I'd say of Arab decent brought a rucksack into the pub we where in anyway it grabbed my attention and I was hoping the door security would have thought the same anyway he left this bag under a table and left the table I said to my Mrs I've got a horrible feeling here so went up to the door staff explained the way I felt the black doorman said was I a racist because an Asian bloke had a rucksack you really couldn't write it I went back in told my Mrs we left on the way out the door man I spoke to was sarcastic had s good night then Sir we about two minutes later saw two PCSOs I explained what happened fair play they understood my concern and could see they entered the pub .
Obviously nothing happened but I couldn't believe the reaction of the door staff |
If you remember not too long after the bombing one of the young security guards was asked why the murderer hadn’t been challenged? His answer was that it was too much hassle fronting Asians. They play the race card straight away and he could have ended up on a disciplinary with work or being questioned by the police. It was an honest answer and this is where the madness has led us. |  |
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