| Obafemi 22:54 - Jan 8 with 1687 views | AguycalledJack |
I hope I’m wrong. But this chap ain’t got what it takes. Discuss. |  | | |  |
| Obafemi on 00:04 - Jan 9 with 1636 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
He has scored 4 Premier league goals is strong and fast. He has not had a decent long run in the team like Cullen. He is in the same place as Piroe was last season. Same age good pedigree few chances to impress.
Piroe has kicked on once given the chance. He was boosted by an easy goal v a youthful Reading team and found a good partnership with the clever player Patterson.
Obafemi was highly thought of at Southampton and 'earned' the red card by pressurising the defender. After the red card Southampton sat back such that he could no long utilise his pace so much.
Swansea needs to adjust the balance and get in more runners rather than passers. They do not need O'Riley although he is a fine player.
A Josh Bowler type player would be more useful. Obafemi today was up against Premier league players. He should do well in the lower league and capable of scoring freely. |  |
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| Obafemi on 00:08 - Jan 9 with 1632 views | AguycalledJack |
I hope your right but I just don’t see it. That said, I’ll be more than happy to be proved wrong. [Post edited 9 Jan 2022 0:09]
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| Obafemi on 00:15 - Jan 9 with 1624 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Obafemi on 00:08 - Jan 9 by AguycalledJack |
I hope your right but I just don’t see it. That said, I’ll be more than happy to be proved wrong. [Post edited 9 Jan 2022 0:09]
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I saw Ante Rajkovic 's debut way back. I was not impressed at all. He looked slow and disinterested. He turned into a monster defender like Ashley Williams. | |
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| Obafemi on 00:23 - Jan 9 with 1619 views | AguycalledJack |
I’m just going on what I’ve seen to date. Attitude, touch etc all seems off to me. I called Celina powderpuff when we were all on planet swans and said he was league 1 at best. I got a few pelters for that, reruns of the Man City goal etc. but it was my gut reaction. And I’m getting the same feeling about this guy. I just hope I’m wrong. | | | |
| Obafemi on 14:56 - Jan 9 with 1409 views | NotLoyal |
| Obafemi on 00:23 - Jan 9 by AguycalledJack |
I’m just going on what I’ve seen to date. Attitude, touch etc all seems off to me. I called Celina powderpuff when we were all on planet swans and said he was league 1 at best. I got a few pelters for that, reruns of the Man City goal etc. but it was my gut reaction. And I’m getting the same feeling about this guy. I just hope I’m wrong. |
He doesn’t seem that involved in the game. |  |
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| Obafemi on 15:13 - Jan 9 with 1388 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Obafemi on 00:23 - Jan 9 by AguycalledJack |
I’m just going on what I’ve seen to date. Attitude, touch etc all seems off to me. I called Celina powderpuff when we were all on planet swans and said he was league 1 at best. I got a few pelters for that, reruns of the Man City goal etc. but it was my gut reaction. And I’m getting the same feeling about this guy. I just hope I’m wrong. |
The biggest two problems for me were as you said his"touch" and his lack of attacking the defense when he had the ball.
Even Ntcham and Dhanda created more trouble for their defense in the short time they were on that he did the whole game.
Even Cullen tried taking on players by passing them or going around them. | | | |
| Obafemi on 15:19 - Jan 9 with 1380 views | Thornburyswan |
He plays on or too often beyond the final shoulder so needs a team to be playing him in with a through ball for him to run onto - two issues currently (1) we prefer a sideways pass & (2) he spends too much time beyond the final shoulder & offside.
That said it would be fair to say he’s not had a decent run in the side to see if he could improve that - difficult to fit him in with 5 at the back when Grimes, Downes, Ntcham, Pato & Piroe appear to be the first names on the team sheet. His best chance will come if we go with 4 at the back. | | | |
| Obafemi on 15:19 - Jan 9 with 1378 views | grabsplatter |
Our recruitment team have seen something in him that we certainly haven't yet |  | | |
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| Obafemi on 15:21 - Jan 9 with 1373 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Obafemi on 15:19 - Jan 9 by Thornburyswan |
He plays on or too often beyond the final shoulder so needs a team to be playing him in with a through ball for him to run onto - two issues currently (1) we prefer a sideways pass & (2) he spends too much time beyond the final shoulder & offside.
That said it would be fair to say he’s not had a decent run in the side to see if he could improve that - difficult to fit him in with 5 at the back when Grimes, Downes, Ntcham, Pato & Piroe appear to be the first names on the team sheet. His best chance will come if we go with 4 at the back. |
I don't think he was offside anywhere near as often as Piroe, who was for him quite lazy getting back on side. | | | |
| Obafemi on 21:26 - Jan 9 with 1303 views | Flashberryjack |
| Obafemi on 00:15 - Jan 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I saw Ante Rajkovic 's debut way back. I was not impressed at all. He looked slow and disinterested. He turned into a monster defender like Ashley Williams. |
Ashley Williams was a good player for us, but to mention Ante Rajkovic and him in the same sentence, is Sacrilege. |  |
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| Obafemi on 21:51 - Jan 9 with 1275 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
Obafemi has got something.
If I was going to bet on it though I would bet that he will fade into obscurity and years from now people will look back on the idea that we sold a striker with a proven track record in this division, in this team, for peanuts...and were fine with that because Obafemi was going to replace him...as ludicrous.
I hope it does work out for him. Would take coaching and adjusting of the team to get the most out of him though.
However, I have seen no evidence that Martin has any intention (never mind an idea of how to go about it) of helping Obafemi to find a role in the team.
Usually in games (about the hour mark), when I'm thinking 'it would be worth going 2 up front and giving Obafemi a whirl...Martin opts to make the most bizarre sub I could possibly think of.
e.g. - taking Laird off for a centre-back or moving Downes to centre-half, putting Ntcham in CM and pushing Korey smith up behind the striker. |  |
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| Obafemi on 22:07 - Jan 9 with 1261 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Obafemi on 21:26 - Jan 9 by Flashberryjack |
Ashley Williams was a good player for us, but to mention Ante Rajkovic and him in the same sentence, is Sacrilege. |
Ante was a great player but only 6 international caps. Ashley 86 international caps and many more games for Swansea. Al his time in Swansea was successful every season. The was Swansea's greatest two era s and Ashley's lasted a lot longer. | |
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| Obafemi on 17:34 - Jan 10 with 1091 views | swancity |
| Obafemi on 21:26 - Jan 9 by Flashberryjack |
Ashley Williams was a good player for us, but to mention Ante Rajkovic and him in the same sentence, is Sacrilege. |
No it’s not. Arguably the finest centre backs in the history of our club. | |
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| Obafemi on 17:43 - Jan 10 with 1084 views | GruffStephens |
| Obafemi on 21:26 - Jan 9 by Flashberryjack |
Ashley Williams was a good player for us, but to mention Ante Rajkovic and him in the same sentence, is Sacrilege. |
Ante, my dad said he was the finest centre back he ever saw in a white shirt. And he went back to 1948.
Can you imagine him in this swans side ? | | | |
| Obafemi on 17:44 - Jan 10 with 1078 views | onehunglow |
| Obafemi on 17:43 - Jan 10 by GruffStephens |
Ante, my dad said he was the finest centre back he ever saw in a white shirt. And he went back to 1948.
Can you imagine him in this swans side ? |
He was.
He was much respected and solid.
He was not with u a long a Ash though.
He and Ash would be some pairing.
Imagine 2 centre halves in our team playing-as centre halves | |
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| Obafemi on 17:47 - Jan 10 with 1069 views | GruffStephens |
| Obafemi on 17:44 - Jan 10 by onehunglow |
He was.
He was much respected and solid.
He was not with u a long a Ash though.
He and Ash would be some pairing.
Imagine 2 centre halves in our team playing-as centre halves |
Not comparing the two, just saying he was the best. | | | |
| Obafemi on 17:52 - Jan 10 with 1053 views | onehunglow |
| Obafemi on 17:47 - Jan 10 by GruffStephens |
Not comparing the two, just saying he was the best. |
I onow you weren't.
Its debatable as is everything in sport.
Ante was more talented though | |
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| Obafemi on 18:00 - Jan 10 with 1045 views | GruffStephens |
| Obafemi on 17:52 - Jan 10 by onehunglow |
I onow you weren't.
Its debatable as is everything in sport.
Ante was more talented though |
On the subject of Obafemi though. Maybe he needs a loan ? | | | |
| Obafemi on 20:40 - Jan 10 with 971 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Obafemi on 18:00 - Jan 10 by GruffStephens |
On the subject of Obafemi though. Maybe he needs a loan ? |
Isn't this need for a lot of players "beneffiting by being loaned out" a suggestion that our Manager and coaches can't get the best out of them? | | | |
| Obafemi on 21:16 - Jan 10 with 944 views | OptimisticJack |
| Obafemi on 22:07 - Jan 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Ante was a great player but only 6 international caps. Ashley 86 international caps and many more games for Swansea. Al his time in Swansea was successful every season. The was Swansea's greatest two era s and Ashley's lasted a lot longer. |
I don't think we can compare international caps between the 2 countries.
Chris Gunter has had over 100 caps!!
Enough said. | |
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| Obafemi on 09:23 - Jan 11 with 876 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Obafemi on 15:19 - Jan 9 by Thornburyswan |
He plays on or too often beyond the final shoulder so needs a team to be playing him in with a through ball for him to run onto - two issues currently (1) we prefer a sideways pass & (2) he spends too much time beyond the final shoulder & offside.
That said it would be fair to say he’s not had a decent run in the side to see if he could improve that - difficult to fit him in with 5 at the back when Grimes, Downes, Ntcham, Pato & Piroe appear to be the first names on the team sheet. His best chance will come if we go with 4 at the back. |
We had a similar issue with Bafetimbi Gomis. He’d be making these top class runs and the ball would come too late and he’d be getting pelters for being offside. You have to play to players strengths and we aren’t playing to a lot of ours. | | | |
| Obafemi on 17:09 - Jan 15 with 749 views | AguycalledJack |
Much better when he came on today. | | | |
| Obafemi on 17:11 - Jan 15 with 739 views | Dr_Winston |
| Obafemi on 09:23 - Jan 11 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
We had a similar issue with Bafetimbi Gomis. He’d be making these top class runs and the ball would come too late and he’d be getting pelters for being offside. You have to play to players strengths and we aren’t playing to a lot of ours. |
It's often the case that strikers get the blame for the teams shortcomings, even more so when they've featured as fleetingly as Obafemi has.
If he (or Whittaker) had had the chances that Cullen had and looked lost then fine. As it is he's looked OK in the game time he's had so far. Not amazing, but OK. He should only improve with more of it. [Post edited 15 Jan 2022 17:18]
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