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School uniforms 11:51 - Sep 3 with 5334 viewscontroversial_jack

Scrap them! Many countries seem to educate their children well enough without them.

It's a very big expense for many parents, just to get kids to conform
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School uniforms on 12:29 - Sep 3 with 3514 viewsSirjohnalot

Isn’t the thinking behind it stopping kids turning school into a fashion show thereby making the kids from poorer families look worse ?

Just need to make the prices cheaper, school sell them directly maybe ?
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School uniforms on 12:45 - Sep 3 with 3500 viewsTogg

Seems happy enough and a multi millionaire
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School uniforms on 12:55 - Sep 3 with 3486 viewsBoundy

Nothing to do with how well educated the kids are , nothing at all . Great idea in fact , everyone doesn’t have compete in the latest fashion trends , very decent prices for the basic trousers shirts etc . Getting to conform this isn’t Russia you know

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School uniforms on 13:33 - Sep 3 with 3448 viewsJack_Kass

I disagree, a uniform creates a sense of identity in a school environment and prevents bullying of kids for the clothes they do or do not wear.

Prices should be capped though

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School uniforms on 15:57 - Sep 3 with 3413 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Many countries with some the best education systems in the world seem to think school uniforms are a good idea to install discipline and pride in their pupils achievements. Striving to improve oneself instead of sinking to the lowest level is to be congratulated.

I just wish some of our public services had people in decent uniforms.

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School uniforms on 16:09 - Sep 3 with 3406 viewsLuther27

I wonder what the the schools would do if pupils turned up not wearing uniform? A lot of families will have more than one child to buy uniforms for. I’m very sorry but when you hear families are having to choose between energy bills and the cost of living increases the paying for school uniforms would be way down on my list.
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School uniforms on 17:20 - Sep 3 with 3381 viewsGwyn737

Uniforms are a great leveller and that’s their most important role. It’s vital.

Good for instilling pride and a sense of belonging.

The evidence for impact on behaviour and attainment is a bit sketchy - pretty impossible to pin point any complete causal links.

Any school that insists on wholly branded uniform and/or has limited supplies should get in the bin.
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School uniforms on 17:29 - Sep 3 with 3359 views73__73

The op obviously doesn’t know why there are school uniforms

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School uniforms on 18:23 - Sep 3 with 3350 viewsBoundy

School uniforms on 16:09 - Sep 3 by Luther27

I wonder what the the schools would do if pupils turned up not wearing uniform? A lot of families will have more than one child to buy uniforms for. I’m very sorry but when you hear families are having to choose between energy bills and the cost of living increases the paying for school uniforms would be way down on my list.


A lot of families have buy clothes full stop plain black trousers / skirt , white shirt / blouse have to be a whole lot cheaper than than what ever the latest fashion trends costs

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School uniforms on 18:42 - Sep 3 with 3329 views73__73

The whole idea of school uniforms is so all children are on the same level.
Get rid of school uniforms and children from better off backgrounds will be wearing designer clothes to school and that’s the reason why we have school uniforms.

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School uniforms on 18:49 - Sep 3 with 3334 viewsLuther27

School uniforms on 18:23 - Sep 3 by Boundy

A lot of families have buy clothes full stop plain black trousers / skirt , white shirt / blouse have to be a whole lot cheaper than than what ever the latest fashion trends costs


I agree…but when you add the school motifs the price heads North big time.
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School uniforms on 19:02 - Sep 3 with 3321 viewsAguycalledJack

School uniforms on 18:49 - Sep 3 by Luther27

I agree…but when you add the school motifs the price heads North big time.


Welsh government currently looking at banning school logos on uniforms to cut the cost.
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School uniforms on 19:58 - Sep 3 with 3282 viewscontroversial_jack

Uniforms are conveying the wrong message to children. Life is not equal, it never has been.
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School uniforms on 20:04 - Sep 3 with 3266 viewsunion_jack

School uniforms on 19:58 - Sep 3 by controversial_jack

Uniforms are conveying the wrong message to children. Life is not equal, it never has been.


Dear me, life maybe unequal but you don’t encourage inequality at every opportunity especially at that impressionable age.

Uniforms are there for a well documented reason!

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School uniforms on 20:07 - Sep 3 with 3262 viewsGwyn737

School uniforms on 19:02 - Sep 3 by AguycalledJack

Welsh government currently looking at banning school logos on uniforms to cut the cost.


Not sure about Wales but these are the statutory rules in England:

https://educationhub.blog.gov.
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School uniforms on 20:14 - Sep 3 with 3247 viewscontroversial_jack

School uniforms on 20:04 - Sep 3 by union_jack

Dear me, life maybe unequal but you don’t encourage inequality at every opportunity especially at that impressionable age.

Uniforms are there for a well documented reason!


Why not, are you ok with lying to them?
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School uniforms on 20:17 - Sep 3 with 3247 viewsCatullus

Of course ther should be uniforms but things like blazers should be dropped, they are expensive and too hot in summer, too cold & not waterproof in winter.

There should be iron on badges so parents can buy the cheaper items on sale in supermarkets.

We had to buy new trousers for our son, we ended up in M&S and paid 51 for 3X2 pairs of black trousers.
Dwr y Felin used to allow polo shirts in the summer but they are scrapping that this year and it has to be shirts and jumpers with a blazer which are all pre badged and expensive.

For a less well off family with more than one kid it is an expensive nightmare.

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School uniforms on 20:32 - Sep 3 with 3231 viewscontroversial_jack

Britain Ireland and Malta , are the only countries in Europe that has mandatory uniforms. Italy has stopped them because of historical links to Mussolini. That says it all to me.

Makes me wonder how Europe manages to educate it's pupils without dressing them all the same
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School uniforms on 20:36 - Sep 3 with 3229 viewsGwyn737

School uniforms on 20:32 - Sep 3 by controversial_jack

Britain Ireland and Malta , are the only countries in Europe that has mandatory uniforms. Italy has stopped them because of historical links to Mussolini. That says it all to me.

Makes me wonder how Europe manages to educate it's pupils without dressing them all the same


We don’t have compulsory school uniforms.

One of the reasons they are so prevalent in the UK is because it’s one of the few things in education that has overwhelming parental support.

Running a school with a uniform is much easier too.
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School uniforms on 20:52 - Sep 3 with 3207 viewsAguycalledJack

School uniforms on 20:07 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737

Not sure about Wales but these are the statutory rules in England:

https://educationhub.blog.gov.


They are thinking of banning the embroidered logo or utilising cheaper iron on versions. The problem is very often you have to go to one single shop/ supplier. Whereas if you didn’t have the embroidered logo, you could get exactly the same in Tesco, Morrisons, Asda for a fraction of the price. There’s a bbc online article floating about somewhere that I read re banning the use of logos in wales but I don’t know how to post it here.
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School uniforms on 20:56 - Sep 3 with 3204 viewsGwyn737

School uniforms on 20:52 - Sep 3 by AguycalledJack

They are thinking of banning the embroidered logo or utilising cheaper iron on versions. The problem is very often you have to go to one single shop/ supplier. Whereas if you didn’t have the embroidered logo, you could get exactly the same in Tesco, Morrisons, Asda for a fraction of the price. There’s a bbc online article floating about somewhere that I read re banning the use of logos in wales but I don’t know how to post it here.


Very sensible if followed through 👍
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School uniforms on 21:11 - Sep 3 with 3189 viewsSirjohnalot

School uniforms on 19:58 - Sep 3 by controversial_jack

Uniforms are conveying the wrong message to children. Life is not equal, it never has been.


Why do Swansea play in a white kit ? Why not just turn up in whatever they want ?
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School uniforms on 21:41 - Sep 3 with 3159 viewscontroversial_jack

School uniforms on 21:11 - Sep 3 by Sirjohnalot

Why do Swansea play in a white kit ? Why not just turn up in whatever they want ?


Their parents don't have to pay lots of money out of their own pockets and they a have individual contracts and numbers
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School uniforms on 21:44 - Sep 3 with 3155 viewsGwyn737

School uniforms on 21:41 - Sep 3 by controversial_jack

Their parents don't have to pay lots of money out of their own pockets and they a have individual contracts and numbers


Do you think uniform is more expensive than buying a range of different clothes?

I’m not sure what you’re objection really is?

Can you give a list of ‘cons?’ Do you see any ‘Pros?’
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School uniforms on 21:48 - Sep 3 with 3148 viewsSirjohnalot

School uniforms on 21:41 - Sep 3 by controversial_jack

Their parents don't have to pay lots of money out of their own pockets and they a have individual contracts and numbers


The money is a fair point which can be overcome by plain tops with the logo ironed on. Having poorer kids be bullied as they can’t keep up with the richer kid’s expensive shoes, tops etc.

When I was in a Cefn Saeson. I had a plain black jumper, no logos at all. Tie was the only thing that was unique to the school.

It’s also a sign of belonging, all part of the same school, looks smart.
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