| PAY UP > SALA on 15:49 - Aug 26 with 3050 views | swan65split |
Awful state of affairs. |  | |  |
| PAY UP > SALA on 15:52 - Aug 26 with 3039 views | raynor94 |
Even now still refusing to pay, they really are the lowest of the low |  |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 16:01 - Aug 26 with 3009 views | KeithHaynes |
It is what it is, I can’t see any club acting differently. |  |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 16:59 - Aug 26 with 2903 views | felixstowe_jack |
| PAY UP > SALA on 16:01 - Aug 26 by KeithHaynes |
It is what it is, I can’t see any club acting differently. |
I can they bought him he was their player they were legally responsible to pay whatever they owed. |  |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 17:04 - Aug 26 with 2891 views | trampie |
I can't see what Kaardiff are trying to achieve, I've argued since day one based on what was reported that he was their player and they need to pay the selling club. |  |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 17:33 - Aug 26 with 2833 views | trampie |
I'm surprised I haven't heard any rumblings of them been kicked out of the football league (or whatever it is called) by the authorities, you can't have teams buying a player and not paying for him surely. | |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 18:17 - Aug 26 with 2757 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Time to cough up you parsimonious miscreants. |  |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 18:23 - Aug 26 with 2744 views | Dr_Winston |
Given the amount of mocking that has come our way from our six fingered bretheren over the previous financial issues we've faced I'm deeply enjoying this.
The amount that they're trying to screw Nantes out of works out at around ten times our total debts both times combined. The £5m currently on the table is merely the first instalment of three. |  |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 18:57 - Aug 26 with 2680 views | raynor94 |
I'm sure I just heard on the Welsh news, if they don't pay up, they will be banned from signing anyone for 3 transfer windows | |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 19:30 - Aug 26 with 2606 views | pencoedjack |
| PAY UP > SALA on 18:23 - Aug 26 by Dr_Winston |
Given the amount of mocking that has come our way from our six fingered bretheren over the previous financial issues we've faced I'm deeply enjoying this.
The amount that they're trying to screw Nantes out of works out at around ten times our total debts both times combined. The £5m currently on the table is merely the first instalment of three. |
Maybe we should have buckets at the ground to do a collection for them, every Bassey I’ve ever met reckons they threw in the one they had at NP. |  | | |
| PAY UP > SALA on 19:48 - Aug 26 with 2568 views | pencoedjack |
| PAY UP > SALA on 18:23 - Aug 26 by Dr_Winston |
Given the amount of mocking that has come our way from our six fingered bretheren over the previous financial issues we've faced I'm deeply enjoying this.
The amount that they're trying to screw Nantes out of works out at around ten times our total debts both times combined. The £5m currently on the table is merely the first instalment of three. |
Apparently they are going to counter sue & get 200 million.
https://www.cardiffcityforum.c | | | |
| PAY UP > SALA on 20:14 - Aug 26 with 2513 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Correct me if I’m wrong but legally speaking Emiliano Sala the man is not and never was the asset. It is illegal to trade in human beings. The contractual agreement and the moneys owed was for the transfer of his registration from Nantes to Cardiff City and registration with the leagues etc. That agreement had been completed at the time of the horrible tragedy. To use an analogy if Christian Eriksen had not survived his heart attack at the euros and inter still owed Tottenham installments for the transfer they would still have to pay it in full. | |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 20:33 - Aug 26 with 2488 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Two main issues here the way I see it.
a) Cardiff city did not do anything wrong themselves with respect to the death. (The agent doing the work was father of the official agent as reported.) Cardiff offered the player a commercial flight.
b) Cardiff city were insured presumably and insurance premium are paid exactly for out of the blue disasters like this.
Cardiff tested the water and tried to get out of paying and lost their case so they have to pay. They will seek to go after the estates of those involved in the accident who were also insured. The plane owner the agent the aviation firm perhaps.
It is business and all things will come out of the wash when smart insurance people have a coffee around a table and assess blame. UK is a world leader in insurance and this is a high profile case. The carbon monoxide issue and the condition of the airplane service history etc should come under investigation too.
People relishing this grim work are worthy of scorn. |  |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 20:41 - Aug 26 with 2461 views | Sirjohnalot |
| PAY UP > SALA on 20:33 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Two main issues here the way I see it.
a) Cardiff city did not do anything wrong themselves with respect to the death. (The agent doing the work was father of the official agent as reported.) Cardiff offered the player a commercial flight.
b) Cardiff city were insured presumably and insurance premium are paid exactly for out of the blue disasters like this.
Cardiff tested the water and tried to get out of paying and lost their case so they have to pay. They will seek to go after the estates of those involved in the accident who were also insured. The plane owner the agent the aviation firm perhaps.
It is business and all things will come out of the wash when smart insurance people have a coffee around a table and assess blame. UK is a world leader in insurance and this is a high profile case. The carbon monoxide issue and the condition of the airplane service history etc should come under investigation too.
People relishing this grim work are worthy of scorn. |
Agree, terrible tragedy. Do hope the insurance covers them |  | | |
| PAY UP > SALA on 20:58 - Aug 26 with 2423 views | GixerJack |
Some clown on there said that Nantes should give the £5mil to Sala’s family.
Why would Nantes give money to the family of a player they had sold to Cardiff? |  | | |
| PAY UP > SALA on 21:06 - Aug 26 with 2409 views | bennytheblue |
| PAY UP > SALA on 16:01 - Aug 26 by KeithHaynes |
It is what it is, I can’t see any club acting differently. |
Exactly….the world of football is rotten to the core |  | | |
| PAY UP > SALA on 21:12 - Aug 26 with 2380 views | KeithHaynes |
| PAY UP > SALA on 21:06 - Aug 26 by bennytheblue |
Exactly….the world of football is rotten to the core |
Long gone are the days of a few beers and a train to the game with very good mates. That was football for me mate, nowadays it really doesn’t mean that much. We do continue though for whatever reason. | |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 21:13 - Aug 26 with 2375 views | guthrieintherain |
| PAY UP > SALA on 20:14 - Aug 26 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Correct me if I’m wrong but legally speaking Emiliano Sala the man is not and never was the asset. It is illegal to trade in human beings. The contractual agreement and the moneys owed was for the transfer of his registration from Nantes to Cardiff City and registration with the leagues etc. That agreement had been completed at the time of the horrible tragedy. To use an analogy if Christian Eriksen had not survived his heart attack at the euros and inter still owed Tottenham installments for the transfer they would still have to pay it in full. |
A billionaire mind why not show some class and pay the money straight away. | |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 21:19 - Aug 26 with 2359 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| PAY UP > SALA on 20:33 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Two main issues here the way I see it.
a) Cardiff city did not do anything wrong themselves with respect to the death. (The agent doing the work was father of the official agent as reported.) Cardiff offered the player a commercial flight.
b) Cardiff city were insured presumably and insurance premium are paid exactly for out of the blue disasters like this.
Cardiff tested the water and tried to get out of paying and lost their case so they have to pay. They will seek to go after the estates of those involved in the accident who were also insured. The plane owner the agent the aviation firm perhaps.
It is business and all things will come out of the wash when smart insurance people have a coffee around a table and assess blame. UK is a world leader in insurance and this is a high profile case. The carbon monoxide issue and the condition of the airplane service history etc should come under investigation too.
People relishing this grim work are worthy of scorn. |
Insurance would cover the wages in the event of injury/death etc but not the transfer fee. A player dying is no different to a player breaking his leg or doing his cruciates in this context. The transfer of the players registration had already been completed. The fee and the payments are agreed and signed for. Why would insurance cover the transfer fee? | |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 21:32 - Aug 26 with 2323 views | GixerJack |
| PAY UP > SALA on 21:19 - Aug 26 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Insurance would cover the wages in the event of injury/death etc but not the transfer fee. A player dying is no different to a player breaking his leg or doing his cruciates in this context. The transfer of the players registration had already been completed. The fee and the payments are agreed and signed for. Why would insurance cover the transfer fee? |
As soon as the transfer was completed he became an asset “owned” the club. As such an asset worth £15 mill should have been insured. | | | |
| PAY UP > SALA on 21:32 - Aug 26 with 2318 views | Jack11 |
Controversially and I’m prepared to get down arrowed here but I think this is a unique situation and UEFA should cover it. Cardiff haven’t benefitted in any way. It’s something that will hopefully never happen to another player and it’s a really difficult case.
Obviously terrible for his poor family and Cardiff have conducted themselves badly. Stick by what I’ve said though and it’s different from signing a player and him having a career ending injury in training or first game.
Cardiff never received him. Yes he had signed but it’s more nuanced than that in reality. Nantes did sell him and should get their money but I honestly don’t think it should come from Cardiff. I think the authorities should show leadership and cover it. | | | |
| PAY UP > SALA on 21:36 - Aug 26 with 2296 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Roathie spot on again.  |  |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 21:53 - Aug 26 with 2243 views | Dr_Parnassus |
God they are embarrassing, just had a read on their forum now. Again that Paul Keevil guy who was claiming they were going to win is back again now saying that they will win if they sue Nantes for £200m for loss of earning due to relegation from the EPL.
Someone has cited the West Ham case due to Tevez scoring and as a result relegating another club.
The difference is one is tangible and provable, Tevez DID score. The other is not and cannot be proven, Sala may have been a flop and made the team even worse.
All someone would have to do is bring forth some Ligue 1 flops who went to the Premier League and it’s case over.
The straw clutching going on over there is hilarious. | |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 21:54 - Aug 26 with 2246 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| PAY UP > SALA on 21:19 - Aug 26 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Insurance would cover the wages in the event of injury/death etc but not the transfer fee. A player dying is no different to a player breaking his leg or doing his cruciates in this context. The transfer of the players registration had already been completed. The fee and the payments are agreed and signed for. Why would insurance cover the transfer fee? |
I am not an insurance expert. The players contract valuation is an insurable aspect I would imagine. This is the type of incident insurance companies were formed to resolve and make money out of.
I am suggesting that this horrible incident occurred with all parties including the ones deemed to be at fault, paying insurance premiums. Cardiff paid insurance for players and death is usually one of those things covered. If there is a fault established then the insurers can do their business, Look at all the facts and make a judgement. UK are world leaders at this.
Cardiff tried to avoid going the insurance route and will now have to. FIFA i would imagine would allow Cardiff time to settle their insurance claims. Even Nantes were insured for bad debts perhaps and may have to accept less for a final settlement.
Reasonable chaps sharing the pain. That tanker shut the Suez canal was sorted costing billions and no one went out of business as far as I know. | |
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| PAY UP > SALA on 21:57 - Aug 26 with 2235 views | Dr_Parnassus |
He wasn’t insured.
- Cardiff were arguing he wasn’t their player. You can’t insure a player that isn’t yours. If they insured him this wouldn’t have gone to court.
- Nantes sold him. He isn’t insured by them from the moment he is no longer their player. | |
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