| A question of loans. 15:16 - Oct 16 with 1712 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Burney have elite loans.
Harwood Bellis PLAYED Man cIty
Maatsen PLAYED Chelsea
Beyer PLAYED Germany u21 BMG
Tella PLAYED Southampton
Devisoglu OUT Brentford
Swansea
Sorinola SUBBED Off
Stevens SUBBED ON
Cundle DID NOT PLAY
Oko-Flex DID NOT PLAY
Neither Soirola nor Stevens are elite players. Burnleys loan players were effective. Swansea's were not.
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| A question of loans. on 15:28 - Oct 16 with 1694 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s not just loans. The right back situation has also been farcical. We knew Connor Roberts was leaving. We knew laird and Christie were only short term. Yet here we are almost a year/18 months later without a recognised right sided defender (unless you include KN and he plays in the middle now) and forced into playing a centre back or a left back at right wing back. |  |
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| A question of loans. on 15:55 - Oct 16 with 1664 views | Sirjohnalot |
| A question of loans. on 15:28 - Oct 16 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s not just loans. The right back situation has also been farcical. We knew Connor Roberts was leaving. We knew laird and Christie were only short term. Yet here we are almost a year/18 months later without a recognised right sided defender (unless you include KN and he plays in the middle now) and forced into playing a centre back or a left back at right wing back. |
I've only just twigged the 'Narbereth' thing.. Lyrical genius |  | | |
| A question of loans. on 16:04 - Oct 16 with 1646 views | KeithHaynes |
| A question of loans. on 15:55 - Oct 16 by Sirjohnalot |
I've only just twigged the 'Narbereth' thing.. Lyrical genius |
Seriously 😂😂😂😂 😉 |  |
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| A question of loans. on 16:43 - Oct 16 with 1620 views | Boundy |
| A question of loans. on 15:55 - Oct 16 by Sirjohnalot |
I've only just twigged the 'Narbereth' thing.. Lyrical genius |
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| A question of loans. on 16:57 - Oct 16 with 1612 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| A question of loans. on 15:55 - Oct 16 by Sirjohnalot |
I've only just twigged the 'Narbereth' thing.. Lyrical genius |
Do you switch off that razor sharp analytical brain when you leave work to save the batteries or something? | |
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| A question of loans. on 17:03 - Oct 16 with 1606 views | KeithHaynes |
Sir John is having a day off, let him be 😉
Well, when I say a day off … | |
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| A question of loans. on 17:05 - Oct 16 with 1600 views | Treforys_Jack |
| A question of loans. on 16:57 - Oct 16 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Do you switch off that razor sharp analytical brain when you leave work to save the batteries or something? |
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| A question of loans. on 17:28 - Oct 16 with 1562 views | builthjack |
| A question of loans. on 15:55 - Oct 16 by Sirjohnalot |
I've only just twigged the 'Narbereth' thing.. Lyrical genius |
Omg John. Now you need to work on a few others. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| A question of loans. on 18:33 - Oct 16 with 1524 views | KeithHaynes |
| A question of loans. on 17:28 - Oct 16 by builthjack |
Omg John. Now you need to work on a few others. |
What is an elite loan ? | |
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| A question of loans. on 18:34 - Oct 16 with 1522 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
“I’ve only just twigged your honour. That’s not your real hair!”
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| A question of loans. on 18:44 - Oct 16 with 1495 views | builthjack |
| A question of loans. on 18:33 - Oct 16 by KeithHaynes |
What is an elite loan ? |
Anything over £20 | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| A question of loans. on 20:18 - Oct 16 with 1441 views | Catullus |
| A question of loans. on 18:33 - Oct 16 by KeithHaynes |
What is an elite loan ? |
An un-used ultra thin, ultra soft condom? I got one if you need one, may not be un-used! | |
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| A question of loans. on 20:23 - Oct 16 with 1436 views | Sirjohnalot |
| A question of loans. on 17:03 - Oct 16 by KeithHaynes |
Sir John is having a day off, let him be 😉
Well, when I say a day off … |
Wonderful irony, I’m prosecuting a case in Burnley Crown Court tomorrow, swear I’ll try to be fair, it will definitely let them see my Swansea cuff links before I open it | | | |
| A question of loans. on 20:49 - Oct 16 with 1397 views | Dr_Winston |
Points deducted for not using the obvious thread title "Game of Loans". |  |
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| A question of loans. on 11:23 - Oct 17 with 1215 views | glanmORJa_k |
| A question of loans. on 15:28 - Oct 16 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s not just loans. The right back situation has also been farcical. We knew Connor Roberts was leaving. We knew laird and Christie were only short term. Yet here we are almost a year/18 months later without a recognised right sided defender (unless you include KN and he plays in the middle now) and forced into playing a centre back or a left back at right wing back. |
I find it quite puzzling for those that compare our loans to those of Burnley's. Whatever cash we had in pre-season was splashed on Darling and Wood and perhaps criticism should be aimed at paying wages way above our salary limits for a crocked Welsh International - Joey. Whereas para payments have kicked in for Burnley besides some astute financial offloading of players. We were in that position once but we are now shopping in a level below the Pound shop for young professionals who have just graduated from a PL's U21 set-up.
I fear for the time when we are unable to offload a player for around £10M every summer and what market our recruitment will be based in. | | | |
| A question of loans. on 11:43 - Oct 17 with 1196 views | KeithHaynes |
| A question of loans. on 11:23 - Oct 17 by glanmORJa_k |
I find it quite puzzling for those that compare our loans to those of Burnley's. Whatever cash we had in pre-season was splashed on Darling and Wood and perhaps criticism should be aimed at paying wages way above our salary limits for a crocked Welsh International - Joey. Whereas para payments have kicked in for Burnley besides some astute financial offloading of players. We were in that position once but we are now shopping in a level below the Pound shop for young professionals who have just graduated from a PL's U21 set-up.
I fear for the time when we are unable to offload a player for around £10M every summer and what market our recruitment will be based in. |
The problem with Joe is Martin has already admitted the priority is to get him fit for Wales, that’s two fold obviously the huge cash incentive for the club which no doubt will cover his wages since he’s been with us easily. And of course Joe’s desire to be fit to play in a World Cup.
And of course another huge windfall if Cabango goes. Hopefully Saturday for him was a blip. | |
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| A question of loans. on 12:47 - Oct 17 with 1154 views | glanmORJa_k |
| A question of loans. on 11:43 - Oct 17 by KeithHaynes |
The problem with Joe is Martin has already admitted the priority is to get him fit for Wales, that’s two fold obviously the huge cash incentive for the club which no doubt will cover his wages since he’s been with us easily. And of course Joe’s desire to be fit to play in a World Cup.
And of course another huge windfall if Cabango goes. Hopefully Saturday for him was a blip. |
I think you are missing the point I was trying to make. Are we all of a sudden making financial decisions as far as recruitment is concerned as to what we will receive for players included in the Wales final squad in Qatar, as against recruiting two promising League One footballers for the same outlay as Joey’s signing on fee and salary. Players who would be certain starters in the first team rather than sign a player that was doubtful to start the season let alone strengthen the squad.
A club can’t legislate for players picking up injuries and it also can’t legislate for believing players like Cabango, Piroe and Obafemi will still be in the same market place as they were before the last window closed. If we start believing in that thought process of recruitment then the club has failed to take into consideration what happened when we were relegated from the PL and almost giving away many of our first team squad just to get them off the wage bill. | | | |
| A question of loans. on 13:39 - Oct 17 with 1124 views | BryanSwan |
It's all well and good saying certain players aren't quite up to scratch, but we cannot compete in the loan market at that level. We did when we came down and we brought in "quality" loan players costing millions, we cannot afford that currently. | |
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| A question of loans. on 13:50 - Oct 17 with 1108 views | jack247 |
| A question of loans. on 12:47 - Oct 17 by glanmORJa_k |
I think you are missing the point I was trying to make. Are we all of a sudden making financial decisions as far as recruitment is concerned as to what we will receive for players included in the Wales final squad in Qatar, as against recruiting two promising League One footballers for the same outlay as Joey’s signing on fee and salary. Players who would be certain starters in the first team rather than sign a player that was doubtful to start the season let alone strengthen the squad.
A club can’t legislate for players picking up injuries and it also can’t legislate for believing players like Cabango, Piroe and Obafemi will still be in the same market place as they were before the last window closed. If we start believing in that thought process of recruitment then the club has failed to take into consideration what happened when we were relegated from the PL and almost giving away many of our first team squad just to get them off the wage bill. |
It’s not even an open secret that we need to sell a star player most seasons to make ends meet.
When a club has that mindset/financial necessity, they are absolutely going to look at other revenue streams. If signing Joe and cotton wooling him until Christmas makes them money, they are going to do it.
I do think a few have written him off too early. He played more or less every game for Stoke last season, which indicates his fitness was fine and he was justifying a place in their starting eleven. | | | |
| A question of loans. on 20:25 - Oct 17 with 995 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Loans are relatively cheap. A way to get a top quality player on the cheap.
Burnley had 4 and played for a combined 327 minutes
Swansea had two for a total 90 minutes. Two played 0 minutes.
Burnley won 4-0. Cundle and Oxo Flex look pretty good in their rare appearances. | |
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| A question of loans. on 21:13 - Oct 17 with 964 views | BryanSwan |
| A question of loans. on 20:25 - Oct 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Loans are relatively cheap. A way to get a top quality player on the cheap.
Burnley had 4 and played for a combined 327 minutes
Swansea had two for a total 90 minutes. Two played 0 minutes.
Burnley won 4-0. Cundle and Oxo Flex look pretty good in their rare appearances. |
Relative in comparison to what though? Buying that quality of player.
I'd expect those loans have cost Burnley a good few million, can we afford to throw that sort of money on assets that won't be ours?
Look at our expensive loans, Gallagher, Guehi, Woodman, Brewster etc. Millions spent and it got us nowhere. | |
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| A question of loans. on 22:28 - Oct 17 with 930 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| A question of loans. on 21:13 - Oct 17 by BryanSwan |
Relative in comparison to what though? Buying that quality of player.
I'd expect those loans have cost Burnley a good few million, can we afford to throw that sort of money on assets that won't be ours?
Look at our expensive loans, Gallagher, Guehi, Woodman, Brewster etc. Millions spent and it got us nowhere. |
Swansea cannot afford to buy Cundle. It is a lot cheaper to have player like Cundle on loan each season. Loan players can either be great or useless. Swansea payed a lot presumably for Burns and Williams. They did not play and were poor.
Harewood Bellis and Meyer are much better loans it seems and blunted Piroe and Obafemi comfortably. Tella caused havoc.
It is a matter of careful selection not cash I suspect. Swansea has to do better or perhaps Burnley' manager trusts loans players more than Martin does. Swansea have gone again for a very young player Stevens (19) who is not playing much. Swansea for example could have pooled it resources and got Tella instead of Stevens, OkoFlex and Cundle.
Guehi probably covered his fee with the extra play off game receipts including a big crowd at Wembley plus TV fees. | |
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| A question of loans. on 11:42 - Oct 18 with 869 views | krunchykarrot |
| A question of loans. on 21:13 - Oct 17 by BryanSwan |
Relative in comparison to what though? Buying that quality of player.
I'd expect those loans have cost Burnley a good few million, can we afford to throw that sort of money on assets that won't be ours?
Look at our expensive loans, Gallagher, Guehi, Woodman, Brewster etc. Millions spent and it got us nowhere. |
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