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Afghanistan 18:07 - Dec 20 with 1653 viewsmax936

The Taliban have banned women from going to universities now, yet another mess the west has left, they cause chaos wherever they go to make a "difference" shocking.

All those lives lost on both sides and for what, Iraq the same, I think we wouldn't have the Syrian problem if Cowboy Bush and his side kick Blair hadn't lied.

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Afghanistan on 18:21 - Dec 20 with 937 viewsonehunglow

Religious poison Steve
It drives this hate

Mankind is so vulnerable

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Afghanistan on 18:28 - Dec 20 with 927 viewsBoundy

Now there a surprise ,not.and yes the west has a lot to answer for then again hasn't all major powers regardless of their global position

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Afghanistan on 18:32 - Dec 20 with 923 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan on 18:28 - Dec 20 by Boundy

Now there a surprise ,not.and yes the west has a lot to answer for then again hasn't all major powers regardless of their global position


Maybe we should accept other countries have different cultures and religious practices and let them get on with it.
We shouldn’t ever have tried to change the world

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Afghanistan on 18:37 - Dec 20 with 921 viewsBoundy

Afghanistan on 18:32 - Dec 20 by onehunglow

Maybe we should accept other countries have different cultures and religious practices and let them get on with it.
We shouldn’t ever have tried to change the world


On the face of it, for Afghanistan, the changes the west brought them albeit temporarily was for the betterment for everyone but we couldn't sustain it ,now the country's descended back into chaos and withit making the world less secure (if that could ever be possible)

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Afghanistan on 18:49 - Dec 20 with 916 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan on 18:37 - Dec 20 by Boundy

On the face of it, for Afghanistan, the changes the west brought them albeit temporarily was for the betterment for everyone but we couldn't sustain it ,now the country's descended back into chaos and withit making the world less secure (if that could ever be possible)


It’s like us trying to instill democracy into countries to which is in anathema

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Afghanistan on 09:27 - Dec 21 with 845 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan on 18:49 - Dec 20 by onehunglow

It’s like us trying to instill democracy into countries to which is in anathema


Democracy is not for everyone. Afghanis in general simply don't get it.The only way to buy their loyalty is to pay them more than the next invader.The British learned that lesson in the 19th century
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Afghanistan on 09:42 - Dec 21 with 851 viewsCountyJim

Afghanistan on 18:21 - Dec 20 by onehunglow

Religious poison Steve
It drives this hate

Mankind is so vulnerable


Absolute b****** it's man not religion that's the problem
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Afghanistan on 09:44 - Dec 21 with 849 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan on 09:42 - Dec 21 by CountyJim

Absolute b****** it's man not religion that's the problem


Absolutely wrong Jim.
Religion feeds man s insecurities
It’s a long deep subject and time is too short

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Afghanistan on 09:49 - Dec 21 with 838 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan on 09:44 - Dec 21 by onehunglow

Absolutely wrong Jim.
Religion feeds man s insecurities
It’s a long deep subject and time is too short


Religion didn't force the US and allies to invade Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, ww1 , ww2, or even the conflict in the Ukraine. Religion has nothing to do with the vast majority of wars
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Afghanistan on 09:59 - Dec 21 with 840 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Biden's hasty decision to withdraw was criticised at the time for exactly these reasons. The Afghans were abandoned.

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Afghanistan on 10:04 - Dec 21 with 833 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan on 09:59 - Dec 21 by JACKMANANDBOY

Biden's hasty decision to withdraw was criticised at the time for exactly these reasons. The Afghans were abandoned.


My point is that changing a whole country s mindset is almost impossible. Taliban are driven by what their religion tells them evidencing perfectly the dangers of religion .Replies from pantheists like Jim show our land is also affected ,as our most if not all countries
That’s todays nonsense from me anyway

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Afghanistan on 10:44 - Dec 21 with 798 viewsSirjohnalot

Afghanistan on 09:44 - Dec 21 by onehunglow

Absolutely wrong Jim.
Religion feeds man s insecurities
It’s a long deep subject and time is too short


Jim’s right. If it wasn’t for religion, these people would find another excuse. I’m not religious but it helps a lot of people and others do a great deal of good in its name. Just dropped something off at our local foodbank, all staffed by the local church. (Local Muslims, Sikhs all do similar )
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Afghanistan on 11:01 - Dec 21 with 792 viewsCountyJim

Afghanistan on 10:44 - Dec 21 by Sirjohnalot

Jim’s right. If it wasn’t for religion, these people would find another excuse. I’m not religious but it helps a lot of people and others do a great deal of good in its name. Just dropped something off at our local foodbank, all staffed by the local church. (Local Muslims, Sikhs all do similar )


Exactly they say they follow a religion but in truth they don't
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Afghanistan on 11:15 - Dec 21 with 773 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Afghanistan on 11:01 - Dec 21 by CountyJim

Exactly they say they follow a religion but in truth they don't


Some use it as a justification, as it's written down that makes the justification easy. I'll always remember Blair and Bush saying they had "god on their side" before turning the Middle East upside down.

I think you'll find that the Taliban believe that they are following their religion to the letter.
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Afghanistan on 11:29 - Dec 21 with 770 viewsBoundy

Afghanistan on 11:01 - Dec 21 by CountyJim

Exactly they say they follow a religion but in truth they don't


Whos truth yours ? their laws are based on their interpretation of the Koran , a religious document written by religious scholars which is followed by many of its country's citizens .
I believe you're a catholic , do you believe that abortion is a sin ? and if yes then you're following a religion which not long ago was the basis of law in many parts of the world , in fact In the Catholic Church, canon law is the system of laws and legal principles made and enforced by the church's hierarchical authorities to regulate its external organization and GOVERNMENT in to order and direct the activities of Catholics toward the mission of the church. Obey the religion then you're obeying the law & vice versa . Its just you don't approve of their religion but defend yours ,take that to the extreme and that's exactly how wars start .

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Afghanistan on 14:04 - Dec 21 with 701 viewsFlashberryjack

Afghanistan on 11:29 - Dec 21 by Boundy

Whos truth yours ? their laws are based on their interpretation of the Koran , a religious document written by religious scholars which is followed by many of its country's citizens .
I believe you're a catholic , do you believe that abortion is a sin ? and if yes then you're following a religion which not long ago was the basis of law in many parts of the world , in fact In the Catholic Church, canon law is the system of laws and legal principles made and enforced by the church's hierarchical authorities to regulate its external organization and GOVERNMENT in to order and direct the activities of Catholics toward the mission of the church. Obey the religion then you're obeying the law & vice versa . Its just you don't approve of their religion but defend yours ,take that to the extreme and that's exactly how wars start .


Most religions have evolved, unfortunately, the current Muslim regime in Afghanistan interpretation of the Koran is stuck in the middle ages.

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Afghanistan on 14:27 - Dec 21 with 683 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan on 09:59 - Dec 21 by JACKMANANDBOY

Biden's hasty decision to withdraw was criticised at the time for exactly these reasons. The Afghans were abandoned.


It was Trumps decision to withdraw, his admin negotiated with the Taliban, but then he got kicked out by the electorate
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Afghanistan on 14:28 - Dec 21 with 689 viewsBoundy

Afghanistan on 14:04 - Dec 21 by Flashberryjack

Most religions have evolved, unfortunately, the current Muslim regime in Afghanistan interpretation of the Koran is stuck in the middle ages.


I agree , it's taken the Catholic church until the 21st Century to allow grudgingly allow abortions , some evolvement takes longer than others so it would seem

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Afghanistan on 14:37 - Dec 21 with 678 viewspencoedjack

I believe in a country that allows murderers & rapists to have pretty lenient jail sentences & where women do not feel safe to walk the streets after dark we really are in no position to preach to other countries.

Lets get our own house in order 1st.
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Afghanistan on 14:42 - Dec 21 with 669 viewsFlashberryjack

Afghanistan on 14:28 - Dec 21 by Boundy

I agree , it's taken the Catholic church until the 21st Century to allow grudgingly allow abortions , some evolvement takes longer than others so it would seem


At least the Catholic church is moving forward, albeit slowly.

Whilst the Taliban are going in the opposite directions.

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Afghanistan on 14:45 - Dec 21 with 668 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan on 10:44 - Dec 21 by Sirjohnalot

Jim’s right. If it wasn’t for religion, these people would find another excuse. I’m not religious but it helps a lot of people and others do a great deal of good in its name. Just dropped something off at our local foodbank, all staffed by the local church. (Local Muslims, Sikhs all do similar )


No he is not.
Are you seriously suggesting the genocide carried out over millennia has not the taint of religion within.

Religion is there to encapsulate mankind and to ensure insecurity considering death

Everlasting life John.

Unborn babies souls in limbo.

Purgatory the waiting room.

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Afghanistan on 14:49 - Dec 21 with 665 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan on 14:28 - Dec 21 by Boundy

I agree , it's taken the Catholic church until the 21st Century to allow grudgingly allow abortions , some evolvement takes longer than others so it would seem


Let’s not forget the Catholic state of Ireland sponsoring child abuse over decades
Babies taken away by nuns
Priests treating altar boys as sex toys
All this and preying on the vulnerable while they pray to Mary.
Praying to Mary alone and not Jesus is heresy to practising baptists for whom everlasting life comes only with belief that Jesus died for our sins ,including babies.
Huguenots were slaughtered over this very interpretation of the New Testament
Who s next ?

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Afghanistan on 14:54 - Dec 21 with 665 viewspencoedjack

Afghanistan on 14:49 - Dec 21 by onehunglow

Let’s not forget the Catholic state of Ireland sponsoring child abuse over decades
Babies taken away by nuns
Priests treating altar boys as sex toys
All this and preying on the vulnerable while they pray to Mary.
Praying to Mary alone and not Jesus is heresy to practising baptists for whom everlasting life comes only with belief that Jesus died for our sins ,including babies.
Huguenots were slaughtered over this very interpretation of the New Testament
Who s next ?


Not a fan of Catholics?
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Afghanistan on 15:08 - Dec 21 with 648 viewsBoundy

Afghanistan on 14:54 - Dec 21 by pencoedjack

Not a fan of Catholics?


As painful for some it maybe but probably just saying it as it is

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Afghanistan on 15:42 - Dec 21 with 627 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan on 14:54 - Dec 21 by pencoedjack

Not a fan of Catholics?


Stating facts mate
It’s in the scriptures.
It’s how it is interpreted.
Try being raised in a fundamentalist welsh baptist household. Painful,trust me.

Religion really is the most corrosive element of life which mankind has taken on to assuage his insecurity and how he is unable to grasp the fact that when you die,that is it.

Everlasting life is what is preached . Think on it

It takes some doing and not all have the objective intelligence lot do so although many are crippled by a bringing up with the threat of an angry God looking down. We actually teach this fear with our very youngest children . Imagine being told if you die and don’t believe your soul will be cast to the four strong winds of hell.This is the salvation that is preached so we can overcome death as did Jesus.

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