| Pato 20:50 - May 1 with 9712 views | builthjack |
I am sure that I saw on here a few days ago that he was refusing to train and had thrown a wobbly.
Fake news . |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Pato on 20:52 - May 1 with 2996 views | KeithHaynes |
Def not on here, it’s not true. |  |
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| Pato on 20:57 - May 1 with 2981 views | builthjack |
| Pato on 20:52 - May 1 by KeithHaynes |
Def not on here, it’s not true. |
Seebthe matchday thread. The good Dr put it on. I thought I had seen it somewhere. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Pato on 21:21 - May 1 with 2929 views | KeithHaynes |
| Pato on 20:57 - May 1 by builthjack |
Seebthe matchday thread. The good Dr put it on. I thought I had seen it somewhere. |
Ah, apologies then, if he has it in good authority then all good, but I have to say I would have thought it would have found it’s way to certain people by now. Could be a reaction to Naughton getting a contract and he is yet to get one. If he is playing games again then bin him. | |
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| Pato on 21:24 - May 1 with 2916 views | vetchonian |
| Pato on 20:52 - May 1 by KeithHaynes |
Def not on here, it’s not true. |
apparently Keith a poster does not agree that this sites stories give the facts
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Someone attached a story from this site that Piroe was a Cooper signing, that doesn't prove anything" |  |
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| Pato on 21:29 - May 1 with 2903 views | builthjack |
| Pato on 21:21 - May 1 by KeithHaynes |
Ah, apologies then, if he has it in good authority then all good, but I have to say I would have thought it would have found it’s way to certain people by now. Could be a reaction to Naughton getting a contract and he is yet to get one. If he is playing games again then bin him. |
I couldn't see Russ including him in a matchday squad if he had refused to train. It wouldn't happen. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Pato on 21:38 - May 1 with 2889 views | magicdaps10 |
| Pato on 21:24 - May 1 by vetchonian |
apparently Keith a poster does not agree that this sites stories give the facts
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Someone attached a story from this site that Piroe was a Cooper signing, that doesn't prove anything" |
Yeah that was me, Keith will tell you that he or the site is not always correct.... No secret there.
I would hope that you are not suggesting I am making out this is done intentionally!?
I can assure you that I am not, I understand not all stories told are true but I can assure you that Cooper did not want Piroe to replace Ayew. |  |
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| Pato on 21:41 - May 1 with 2882 views | vetchonian |
| Pato on 21:38 - May 1 by magicdaps10 |
Yeah that was me, Keith will tell you that he or the site is not always correct.... No secret there.
I would hope that you are not suggesting I am making out this is done intentionally!?
I can assure you that I am not, I understand not all stories told are true but I can assure you that Cooper did not want Piroe to replace Ayew. |
how are you so sure? | |
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| Pato on 21:48 - May 1 with 2869 views | magicdaps10 |
| Pato on 21:41 - May 1 by vetchonian |
how are you so sure? |
Because its the truth.
If you asked me if Piroe was earmarked by Cooper then I couldn't tell you, he might well have been but he did not want him here as Ayews replacement as he was signed for. | |
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| Pato on 21:50 - May 1 with 2849 views | vetchonian |
| Pato on 21:48 - May 1 by magicdaps10 |
Because its the truth.
If you asked me if Piroe was earmarked by Cooper then I couldn't tell you, he might well have been but he did not want him here as Ayews replacement as he was signed for. |
your evidence? | |
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| Pato on 21:56 - May 1 with 2839 views | magicdaps10 |
My word your honor.
How can I supply evidence from what I was told by someone who is involved in the club!?
I wouldn't like to name names but it's one of the main sponsors. | |
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| Pato on 22:17 - May 1 with 2809 views | Whiterockin |
| Pato on 21:21 - May 1 by KeithHaynes |
Ah, apologies then, if he has it in good authority then all good, but I have to say I would have thought it would have found it’s way to certain people by now. Could be a reaction to Naughton getting a contract and he is yet to get one. If he is playing games again then bin him. |
I wouldn't draw conclusions on one posters hearsay. |  | | |
| Pato on 22:37 - May 1 with 2767 views | vetchonian |
| Pato on 21:56 - May 1 by magicdaps10 |
My word your honor.
How can I supply evidence from what I was told by someone who is involved in the club!?
I wouldn't like to name names but it's one of the main sponsors. |
so no one actually involved with the management just on the fringes....let me tell you in my life I gave been involved with sponsorship at serious levels it didn't mean we got to know what was really happening... | |
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| Pato on 02:12 - May 2 with 2634 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Yes Pato throwing another strop. I will hear more in the coming week to see if that is resolved, but I doubt it as it was a rather large one. Agent been down for the last few weeks. He then stopped training and was not in the squad for a couple of games, and of course dumped on the bench yesterday. My source is impeccable, but I’m happy for certain individuals not to believe me. Standard fare. Dr P doesn’t do fake news. |  |
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| Pato on 02:15 - May 2 with 2632 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Same source as the Pato incident told me that Piroe was certainly earmarked to come in by Cooper. He also wanted Obafemi.
Both proved to be extremely attainable. | |
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| Pato on 09:55 - May 2 with 2506 views | magicdaps10 |
| Pato on 02:12 - May 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yes Pato throwing another strop. I will hear more in the coming week to see if that is resolved, but I doubt it as it was a rather large one. Agent been down for the last few weeks. He then stopped training and was not in the squad for a couple of games, and of course dumped on the bench yesterday. My source is impeccable, but I’m happy for certain individuals not to believe me. Standard fare. Dr P doesn’t do fake news. |
Seems like you and I are in the same category, they will just have to take our word for it ir not.
I can't comment that Piroe was earmarked by Cooper but I can certainly say that how/why Piroe was brought in was not how Cooper wanted it, as I will say again, the situation contributed to his eventual leaving. | |
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| Pato on 10:01 - May 2 with 2492 views | Dr_Winston |
It's not hard to believe that Cooper played a role in shortlisting Piroe as an option, but as we all know that Cooper was looking for the exit door even before the playoff final it's stretching credulity to its limits to suggest that he was an active participant in his eventual signing.
Personally given Brentford's ability to continue sourcing and replacing strikers allied to the fact that we signed both Piroe and Oba in the same window I'm happy to lay the lion's share of credit for both at Andy Scott's feet. |  |
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| Pato on 10:12 - May 2 with 2475 views | KeithHaynes |
It’s safe to say Coopers experiences of Piroe when with England was the catalyst for the recommendation, but of course Coopers role isn’t anything regards bringing him to the club after that. | |
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| Pato on 10:16 - May 2 with 2467 views | vetchonian |
Steve Cooper’s development connections secured Joel Piroe for Swansea City
it seems Piroe was a Cooper target...
but it's all irrelevant now.
Maybe we need to focus on Martin he has had his season of transition he will have a preseason and another window....let's see shall we | |
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| Pato on 10:16 - May 2 with 2449 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Pato on 09:55 - May 2 by magicdaps10 |
Seems like you and I are in the same category, they will just have to take our word for it ir not.
I can't comment that Piroe was earmarked by Cooper but I can certainly say that how/why Piroe was brought in was not how Cooper wanted it, as I will say again, the situation contributed to his eventual leaving. |
It really didn't.
This is first hand information from Joel and his father with regards to how they ended up here. Cooper was instrumental and kept tabs on him ever since Holland played England at the age group he was managing.
His father I think acts as his agent and was very forthcoming regarding his son and the details surrounding his transfer. He was Coopers man, that is from the horses mouth.
They were extremely friendly come the final whistle, if Forest go up - I wouldn't be at all shocked if Joel gets the chance to follow Cooper. [Post edited 2 May 2022 10:19]
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| Pato on 10:17 - May 2 with 2465 views | jasper_T |
| Pato on 10:01 - May 2 by Dr_Winston |
It's not hard to believe that Cooper played a role in shortlisting Piroe as an option, but as we all know that Cooper was looking for the exit door even before the playoff final it's stretching credulity to its limits to suggest that he was an active participant in his eventual signing.
Personally given Brentford's ability to continue sourcing and replacing strikers allied to the fact that we signed both Piroe and Oba in the same window I'm happy to lay the lion's share of credit for both at Andy Scott's feet. |
Do you give Scott the lion's share of the credit for Brentford's success in that area? Matthew Benham and Rasmus Ankerson put their approach together in 2014, Scott came on board a year later as a consultant for 18 months, then in-house as head of recruitment for 18 months before leaving for Watford (I haven't looked to see what their transfer record was like the two years he was in charge there). He was a cog in the machine for sure, and likely an important one, but their recruitment success has continued uninterrupted after he departed. Phil Giles has been director of football there since 2015 and their current head of recruitment gives him a lot of credit for the work they do. | | | |
| Pato on 10:27 - May 2 with 2424 views | Dr_Winston |
| Pato on 10:17 - May 2 by jasper_T |
Do you give Scott the lion's share of the credit for Brentford's success in that area? Matthew Benham and Rasmus Ankerson put their approach together in 2014, Scott came on board a year later as a consultant for 18 months, then in-house as head of recruitment for 18 months before leaving for Watford (I haven't looked to see what their transfer record was like the two years he was in charge there). He was a cog in the machine for sure, and likely an important one, but their recruitment success has continued uninterrupted after he departed. Phil Giles has been director of football there since 2015 and their current head of recruitment gives him a lot of credit for the work they do. |
I did not say that Scott began Brentfords approach. Nor even hinted at it.
I will say that it is unlikely that he learned or contributed nothing at Brentford. That it is probable, even likely that some of the successful approaches used there to identify suitable forwards were applied here also.
Otherwise it's a Hell of a coincidence that we suddenly find ourselves finding cheap, quality forwards not long after someone involved in the recruitment processes at a club with a reputation for finding cheap, quality forwards ends up working here. [Post edited 2 May 2022 10:29]
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| Pato on 10:55 - May 2 with 2397 views | magicdaps10 |
| Pato on 10:16 - May 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
It really didn't.
This is first hand information from Joel and his father with regards to how they ended up here. Cooper was instrumental and kept tabs on him ever since Holland played England at the age group he was managing.
His father I think acts as his agent and was very forthcoming regarding his son and the details surrounding his transfer. He was Coopers man, that is from the horses mouth.
They were extremely friendly come the final whistle, if Forest go up - I wouldn't be at all shocked if Joel gets the chance to follow Cooper. [Post edited 2 May 2022 10:19]
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Have you spoken to Joel or his father yourself or have you been told by someone who has spoken to them? | |
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| Pato on 11:01 - May 2 with 2380 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Pato on 10:55 - May 2 by magicdaps10 |
Have you spoken to Joel or his father yourself or have you been told by someone who has spoken to them? |
Both I, and a select few others (maybe even Keith if we have the same source, we may well do) have been told by someone who would know, and speaks with both Joel and his Dad first hand.
The source is impeccable. | |
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| Pato on 11:08 - May 2 with 2381 views | vetchonian |
| Pato on 10:55 - May 2 by magicdaps10 |
Have you spoken to Joel or his father yourself or have you been told by someone who has spoken to them? |
check out Sayurdays matchday thread..Keith has once again confirmed Coopers influence on Piroes recruitment | |
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| Pato on 11:29 - May 2 with 2357 views | magicdaps10 |
| Pato on 11:08 - May 2 by vetchonian |
check out Sayurdays matchday thread..Keith has once again confirmed Coopers influence on Piroes recruitment |
Not something that I want confirming Vetch, what I am stating is the actual signing of him was not requested/rubber stamped or wanted at the time by Cooper.
As I said, not saying that Piroe was not a Cooper target but he certainly didn't rubber stamp the deal that was seen by some as Ayews replacement.....Cooper was not happy that was the case and cintributed to the situation.
As I say, wouldn't disagree with what is being said but in situations like this you realise it's only one side of a story and quite often things get cherry picked.
As I said, not ruling out what is said and can see it has being truth but Cooper definetly didn't rubber stamp or push the Piroe signing through. | |
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