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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players 18th Jan 2023 11:42
The slow drip, drip feed of discontent was again evident last night after the defeat to Bristol City in the FA Cup. Having declared his frustration at the way the swans are doing business after the Sunderland game it became clearer last night. 0




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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 11:59 - Jan 18 with 2297 viewsNotLoyal

Some will struggle with this, it offers opinion, backed up with evidence and deals with facts.

OK I've changed it.
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:13 - Jan 18 with 2023 viewsguthrieintherain

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 11:59 - Jan 18 by NotLoyal

Some will struggle with this, it offers opinion, backed up with evidence and deals with facts.


Are you the site minder or something.

Seems a bit odd to put an article up with a message like that below


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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:30 - Jan 18 with 1987 viewsNotLoyal

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:13 - Jan 18 by guthrieintherain

Are you the site minder or something.

Seems a bit odd to put an article up with a message like that below



I didn’t write the story.
And yes I am 😘

OK I've changed it.
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:38 - Jan 18 with 1959 viewsguthrieintherain

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:30 - Jan 18 by NotLoyal

I didn’t write the story.
And yes I am 😘


No but it kind of puts people off from replying with a comment like that underneath.

It was the same with the poll the other day you were saying it causes confrontation.

I thought the idea of football forums was to discuss.

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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:47 - Jan 18 with 1928 viewsNotLoyal

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:38 - Jan 18 by guthrieintherain

No but it kind of puts people off from replying with a comment like that underneath.

It was the same with the poll the other day you were saying it causes confrontation.

I thought the idea of football forums was to discuss.


If it discourages people calling the hard work on here or constantly attacking people using terminology like drivel or tripe then hallelujah to that it s worked. If a person wouldn’t say it in public then don’t say it on here.

Nobody wants to read it constantly day after day.

OK I've changed it.
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:49 - Jan 18 with 1914 viewsReslovenSwan1

Martin has a strong roster in my opinion and no additions are needed. He needs to get rid of player not bring new ones in.

There are a very large pool of players available in the summer. Swansea are not strong enough to make a serious promotion push and are now out of the FA cup. The team were light up top because Cullen and Piroe did not play together.

Had Martin got the team to the top 8 I believe the US owner would have backed him.

In my opinion the "Yanks" would be incredulous at "Limey" moaning that the team lacks fire power. He has six forwards of quality available to him now. Cullen, Piroe, Patterson, Obafemi Whittaker and Joseph (if he has a recall clause).

He also has 20 year old Josh Thomas 18 year old Iwan Morgan who know where the net is.

The recruitment team should be looking to secure free out of contract player for the summer and shift malcontents.

Cooper was brutal with Asoro. I did not hear "he is a lovely guy I get on well with him". Cooper made one and only one statement. "he is not in my plans".

The solution is simple give Patterson to Coventry and sell Obafemi for £2m -£3m to to keep the lights on. Play Whittaker instead of Patterson or Cullen and do not sign anyone else.

Ogbene should be told to sit tight and reconvene in the summer. A full firing Ogbene will drive Swansea forward for 13th or so to 8th. What is the point? .

Swansea also have Piroe down to his last year in the summer and Martin he needs to persuade him to sign a new deal. If not he will only have Cullen left who he is prepared to play and who is prepared stick around and graft for him.

Martin wants an new forward. The ownership group gave him Whittaker worth around £3m. He is apparently not worthy of a place in the team ahead of Cullen. "Hello?"
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 15:11 - Jan 18 with 1869 viewsSirjohnalot

Excellent article. Don’t think there’s many more people ‘in the know ‘ than Martin
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 15:17 - Jan 18 with 1837 viewsKeithHaynes

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:38 - Jan 18 by guthrieintherain

No but it kind of puts people off from replying with a comment like that underneath.

It was the same with the poll the other day you were saying it causes confrontation.

I thought the idea of football forums was to discuss.


I think ?
He meant away from here.

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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 15:21 - Jan 18 with 1818 viewsWhiterockin

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:49 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1

Martin has a strong roster in my opinion and no additions are needed. He needs to get rid of player not bring new ones in.

There are a very large pool of players available in the summer. Swansea are not strong enough to make a serious promotion push and are now out of the FA cup. The team were light up top because Cullen and Piroe did not play together.

Had Martin got the team to the top 8 I believe the US owner would have backed him.

In my opinion the "Yanks" would be incredulous at "Limey" moaning that the team lacks fire power. He has six forwards of quality available to him now. Cullen, Piroe, Patterson, Obafemi Whittaker and Joseph (if he has a recall clause).

He also has 20 year old Josh Thomas 18 year old Iwan Morgan who know where the net is.

The recruitment team should be looking to secure free out of contract player for the summer and shift malcontents.

Cooper was brutal with Asoro. I did not hear "he is a lovely guy I get on well with him". Cooper made one and only one statement. "he is not in my plans".

The solution is simple give Patterson to Coventry and sell Obafemi for £2m -£3m to to keep the lights on. Play Whittaker instead of Patterson or Cullen and do not sign anyone else.

Ogbene should be told to sit tight and reconvene in the summer. A full firing Ogbene will drive Swansea forward for 13th or so to 8th. What is the point? .

Swansea also have Piroe down to his last year in the summer and Martin he needs to persuade him to sign a new deal. If not he will only have Cullen left who he is prepared to play and who is prepared stick around and graft for him.

Martin wants an new forward. The ownership group gave him Whittaker worth around £3m. He is apparently not worthy of a place in the team ahead of Cullen. "Hello?"
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Martin wants an new forward. The ownership group gave him Whittaker worth around £3m. He is apparently not worthy of a place in the team ahead of Cullen. "Hello?"


He is not worth around £3M and its not that he is not worthy of a place, he can't play him incase an offer comes in.
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 15:25 - Jan 18 with 1799 viewsSirjohnalot

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:30 - Jan 18 by NotLoyal

I didn’t write the story.
And yes I am 😘


That's right.
I'm the lover and he's the fighter : )
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 15:53 - Jan 18 with 1728 viewsReslovenSwan1

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 15:21 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin

Martin wants an new forward. The ownership group gave him Whittaker worth around £3m. He is apparently not worthy of a place in the team ahead of Cullen. "Hello?"


He is not worth around £3M and its not that he is not worthy of a place, he can't play him incase an offer comes in.


Swansea city have drunk the waters of a river Rangers can only dream of. Swansea city, Sir, do not need to dance to the tune the Scottish bagpipes .

Whittaker does not play because Martin choses not pick him.

Show me

a) Where Martin says wants to see Whittaker in action to help the team.

b) Where Martin has said he has been instructed by the ownership group not to play him.

Martin has chosen to exclude Patterson, Obafemi, Whittaker and Joseph. They are all capable and all under contract. It is a Martin issue. He cannot run with Seven strikers for a team with 20 games left and out of the FA cup

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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:01 - Jan 18 with 1709 viewsmax936

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 15:11 - Jan 18 by Sirjohnalot

Excellent article. Don’t think there’s many more people ‘in the know ‘ than Martin


But , but , but he's overloaded with forward players, lots and lots of money has been spent since he came here, more money than we ever spent throughout the leagues, blah blah blah ad infinitum.

1 player is away on loan, 1 player cannot play cause they want to sell him and 2 other's are heading out, that's 4 players who are not available, if my sums are correct, its a big "IF" mind that leaves 2 players who can play, my Maths has never been great though.

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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:12 - Jan 18 with 1693 viewsWhiterockin

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 15:53 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1

Swansea city have drunk the waters of a river Rangers can only dream of. Swansea city, Sir, do not need to dance to the tune the Scottish bagpipes .

Whittaker does not play because Martin choses not pick him.

Show me

a) Where Martin says wants to see Whittaker in action to help the team.

b) Where Martin has said he has been instructed by the ownership group not to play him.

Martin has chosen to exclude Patterson, Obafemi, Whittaker and Joseph. They are all capable and all under contract. It is a Martin issue. He cannot run with Seven strikers for a team with 20 games left and out of the FA cup


When Whittaker was recalled Martin said it was not for him to be sold. Once he was told that there was an offer and the club would accept it if it reached the required amount, he changed his stance to Whittaker would be sold only if there was a sizable offer or words to that effect. Therefore he was brought back to be intergreated into the squad but the owners have decided to sell if they can. Therefore they have decided he can not play. Keith could confirm or deny this.

You can argue as much as you like, these are the facts. I'm out as I will not clog up this thread.
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:15 - Jan 18 with 1690 viewsmax936

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 15:21 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin

Martin wants an new forward. The ownership group gave him Whittaker worth around £3m. He is apparently not worthy of a place in the team ahead of Cullen. "Hello?"


He is not worth around £3M and its not that he is not worthy of a place, he can't play him incase an offer comes in.


Wasting your time WR, wood for the trees spring to mind, or more pertinent is not wanting to see the wood for the trees, its the latter for me.

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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:25 - Jan 18 with 1653 viewsWhiterockin

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:15 - Jan 18 by max936

Wasting your time WR, wood for the trees spring to mind, or more pertinent is not wanting to see the wood for the trees, its the latter for me.


Valley mentality.
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:29 - Jan 18 with 1630 viewsReslovenSwan1

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:15 - Jan 18 by max936

Wasting your time WR, wood for the trees spring to mind, or more pertinent is not wanting to see the wood for the trees, its the latter for me.


Every women wants a new pair of shoes despite having quite a few in the cupboard yet to see daylight. Football fans have the same traits and the richer they are the worse it gets.

Martin has five forwards available one out on loan who probably could be recalled. Joseph a good strong runner with an eye for goal.

Our much maligned US friends were persuaded by the locals that these were good prospects and well worth the money. Martin who persuaded them to find money to indulge Patterson will not pick him or three others. Obafemi Whittaker and Joseph.

He has not been instructed who to play and who not to play. Martin is the manager. If Winter is telling him what team he can pick he should resign.

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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:36 - Jan 18 with 1604 viewsmax936

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:29 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1

Every women wants a new pair of shoes despite having quite a few in the cupboard yet to see daylight. Football fans have the same traits and the richer they are the worse it gets.

Martin has five forwards available one out on loan who probably could be recalled. Joseph a good strong runner with an eye for goal.

Our much maligned US friends were persuaded by the locals that these were good prospects and well worth the money. Martin who persuaded them to find money to indulge Patterson will not pick him or three others. Obafemi Whittaker and Joseph.

He has not been instructed who to play and who not to play. Martin is the manager. If Winter is telling him what team he can pick he should resign.


Have a night off from you usual poppycock nonsense, a pint and a bowl of pasta is calling you. Enjoy.

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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:51 - Jan 18 with 1566 viewsReslovenSwan1

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:36 - Jan 18 by max936

Have a night off from you usual poppycock nonsense, a pint and a bowl of pasta is calling you. Enjoy.


You would still be waiting to drag club hero's Jenkins and Morgan through the court if there was no stipulation that legals case s registered had to be opened within SIX YEARS.

"Welcome to the Swansea Sellout.com stadium for the match today".

"Public announcement. There is no food supplies in the bars behind the SCST stand as they have messed up the delivery again. Only out of date vegan burgers are still available however at a discount. Thankyou for your understanding".

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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:51 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1

You would still be waiting to drag club hero's Jenkins and Morgan through the court if there was no stipulation that legals case s registered had to be opened within SIX YEARS.

"Welcome to the Swansea Sellout.com stadium for the match today".

"Public announcement. There is no food supplies in the bars behind the SCST stand as they have messed up the delivery again. Only out of date vegan burgers are still available however at a discount. Thankyou for your understanding".


The pasta's in the saucepan simmering away, off you pop before it over cooks!

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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 18:48 - Jan 18 with 1403 viewsBillyChong

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 14:49 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1

Martin has a strong roster in my opinion and no additions are needed. He needs to get rid of player not bring new ones in.

There are a very large pool of players available in the summer. Swansea are not strong enough to make a serious promotion push and are now out of the FA cup. The team were light up top because Cullen and Piroe did not play together.

Had Martin got the team to the top 8 I believe the US owner would have backed him.

In my opinion the "Yanks" would be incredulous at "Limey" moaning that the team lacks fire power. He has six forwards of quality available to him now. Cullen, Piroe, Patterson, Obafemi Whittaker and Joseph (if he has a recall clause).

He also has 20 year old Josh Thomas 18 year old Iwan Morgan who know where the net is.

The recruitment team should be looking to secure free out of contract player for the summer and shift malcontents.

Cooper was brutal with Asoro. I did not hear "he is a lovely guy I get on well with him". Cooper made one and only one statement. "he is not in my plans".

The solution is simple give Patterson to Coventry and sell Obafemi for £2m -£3m to to keep the lights on. Play Whittaker instead of Patterson or Cullen and do not sign anyone else.

Ogbene should be told to sit tight and reconvene in the summer. A full firing Ogbene will drive Swansea forward for 13th or so to 8th. What is the point? .

Swansea also have Piroe down to his last year in the summer and Martin he needs to persuade him to sign a new deal. If not he will only have Cullen left who he is prepared to play and who is prepared stick around and graft for him.

Martin wants an new forward. The ownership group gave him Whittaker worth around £3m. He is apparently not worthy of a place in the team ahead of Cullen. "Hello?"
[Post edited 18 Jan 2023 15:03]


The yanks haven’t ‘given’ Martin Whittaker nor is he a £3m player.
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Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 20:36 - Jan 18 with 1296 viewsvetchonian

Russell Martin breaks ranks to again voice his concern over players on 16:29 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1

Every women wants a new pair of shoes despite having quite a few in the cupboard yet to see daylight. Football fans have the same traits and the richer they are the worse it gets.

Martin has five forwards available one out on loan who probably could be recalled. Joseph a good strong runner with an eye for goal.

Our much maligned US friends were persuaded by the locals that these were good prospects and well worth the money. Martin who persuaded them to find money to indulge Patterson will not pick him or three others. Obafemi Whittaker and Joseph.

He has not been instructed who to play and who not to play. Martin is the manager. If Winter is telling him what team he can pick he should resign.


So was this the same with Copper and Morris and Arriola?

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