| Cardiff on 20:38 - Jan 10 with 3293 views | SullutaCreturned |
Looking at the interest on that first payment and multplying by 3 then this 15 million fee is going to cost them in total around 20 million plus however much they spent arguing the case.
If what I have read is true then they spent over 10 million arguing the case so all in all they have wasted around 15 million. What a totally senseless and stupid thing.
Well they'll get the embargo lifted but can they now afford to sign anyone? |  | |  |
| Cardiff on 20:40 - Jan 10 with 3290 views | Whiterockin |
| Cardiff on 20:38 - Jan 10 by SullutaCreturned |
Looking at the interest on that first payment and multplying by 3 then this 15 million fee is going to cost them in total around 20 million plus however much they spent arguing the case.
If what I have read is true then they spent over 10 million arguing the case so all in all they have wasted around 15 million. What a totally senseless and stupid thing.
Well they'll get the embargo lifted but can they now afford to sign anyone? |
Throw in the interest to Tan, how can they meet the spending rules and not get a points deduction. |  | | |
| Cardiff on 20:51 - Jan 10 with 3233 views | pencoedjack |
| Cardiff on 20:38 - Jan 10 by SullutaCreturned |
Looking at the interest on that first payment and multplying by 3 then this 15 million fee is going to cost them in total around 20 million plus however much they spent arguing the case.
If what I have read is true then they spent over 10 million arguing the case so all in all they have wasted around 15 million. What a totally senseless and stupid thing.
Well they'll get the embargo lifted but can they now afford to sign anyone? |
Well let’s hope that the ban takes a while to be lifted.
Took them long enough to pay. |  | | |
| Cardiff on 20:52 - Jan 10 with 3226 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cardiff on 20:40 - Jan 10 by Whiterockin |
Throw in the interest to Tan, how can they meet the spending rules and not get a points deduction. |
Isn't he still pumping money in every month? How FFP hasn't already bitten I don't know. | | | |
| Cardiff on 20:54 - Jan 10 with 3215 views | builthjack |
The cheque will bounce |  |
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| Cardiff on 21:07 - Jan 10 with 3172 views | Jack11 |
Tan is many things but he’s shrewd enough to know that relegation to L1 would cost more than this 7 million, plus whatever is left to sign a player or two. | | | |
| Cardiff on 21:18 - Jan 10 with 3109 views | bennytheblue |
He will be suing someone else in the firing line soon enough….he’s expecting that money back! Crazy but true. Dodgy agent put him on that flight, dodgy agent works for Nantes fc |  | | |
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| Cardiff on 21:58 - Jan 10 with 3028 views | builthjack |
When is the next instalment? | |
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| Cardiff on 22:28 - Jan 10 with 2961 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Cardiff on 21:18 - Jan 10 by bennytheblue |
He will be suing someone else in the firing line soon enough….he’s expecting that money back! Crazy but true. Dodgy agent put him on that flight, dodgy agent works for Nantes fc |
Nothing crazy about it. Cardiff did nothing wrong.
They bought a player through a registered agent who lost their player in the bay of Biscay. Cardiff have every right to be upset if they have to carry the full can for this. Cardiff should go after the agent and FIFA or whoever registered the agent and probably have already done so.
I expect a good old fashioned Anglo French entente cordiale. |  |
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| Cardiff on 23:11 - Jan 10 with 2923 views | bennytheblue |
| Cardiff on 22:28 - Jan 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Nothing crazy about it. Cardiff did nothing wrong.
They bought a player through a registered agent who lost their player in the bay of Biscay. Cardiff have every right to be upset if they have to carry the full can for this. Cardiff should go after the agent and FIFA or whoever registered the agent and probably have already done so.
I expect a good old fashioned Anglo French entente cordiale. |
He will, mackay arranged the flight on a dodgy plane with a bloke not licenced to fly people, once his link to Nantes is proven, that will start the next legals….it’s never going to end.  | | | |
| Cardiff on 23:21 - Jan 10 with 2911 views | Boundy |
| Cardiff on 22:28 - Jan 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Nothing crazy about it. Cardiff did nothing wrong.
They bought a player through a registered agent who lost their player in the bay of Biscay. Cardiff have every right to be upset if they have to carry the full can for this. Cardiff should go after the agent and FIFA or whoever registered the agent and probably have already done so.
I expect a good old fashioned Anglo French entente cordiale. |
Obviously you weren't invited to the 3 official court hearings which have repeated stated that they had despite their many protestations they actually owe money to Nantes .So yes they did do something wrong, they bought a player but failed to pay for him | |
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| Cardiff on 00:31 - Jan 11 with 2862 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Cardiff on 23:21 - Jan 10 by Boundy |
Obviously you weren't invited to the 3 official court hearings which have repeated stated that they had despite their many protestations they actually owe money to Nantes .So yes they did do something wrong, they bought a player but failed to pay for him |
But now they have with interest it seems. | |
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| Cardiff on 00:56 - Jan 11 with 2864 views | Robbie |
An unnecessary and tragic death , caused by players agents thinking they are doing the best for their clients , albiet on comission earned .
Not a hit at Cardiff City and this did he / did not sign the contract before boarding that death trap , Salas own words I believe .
Why is the finger of blame not being pointed at the carrier and their insurance clauses .
Think this fatal incident really should have closure by way of how did it happen . | | | |
| Cardiff on 08:35 - Jan 11 with 2747 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cardiff on 00:31 - Jan 11 by ReslovenSwan1 |
But now they have with interest it seems. |
paid for him eventually, long overdue and only because they lost 3 court cases and were duly punished for their crime.
If the agent was working for nantes, officially, surely that will already have been proven, or maybe he wasn't? If Cardiff could prove it I'm sure they'd have brough it up in the 3 court appearanaces.
You crack on with your fantasy though, you are going back on ignore before I get into trouble. | | | |
| Cardiff on 09:08 - Jan 11 with 2715 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cardiff on 23:11 - Jan 10 by bennytheblue |
He will, mackay arranged the flight on a dodgy plane with a bloke not licenced to fly people, once his link to Nantes is proven, that will start the next legals….it’s never going to end. |
The link, if it exists, will never be proven now because by paying up they have accepted they were wrong.
Maybe Tanand Dalman still think they've been mugged but they had to be pragmatic in the end I guess because 3 windows with no new players and given the state you lot are in, it wouldn't end well.
Are you worried about FFP? Aren't you in debt over and above FFP allowances with Tan still putting money in? | | | |
| Cardiff on 09:17 - Jan 11 with 2698 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Cardiff on 23:11 - Jan 10 by bennytheblue |
He will, mackay arranged the flight on a dodgy plane with a bloke not licenced to fly people, once his link to Nantes is proven, that will start the next legals….it’s never going to end. |
Didn’t McKay have links with Cardiff though? Given his two sons were inexplicably given two and a half year contracts despite barely being good enough to play in the Scottish eighth division. |  |
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| Cardiff on 09:34 - Jan 11 with 2669 views | union_jack |
| Cardiff on 09:17 - Jan 11 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Didn’t McKay have links with Cardiff though? Given his two sons were inexplicably given two and a half year contracts despite barely being good enough to play in the Scottish eighth division. |
Not that big a difference surely???
And unless I’ve missed something, let’s not forget they’ve only paid the first instalment not the full amount so. They’re still in debt to Nantes. |  |
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| Cardiff on 13:01 - Jan 11 with 2561 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Cardiff on 22:28 - Jan 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Nothing crazy about it. Cardiff did nothing wrong.
They bought a player through a registered agent who lost their player in the bay of Biscay. Cardiff have every right to be upset if they have to carry the full can for this. Cardiff should go after the agent and FIFA or whoever registered the agent and probably have already done so.
I expect a good old fashioned Anglo French entente cordiale. |
You have been taught the finer details of this case many times, why you still keep getting them wrong I’m not quite sure.
Cardiff did do things wrong, in fact their main argument was that he wasn’t registered to play in the Premier league… which was due to a technical error caused by them in structuring his bonus incorrectly.
The “agent” (who’s sons played for Cardiff due to their ongoing relations) perfectly legally booked a flight, it’s not illegal to book a flight.. so they didn’t lose anybody.
Next time Cardiff sign a player for so much they may take greater care of transporting him rather than giving an inconvenient commercial flight hours away from where he is. [Post edited 11 Jan 2023 13:12]
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| Cardiff on 13:10 - Jan 11 with 2551 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Cardiff on 23:11 - Jan 10 by bennytheblue |
He will, mackay arranged the flight on a dodgy plane with a bloke not licenced to fly people, once his link to Nantes is proven, that will start the next legals….it’s never going to end. |
Wrong bloke.
Mark McKay was the agent (until the deal was complete, which it was already). He doesn’t continue to be the agent forever, it’s a contract which is completed when the transfer is done - which has since been proven to be done.
Willie is McKay booked the flight, he didn’t have an agents license at the time so can’t have been employed by them and clearly stated in the texts that it was as “a personal favour”, nothing to do with Nantes.
Why would Nantes have to transport another clubs player? If you leave your employers to go and work elsewhere, they don’t have to take you to your new place of work. The only time I’ve ever heard that suggested was to do with this case - bizarre.
But back to Willie - his other sons played for Cardiff due to deals he made with Warnock, they are now plying their trade in the back of beyond, they were never good enough for anything better. Very strange arrangements which I’m sure Cardiff won’t want looked at too closely. [Post edited 11 Jan 2023 13:19]
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| Cardiff on 13:18 - Jan 11 with 2546 views | bennytheblue |
| Cardiff on 09:08 - Jan 11 by SullutaCreturned |
The link, if it exists, will never be proven now because by paying up they have accepted they were wrong.
Maybe Tanand Dalman still think they've been mugged but they had to be pragmatic in the end I guess because 3 windows with no new players and given the state you lot are in, it wouldn't end well.
Are you worried about FFP? Aren't you in debt over and above FFP allowances with Tan still putting money in? |
Low wages at our place….no issue with ffp | | | |
| Cardiff on 13:36 - Jan 11 with 2520 views | bennytheblue |
| Cardiff on 13:01 - Jan 11 by Dr_Parnassus |
You have been taught the finer details of this case many times, why you still keep getting them wrong I’m not quite sure.
Cardiff did do things wrong, in fact their main argument was that he wasn’t registered to play in the Premier league… which was due to a technical error caused by them in structuring his bonus incorrectly.
The “agent” (who’s sons played for Cardiff due to their ongoing relations) perfectly legally booked a flight, it’s not illegal to book a flight.. so they didn’t lose anybody.
Next time Cardiff sign a player for so much they may take greater care of transporting him rather than giving an inconvenient commercial flight hours away from where he is. [Post edited 11 Jan 2023 13:12]
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It wasn’t a perfectly legal flight though was it? Far from it…..and mackay was behind it and he’s a banned agent. As for the inconvenient flight, what 3 hrs away in Paris with BA? I know which one I’d take as soon as I saw that plane | | | |
| Cardiff on 13:43 - Jan 11 with 2518 views | bennytheblue |
| Cardiff on 13:10 - Jan 11 by Dr_Parnassus |
Wrong bloke.
Mark McKay was the agent (until the deal was complete, which it was already). He doesn’t continue to be the agent forever, it’s a contract which is completed when the transfer is done - which has since been proven to be done.
Willie is McKay booked the flight, he didn’t have an agents license at the time so can’t have been employed by them and clearly stated in the texts that it was as “a personal favour”, nothing to do with Nantes.
Why would Nantes have to transport another clubs player? If you leave your employers to go and work elsewhere, they don’t have to take you to your new place of work. The only time I’ve ever heard that suggested was to do with this case - bizarre.
But back to Willie - his other sons played for Cardiff due to deals he made with Warnock, they are now plying their trade in the back of beyond, they were never good enough for anything better. Very strange arrangements which I’m sure Cardiff won’t want looked at too closely. [Post edited 11 Jan 2023 13:19]
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You nailed it dr p as ever, why would mackay who everyone knows was employed by Nantes before and only got his sons involved in name as a cover story to continue working, bother to get involved ?
Because he was involved in booking that illegal flight, a flight that wasn’t worthy and killed two people. And there lies the connection to Nantes fc. It’s tenuous I grant you but people are sued for far less links these days….good day to you | | | |
| Cardiff on 13:56 - Jan 11 with 2505 views | pete |
| Cardiff on 09:34 - Jan 11 by union_jack |
Not that big a difference surely???
And unless I’ve missed something, let’s not forget they’ve only paid the first instalment not the full amount so. They’re still in debt to Nantes. |
at this time only the E F L have cleared the embargo, the fiffa one still in force | | | |
| Cardiff on 15:32 - Jan 11 with 2420 views | union_jack |
| Cardiff on 13:56 - Jan 11 by pete |
at this time only the E F L have cleared the embargo, the fiffa one still in force |
I was under the impression that the FIFA embargo stood for the allotted time r en if payment was made. I have no idea though. | |
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