| asylum seekers on barges on 18:09 - Apr 5 with 3535 views | krunchykarrot |
Great Idea, and when they have sorted out the problem they can float it up the Thames and use it for MP's saving the taxpayer a fortune in second home subsidies. |  | |  |
| asylum seekers on barges on 19:02 - Apr 5 with 3477 views | max936 |
The fact that they're all Male should send a warning signal to "ALL".
I hope the other male "migrants" that are on the mainland are being kept under observation, by the security services. [Post edited 5 Apr 2023 19:03]
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| asylum seekers on barges on 19:15 - Apr 5 with 3463 views | Boundy |
There's a surprise .
The plans have been criticised by local groups, refugee charities , what exactly will appease those who deem whatever accommodation (free by the way ) is provided , is never good enough , meanwhile research from Shelter shows at least 271,000 people are recorded as homeless in England, including 123,000 children. Never hear anyone screaming about their rights .I do hope the barge has an engine with limited fuel and a defective compass , now sue me |  |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 19:31 - Apr 5 with 3455 views | Wingstandwood |
South Wales is currently in the midst of mass infiltration from Albanian narco-state criminal gangs with recent arrests in Llanelli, Neath, Ammanford, Crosshands and Bonymaen etc.
The WOKE weaklings that encouraged this should be absolutely ashamed of their own lack of: morals, common sense, critical thinking skills and ability to appraise stark reality itself. Nice one Gary Lineker and likeminded idiots. You should now take some responsibility for what you campaigned for.
No houses and hotel availability rapidly running out ='s nowhere to house immigrants and individuals who throw their passports/documents into the sea are far more likely to be here with criminal intent than it is for DBS favourable motives!!!!
I and many who (hardly rocket science or something to brag about) have been 100% vindicated. Sadly far worse could still be yet to come because mass establishment of drug dealing networks and supply hubs take a while to get off the ground.
It's scary.....I genuinely pray for our communities because drugs are the scourge of public safety, household security, communities, families and society itself. |  |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 19:38 - Apr 5 with 3446 views | Flashberryjack |
Absolute disgrace, asylum seekers should be kept in the hotels until their case is dealt with, and if they are successful they should given suitable homes. |  |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 19:40 - Apr 5 with 3444 views | Gwyn737 |
Or….
We could have a proper policy on immigration.
We’d need effective safe routes for all who need them, efficient processing, followed by getting those successfully granted asylum into work and deportation systems for those rejected.
Either that or we can lap up these dog whistles of ‘aren’t we being tough’ stories while the processing backlog stands at over 161k, costing the taxpayer a fortune.
But look! A barge! | | | |
| asylum seekers on barges on 19:43 - Apr 5 with 3439 views | Flashberryjack |
| asylum seekers on barges on 19:40 - Apr 5 by Gwyn737 |
Or….
We could have a proper policy on immigration.
We’d need effective safe routes for all who need them, efficient processing, followed by getting those successfully granted asylum into work and deportation systems for those rejected.
Either that or we can lap up these dog whistles of ‘aren’t we being tough’ stories while the processing backlog stands at over 161k, costing the taxpayer a fortune.
But look! A barge! |
"We’d need effective safe routes for all who need them"
How big do you think the UK is? | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 19:50 - Apr 5 with 3432 views | Gwyn737 |
| asylum seekers on barges on 19:43 - Apr 5 by Flashberryjack |
"We’d need effective safe routes for all who need them"
How big do you think the UK is? |
The vast majority of refugees stay in the first neighbouring country.
We take far less than comparable countries France and Germany after that.
There’s not going to be 8 billion trying to come here, but I’d happily see us sit down with others and discuss how we manage the load. Unfortunately we don’t play very nicely with others these days.
I’d also be more inclined to see tougher measures if we didn’t have a massive labour shortage. Many of those in hotels can be put to work and support the benefits system holding up the million odd British people of working age who aren’t. | | | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 20:08 - Apr 5 with 3396 views | Boundy |
| asylum seekers on barges on 19:50 - Apr 5 by Gwyn737 |
The vast majority of refugees stay in the first neighbouring country.
We take far less than comparable countries France and Germany after that.
There’s not going to be 8 billion trying to come here, but I’d happily see us sit down with others and discuss how we manage the load. Unfortunately we don’t play very nicely with others these days.
I’d also be more inclined to see tougher measures if we didn’t have a massive labour shortage. Many of those in hotels can be put to work and support the benefits system holding up the million odd British people of working age who aren’t. |
Your first two sentence are a deflection on the problem this country faces , the landmass of Germany and France are much bigger so in proportion there's not a lot of difference . No one has ever mentions 8 billion but we are taking in millions , from around 50,000 every year before 1997 to around 200,000 averaging out over 1997 up to 2010. and increasing since ,regardless whether we have our million unemployed which by the way is something which has fluctuated both up and down over the decades . Totally agree we should be sitting down with other but when those others find it's easier to look the other way and pass on the problem to us and get paid millions for the privilege . | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 20:15 - Apr 5 with 3380 views | onehunglow |
| asylum seekers on barges on 19:31 - Apr 5 by Wingstandwood |
South Wales is currently in the midst of mass infiltration from Albanian narco-state criminal gangs with recent arrests in Llanelli, Neath, Ammanford, Crosshands and Bonymaen etc.
The WOKE weaklings that encouraged this should be absolutely ashamed of their own lack of: morals, common sense, critical thinking skills and ability to appraise stark reality itself. Nice one Gary Lineker and likeminded idiots. You should now take some responsibility for what you campaigned for.
No houses and hotel availability rapidly running out ='s nowhere to house immigrants and individuals who throw their passports/documents into the sea are far more likely to be here with criminal intent than it is for DBS favourable motives!!!!
I and many who (hardly rocket science or something to brag about) have been 100% vindicated. Sadly far worse could still be yet to come because mass establishment of drug dealing networks and supply hubs take a while to get off the ground.
It's scary.....I genuinely pray for our communities because drugs are the scourge of public safety, household security, communities, families and society itself. |
The last people we need in this country are young Albanian men,the “ best” criminals around .
Ruthless in a way our liberal bleeding hearts couldn’t envisage . | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 20:37 - Apr 5 with 3372 views | Gwyn737 |
| asylum seekers on barges on 20:08 - Apr 5 by Boundy |
Your first two sentence are a deflection on the problem this country faces , the landmass of Germany and France are much bigger so in proportion there's not a lot of difference . No one has ever mentions 8 billion but we are taking in millions , from around 50,000 every year before 1997 to around 200,000 averaging out over 1997 up to 2010. and increasing since ,regardless whether we have our million unemployed which by the way is something which has fluctuated both up and down over the decades . Totally agree we should be sitting down with other but when those others find it's easier to look the other way and pass on the problem to us and get paid millions for the privilege . |
You may well be right about the France and Germany comparison but I think it’s important to point out that most stay in neighbouring countries.
Just as it’s important to point out that refugees don’t have to stay in the first safe country. Just because we’re an island doesn’t mean we should take our fare share. | | | |
| asylum seekers on barges on 21:17 - Apr 5 with 3337 views | Kilkennyjack |
| asylum seekers on barges on 19:31 - Apr 5 by Wingstandwood |
South Wales is currently in the midst of mass infiltration from Albanian narco-state criminal gangs with recent arrests in Llanelli, Neath, Ammanford, Crosshands and Bonymaen etc.
The WOKE weaklings that encouraged this should be absolutely ashamed of their own lack of: morals, common sense, critical thinking skills and ability to appraise stark reality itself. Nice one Gary Lineker and likeminded idiots. You should now take some responsibility for what you campaigned for.
No houses and hotel availability rapidly running out ='s nowhere to house immigrants and individuals who throw their passports/documents into the sea are far more likely to be here with criminal intent than it is for DBS favourable motives!!!!
I and many who (hardly rocket science or something to brag about) have been 100% vindicated. Sadly far worse could still be yet to come because mass establishment of drug dealing networks and supply hubs take a while to get off the ground.
It's scary.....I genuinely pray for our communities because drugs are the scourge of public safety, household security, communities, families and society itself. |
The Tory party have been in power for 13 years.
How can it be the fault of anyone else mun ? |  |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 21:20 - Apr 5 with 3334 views | Kilkennyjack |
| asylum seekers on barges on 19:02 - Apr 5 by max936 |
The fact that they're all Male should send a warning signal to "ALL".
I hope the other male "migrants" that are on the mainland are being kept under observation, by the security services. [Post edited 5 Apr 2023 19:03]
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Its not a jail.
They will be free to go to the local shops etc.
500 young men seems a ridiculous proposal.
I am sure Suella will have thought it all through. | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 21:20 - Apr 5 with 3334 views | Flashberryjack |
| asylum seekers on barges on 20:37 - Apr 5 by Gwyn737 |
You may well be right about the France and Germany comparison but I think it’s important to point out that most stay in neighbouring countries.
Just as it’s important to point out that refugees don’t have to stay in the first safe country. Just because we’re an island doesn’t mean we should take our fare share. |
Your claim might not be considered if you:
are from an EU country
travelled to the UK through a ‘safe third country’
have a connection to a safe third country where you could claim asylum
Generally, a safe third country is one that:
you’re not a citizen of
you would not be harmed in
would not send you on to another country where you would be harmed
The majority of the ones crossing the channel in boats aren't refugees though, they want to come here because they think they'll have a better life. | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 21:36 - Apr 5 with 3322 views | Gwyn737 |
| asylum seekers on barges on 21:20 - Apr 5 by Flashberryjack |
Your claim might not be considered if you:
are from an EU country
travelled to the UK through a ‘safe third country’
have a connection to a safe third country where you could claim asylum
Generally, a safe third country is one that:
you’re not a citizen of
you would not be harmed in
would not send you on to another country where you would be harmed
The majority of the ones crossing the channel in boats aren't refugees though, they want to come here because they think they'll have a better life. |
Between June 18 and June 22, 76% of those crossing in small boats have been granted asylum.
This figure drops significantly for Albanians to 53% so it’s obviously an issue. (Albanian crossing numbers have increased pretty dramatically since then too).
I’m not for one second suggesting that the Albanians crossing for nefarious reasons aren’t a huge concern- they are. However, the whole system is such a mess we’re unable to address it.
I know what won’t fix it; a barge. It also won’t cut down on the £6 million a day spent on accommodation.
I wish people would shout and scream about this, not clap because a tiny number are housed poorly to sate appetites and deflect from the bigger issues. | | | |
| asylum seekers on barges on 22:05 - Apr 5 with 3284 views | felixstowe_jack |
They are not asylum seekers they are illegal immigrants. | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 22:09 - Apr 5 with 3273 views | Gwyn737 |
| asylum seekers on barges on 22:05 - Apr 5 by felixstowe_jack |
They are not asylum seekers they are illegal immigrants. |
Those are the government figures on those granted asylum. | | | |
| asylum seekers on barges on 23:05 - Apr 5 with 3248 views | max936 |
| asylum seekers on barges on 21:20 - Apr 5 by Kilkennyjack |
Its not a jail.
They will be free to go to the local shops etc.
500 young men seems a ridiculous proposal.
I am sure Suella will have thought it all through. |
Who said it was a Jail then?? | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 00:30 - Apr 6 with 3227 views | Robbie |
The result of the next General Election dependant on control immigrants is pointless .
The refugees , asylum seekers , immigrants , whatever will through any means still get here irrelevant of who is in power in Westminster , what would Labour do differntly , not much .
Sure there are genuine cases of people seeking safe haven , but every day my trust is some of these these incoming cases is getting more cynical .
Doubt any sitting Parliament will start pointing fingers and accusing other EU countries of facilitating people smugglers though . | | | |
| asylum seekers on barges on 06:28 - Apr 6 with 3211 views | AguycalledJack |
From what I can tell, labour have actively tried to undermine the government on this issue at every turn for their own political ends. | | | |
| asylum seekers on barges on 08:18 - Apr 6 with 3189 views | Boundy |
| asylum seekers on barges on 06:28 - Apr 6 by AguycalledJack |
From what I can tell, labour have actively tried to undermine the government on this issue at every turn for their own political ends. |
Its not just Labour though but don't forget Labours last term in office which cost this country financially and in terms of security with its open door policy ,all of which to stay in power. | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 09:20 - Apr 6 with 3178 views | onehunglow |
| asylum seekers on barges on 19:40 - Apr 5 by Gwyn737 |
Or….
We could have a proper policy on immigration.
We’d need effective safe routes for all who need them, efficient processing, followed by getting those successfully granted asylum into work and deportation systems for those rejected.
Either that or we can lap up these dog whistles of ‘aren’t we being tough’ stories while the processing backlog stands at over 161k, costing the taxpayer a fortune.
But look! A barge! |
Indeed.
Got a job to go to.
Have savings to support yourself
Just like many others really
If not ,stay away | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 09:22 - Apr 6 with 3174 views | onehunglow |
| asylum seekers on barges on 08:18 - Apr 6 by Boundy |
Its not just Labour though but don't forget Labours last term in office which cost this country financially and in terms of security with its open door policy ,all of which to stay in power. |
Good point
It shows not just “ Tory scum “ responsible | |
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| asylum seekers on barges on 10:02 - Apr 6 with 3130 views | controversial_jack |
| asylum seekers on barges on 20:08 - Apr 5 by Boundy |
Your first two sentence are a deflection on the problem this country faces , the landmass of Germany and France are much bigger so in proportion there's not a lot of difference . No one has ever mentions 8 billion but we are taking in millions , from around 50,000 every year before 1997 to around 200,000 averaging out over 1997 up to 2010. and increasing since ,regardless whether we have our million unemployed which by the way is something which has fluctuated both up and down over the decades . Totally agree we should be sitting down with other but when those others find it's easier to look the other way and pass on the problem to us and get paid millions for the privilege . |
The land mass is irrelevant - what do you want to do, stick them in the middle of a field, The French infrastructure , population and GDP is very similar to ours yet they have taken in 4 times more than we have.Germany is bigger, yes, but not massively bigger than ours.
Nobody is passing on the problem to us if they have taken in more than we have. Your logic is completely flawed and you are ill informed as usual | | | |
| asylum seekers on barges on 10:37 - Apr 6 with 3150 views | felixstowe_jack |
| asylum seekers on barges on 10:02 - Apr 6 by controversial_jack |
The land mass is irrelevant - what do you want to do, stick them in the middle of a field, The French infrastructure , population and GDP is very similar to ours yet they have taken in 4 times more than we have.Germany is bigger, yes, but not massively bigger than ours.
Nobody is passing on the problem to us if they have taken in more than we have. Your logic is completely flawed and you are ill informed as usual |
France is twice as big as the UK so not similar. Perhaps Russia which is huge could take their Fair share. Oh I forgot over 1 million people have left Russian since the start of their special operation and 8 million Ukrainians have left the country due to constant Russian attacks on civilian housing . Another 8 million Ukrainians have been internally displaced from the war areas. | |
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