| Suella sacked then 08:53 - Nov 13 with 3203 views | onehunglow |
Least surprising news ever |  |
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| Suella sacked then on 09:17 - Nov 13 with 2628 views | raynor94 |
Cruella is not going to go quietly, stand by! |  |
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| Suella sacked then on 09:27 - Nov 13 with 2613 views | onehunglow |
| Suella sacked then on 09:17 - Nov 13 by raynor94 |
Cruella is not going to go quietly, stand by! |
Morning Ray.
After the usual drivel she pointed has stated,she will be saying more later.
This is not good for Sunak.
For me,a supine,gutless PM who failed to back someone for saying what many feel but never would publically.
Add to this the apparent return of Cameron,not even an MP ,as Foreign Secretary and you have madness .
I’ve not seen such a dumb government in my lifetime and Ivecseen many | |
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| Suella sacked then on 09:39 - Nov 13 with 2608 views | Boundy |
| Suella sacked then on 09:27 - Nov 13 by onehunglow |
Morning Ray.
After the usual drivel she pointed has stated,she will be saying more later.
This is not good for Sunak.
For me,a supine,gutless PM who failed to back someone for saying what many feel but never would publically.
Add to this the apparent return of Cameron,not even an MP ,as Foreign Secretary and you have madness .
I’ve not seen such a dumb government in my lifetime and Ivecseen many |
Was she stating what is really the truth ,for identifying what is politically correct for this moment in time . Khan is the mayor who sacked Dick for not toeing his vision.
She was foolish to say it openly but she stuck by her convictions and the fall out from this will be interesting to say the least | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Suella sacked then on 09:44 - Nov 13 with 2595 views | onehunglow |
| Suella sacked then on 09:39 - Nov 13 by Boundy |
Was she stating what is really the truth ,for identifying what is politically correct for this moment in time . Khan is the mayor who sacked Dick for not toeing his vision.
She was foolish to say it openly but she stuck by her convictions and the fall out from this will be interesting to say the least |
Morning.
I’ve been reading some truly hate filled posts all over social media .
I reckon 75% of this is for public consumption. Clearly,we live in times when free speech works one way .It stinks .
I read an attachment on our site today regarding “ advice” from the Law Society as to how to refer to various people. Advise ,mark you. We don’t even know how to describe somebody’s countenance .
I’m really not sure if I should post any longer on here or any social media such is my indignation .
Society is a craven catastrophic mess | |
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| Suella sacked then on 09:52 - Nov 13 with 2591 views | KeithHaynes |
| Suella sacked then on 09:17 - Nov 13 by raynor94 |
Cruella is not going to go quietly, stand by! |
It’s what she wanted, now she will go for Sunak’s job. |  |
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| Suella sacked then on 10:00 - Nov 13 with 2576 views | theloneranger |
James Cleverly has replaced Suella Braverman as Home Secretary, and David Cameron is being appointed as the new Foreign Secretary. |  |
| Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎 |
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| Suella sacked then on 10:10 - Nov 13 with 2566 views | onehunglow |
| Suella sacked then on 09:52 - Nov 13 by KeithHaynes |
It’s what she wanted, now she will go for Sunak’s job. |
Sunak has miscalculated and underestimated this woman .
She could be his nemesis
Let’s get Labour in and see how they go | |
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| Suella sacked then on 10:11 - Nov 13 with 2565 views | onehunglow |
| Suella sacked then on 10:00 - Nov 13 by theloneranger |
James Cleverly has replaced Suella Braverman as Home Secretary, and David Cameron is being appointed as the new Foreign Secretary. |
Cameron.  | |
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| Suella sacked then on 10:17 - Nov 13 with 2562 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Don’t agree with a lot of what she said or the way she said it but it’s quite the state of affairs for a Home Secretary to be sacked for publicly holding the police to account. |  |
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| Suella sacked then on 10:23 - Nov 13 with 2557 views | onehunglow |
| Suella sacked then on 10:17 - Nov 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Don’t agree with a lot of what she said or the way she said it but it’s quite the state of affairs for a Home Secretary to be sacked for publicly holding the police to account. |
And for the Met to claim their policing was a Success” is just contemptible .
Mark Riwley is the latest in a long line of xxxxxxxxxxx. Xxxxxxxx who are failing the public .
It’s also contemptible to accuse her of emboldening the “right wing “
We need a Home Sec that is going to be strong,firm and courageous. Looking around ,I see nobody like that.
Yvette Cooper will be Labour’s . And people thought Braverman was xxxx.
God help us all | |
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| Suella sacked then on 11:40 - Nov 13 with 2511 views | Gwyn737 |
| Suella sacked then on 10:00 - Nov 13 by theloneranger |
James Cleverly has replaced Suella Braverman as Home Secretary, and David Cameron is being appointed as the new Foreign Secretary. |
She will at some point but I doubt it will be until after the election.
With a GE on the horizon, the Tories seem to have finally worked out that doubling down on culture wars politics and blaming everything on immigrants is not making any kind of dent in the polls.
They’re down to their core support and need to start moving a little to the centre if they’re going grab any additional votes.
I expect Braverman will position herself for a leadership challenge for then. At that point the party are going to have decide on its direction. If they choose to go with Braverman they might as well rename themselves UKIP and prepare for a long stint in opposition.
Hopefully they won’t and will return to traditional conservative values. The county needs a strong Tory party. | | | |
| Suella sacked then on 12:19 - Nov 13 with 2491 views | onehunglow |
| Suella sacked then on 11:40 - Nov 13 by Gwyn737 |
She will at some point but I doubt it will be until after the election.
With a GE on the horizon, the Tories seem to have finally worked out that doubling down on culture wars politics and blaming everything on immigrants is not making any kind of dent in the polls.
They’re down to their core support and need to start moving a little to the centre if they’re going grab any additional votes.
I expect Braverman will position herself for a leadership challenge for then. At that point the party are going to have decide on its direction. If they choose to go with Braverman they might as well rename themselves UKIP and prepare for a long stint in opposition.
Hopefully they won’t and will return to traditional conservative values. The county needs a strong Tory party. |
Excellent classy post Sir | |
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| Suella sacked then on 12:27 - Nov 13 with 2482 views | max936 |
| Suella sacked then on 11:40 - Nov 13 by Gwyn737 |
She will at some point but I doubt it will be until after the election.
With a GE on the horizon, the Tories seem to have finally worked out that doubling down on culture wars politics and blaming everything on immigrants is not making any kind of dent in the polls.
They’re down to their core support and need to start moving a little to the centre if they’re going grab any additional votes.
I expect Braverman will position herself for a leadership challenge for then. At that point the party are going to have decide on its direction. If they choose to go with Braverman they might as well rename themselves UKIP and prepare for a long stint in opposition.
Hopefully they won’t and will return to traditional conservative values. The county needs a strong Tory party. |
The country needs a complete overall in Politics' a new brave approach, with committed politicians from all walks of life and not the lot we got now who are multi millionaires and those who were born with silver spoons in their enormous gobs. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 12:28]
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| Suella sacked then on 13:03 - Nov 13 with 2456 views | onehunglow |
Sunak has made a formidable enemy here who will challenge for the leadership when Sunak gets humiliated at the next GE .
The last conservative senior minister truly vilified as we read was Thatcher who went on to destroy Labour with landslides because people had had enough,outside south Wales and Merseyside and north east of course where militant Charlie’s destroyed cities for a generation for political dogma .
Many ,as I say,agree with Braverman and football forums give a rather skewed view of public opinion country wide .
Many,like me,won’t be voting at all . | |
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| Suella sacked then on 22:31 - Nov 16 with 2212 views | Luther27 |
| Suella sacked then on 12:27 - Nov 13 by max936 |
The country needs a complete overall in Politics' a new brave approach, with committed politicians from all walks of life and not the lot we got now who are multi millionaires and those who were born with silver spoons in their enormous gobs. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 12:28]
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What we need Max is politicians who serve the electorate in this country and adhere to those values rather than their own self promotion and ideals.
It’s called public service….and it has been forgotten by many a profession in this country. | | | |
| Suella sacked then on 22:36 - Nov 16 with 2201 views | Dr_Winston |
What we need are politicians paid at the rate we'd expect people leading the country to earn, but a lot less of them. The Prime Minister's salary is less than £170k pa. Anyone with any competence at that level can earn at least double that in the private sector.
What we have at the moment are moronic political placemen like Drakeford, Carolyn Harris et al who are unemployable at the private sector level.
The whole system needs an overhaul. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Suella sacked then on 22:57 - Nov 16 with 2186 views | waynekerr55 |
| Suella sacked then on 13:03 - Nov 13 by onehunglow |
Sunak has made a formidable enemy here who will challenge for the leadership when Sunak gets humiliated at the next GE .
The last conservative senior minister truly vilified as we read was Thatcher who went on to destroy Labour with landslides because people had had enough,outside south Wales and Merseyside and north east of course where militant Charlie’s destroyed cities for a generation for political dogma .
Many ,as I say,agree with Braverman and football forums give a rather skewed view of public opinion country wide .
Many,like me,won’t be voting at all . |
But you should vote, apathy with politics has led us to this dark juncture |  |
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| Suella sacked then on 00:15 - Nov 17 with 2171 views | Robbie |
Braverman and Patel talked the talk but both were over ruled by High Court verdicts regarding their efforts to find any solutions to many current issues , they were sacked .
Who runs the UK now , Westminster or Law Lords , cannot remember putting my X vote in the booth letting Judges rule the roost . | | | |
| Suella sacked then on 06:07 - Nov 17 with 2146 views | Whiterockin |
| Suella sacked then on 00:15 - Nov 17 by Robbie |
Braverman and Patel talked the talk but both were over ruled by High Court verdicts regarding their efforts to find any solutions to many current issues , they were sacked .
Who runs the UK now , Westminster or Law Lords , cannot remember putting my X vote in the booth letting Judges rule the roost . |
But you would hope those elected were intelligent enough to stay within the law. Or are you saying the government is above the law, like they seem to think. |  | | |
| Suella sacked then on 08:32 - Nov 17 with 2111 views | onehunglow |
| Suella sacked then on 22:57 - Nov 16 by waynekerr55 |
But you should vote, apathy with politics has led us to this dark juncture |
There’s are many things I should do.
I M not going to cast a vote for a party or candidate for whom I feel distain.
We are where we are because too many are class obsessed and vote only one way as their “ culture” instructs . | |
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| Suella sacked then on 09:16 - Nov 17 with 2097 views | majorraglan |
| Suella sacked then on 00:15 - Nov 17 by Robbie |
Braverman and Patel talked the talk but both were over ruled by High Court verdicts regarding their efforts to find any solutions to many current issues , they were sacked .
Who runs the UK now , Westminster or Law Lords , cannot remember putting my X vote in the booth letting Judges rule the roost . |
The judges were right with their decision making, what was being proposed was illegal. Let’s be honest, this shower are probably the most untrustworthy collective of politicians we’ve ever had in charge and the law of the land is there to protect and safeguard.
The law of the land is there for a reason and applies to everyone including politicians, nobody should be above the law. If the politicians can ignore or break laws as and when they choose, where will it end ? Probably when we’re like Russia or Zimbabwe with kangaroo Courts and people being jailed just for speaking out.
People like Braverman and Patel have been bumping their gums off for ages pushing a policy that anyone with half a brain could see would crash and burn at Court, but they’ve persisted and wasted and huge amounts of cash on a policy that wouldn’t get off the ground. We should be holding them to account and not the judges who’ve pulled them up on their policy. | | | |
| Suella sacked then on 09:28 - Nov 17 with 2090 views | onehunglow |
| Suella sacked then on 09:16 - Nov 17 by majorraglan |
The judges were right with their decision making, what was being proposed was illegal. Let’s be honest, this shower are probably the most untrustworthy collective of politicians we’ve ever had in charge and the law of the land is there to protect and safeguard.
The law of the land is there for a reason and applies to everyone including politicians, nobody should be above the law. If the politicians can ignore or break laws as and when they choose, where will it end ? Probably when we’re like Russia or Zimbabwe with kangaroo Courts and people being jailed just for speaking out.
People like Braverman and Patel have been bumping their gums off for ages pushing a policy that anyone with half a brain could see would crash and burn at Court, but they’ve persisted and wasted and huge amounts of cash on a policy that wouldn’t get off the ground. We should be holding them to account and not the judges who’ve pulled them up on their policy. |
So,that plan failed.
Now what is the best for us.
Answers on a postcard .
Nobody knows what to do or how we can stop them coming or simply allow them all to flock here no matter who they are .
I see and hear some Labour going on about protecting border and others simply inviting refugees to come here.
We are a small island with ever decreasing stresss on our services . | |
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| Suella sacked then on 09:28 - Nov 17 with 2090 views | Boundy |
| Suella sacked then on 22:36 - Nov 16 by Dr_Winston |
What we need are politicians paid at the rate we'd expect people leading the country to earn, but a lot less of them. The Prime Minister's salary is less than £170k pa. Anyone with any competence at that level can earn at least double that in the private sector.
What we have at the moment are moronic political placemen like Drakeford, Carolyn Harris et al who are unemployable at the private sector level.
The whole system needs an overhaul. |
But when you take into account the expenses their able to v claim , the fact they can employ family members , they can take posts on business boards ,be paid for advising , imo the worlds their oyster. | |
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| Suella sacked then on 12:22 - Nov 17 with 2064 views | Gwyn737 |
| Suella sacked then on 09:28 - Nov 17 by Boundy |
But when you take into account the expenses their able to v claim , the fact they can employ family members , they can take posts on business boards ,be paid for advising , imo the worlds their oyster. |
They should be stopped from doing those things and be paid much much more.
The PMs salary is less than that of an average league 2 footballer. No suprise income is gerenated in other ways.
If we want the brightest and best we need to pay for them. | | | |
| Suella sacked then on 17:45 - Nov 17 with 1992 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Suella sacked then on 09:28 - Nov 17 by Boundy |
But when you take into account the expenses their able to v claim , the fact they can employ family members , they can take posts on business boards ,be paid for advising , imo the worlds their oyster. |
I think that's the point.we should pay them enough and the rules should be no second jobs, no paid interests outside politics, no advisory roles.
Pay the Prime Minister 750k per year and that's it, no expenses.
But then the rules also need to be stronger and clearer around things like lying, misleading the country, about pusnihmsnts if you break the rules.
Maybe that is the way forward but how can we expect the people who ARE the problem to change things for the better? | | | |
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