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Derby sack Keogh 19:18 - Oct 30 with 6265 viewsloftboy

How come the other two got away with it!! Nothing to do with his age and length of contract!!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/30/derby-sack-richard-keogh-car-cr

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Derby sack Keogh on 19:25 - Oct 30 with 2892 viewsRANGERS4EVER

Seems like a knee-jerk reaction

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Derby sack Keogh on 19:33 - Oct 30 with 2843 viewsDiscodroids

We've all had nights out with mates where it's gone event horizon off-the-rails but that knees up muvva brown from the Derby Players that night, was Jonathon E last man standing at -the-Tokyo-Dome Proportions.

They must feel such Cnts. I know I would.
[Post edited 30 Oct 2019 19:33]

'Dance At My Party'.

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Derby sack Keogh on 19:35 - Oct 30 with 2822 viewsrunningman75

Can we invite him to Loftus Road for his player of the season award in 2014.
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Derby sack Keogh on 19:40 - Oct 30 with 2805 viewsstainrods_elbow

Derby sack Keogh on 19:33 - Oct 30 by Discodroids

We've all had nights out with mates where it's gone event horizon off-the-rails but that knees up muvva brown from the Derby Players that night, was Jonathon E last man standing at -the-Tokyo-Dome Proportions.

They must feel such Cnts. I know I would.
[Post edited 30 Oct 2019 19:33]


Hilarious that the BBC are reporting he feels 'badly let down' by Derby - if the boot were any more on the other foot, it'd be glued to it! Mind you, I would assume that, legally the club'll have taken advice, and could not do this unless they can legitimately cite gross misconduct (which this surely was).

I agree, though, that the other two seem to have got off with an unjust slap on the wrist, so maybe that's something the PFA will be looking at on the player's behalf.
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Derby sack Keogh on 19:40 - Oct 30 with 2802 viewsstevec

Perhaps those two cnts will cover his wages until he’s fit to play for someone.

Think I can guess the answer to that.
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Derby sack Keogh on 19:40 - Oct 30 with 2796 viewsdaveB

can't say i blame the club seemed quite reasonable to extend his contract for a year to help him recover but pay him less wages as he wouldn't be playing. Daft of him to turn it down
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Derby sack Keogh on 19:58 - Oct 30 with 2716 viewsSimplyNico

I agree that it would be a gross misconduct related dismissal. He will be able to sue whichever was driving for negligence (the driver likely will be uninsured, the insurer will pull cover). A bit of contributory negligence from Keoth. Nice bit of litigation!
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Derby sack Keogh on 20:01 - Oct 30 with 2698 viewsdanehoop

Derby sack Keogh on 19:40 - Oct 30 by daveB

can't say i blame the club seemed quite reasonable to extend his contract for a year to help him recover but pay him less wages as he wouldn't be playing. Daft of him to turn it down


I think Derby will lose this at tribunal. Their previous offer to pay reduced salary could be easily argued to be constructive dismissal and merely an attempt to avoid their financial obligations as an employer. Had they not made that offer and done this straight after the incident it might have worked. The lack of equivalent treatment with the two who actually broke the law will also be easy evidence for any decent lawyer.

In summary then, they are all greedy irresponsible dodgy morally bankrupt cockroaches

Never knowingly understood

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Derby sack Keogh on 20:02 - Oct 30 with 2694 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Derby sack Keogh on 19:40 - Oct 30 by daveB

can't say i blame the club seemed quite reasonable to extend his contract for a year to help him recover but pay him less wages as he wouldn't be playing. Daft of him to turn it down


Dave,

From my reading of that linked article it seems that Derby haven't offered to extend his contract but have instead requested that he take a reduced wage on the remainder of his existing contract. Am I misreading it?

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Derby sack Keogh on 20:07 - Oct 30 with 2661 viewsEsox_Lucius

Hopefully he will be inducted into the Forever R's this season too.

The grass is always greener.
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Derby sack Keogh on 20:11 - Oct 30 with 2649 viewsstainrods_elbow

Derby sack Keogh on 19:40 - Oct 30 by daveB

can't say i blame the club seemed quite reasonable to extend his contract for a year to help him recover but pay him less wages as he wouldn't be playing. Daft of him to turn it down


Wasn't it his existing contract, though, not a one year add-on they offered him after the crash on reduced terms? To play devils advocate, would you just suck it up if, say, you got pissed and crashed your company car, and the company said 'ok, you can stay with us, but on half the money'? He'll have a mortgage of x and family outgoings of y etc., which he's presumably committed to like anyone. Clearly, sympathy will be limited for a pro footballer who was reportedly earning 24k a week, and who, especially for a club captain, has behaved like an utter dork in a way that could have been much worse, but I can just about see why he might choose to cut his losses.
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Derby sack Keogh on 20:25 - Oct 30 with 2578 viewsCamberleyR

It's a bit harsh what Derby have done but Keogh has to take a share of the blame for the predicament he finds himself in. He knew he was getting into a car with someone who was massively over the drink/drive limit and the potential consequences this might bring.

This did make me laugh though:

“The club will not tolerate any of its players or staff behaving in a manner which puts themselves, their colleagues, and members of the general public at risk of injury or worse, or which brings the club into disrepute. The club will be making no further comment at this time regards this matter until the conclusion of any potential appeal.”

As long as your names aren't Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett presumably.
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Derby sack Keogh on 20:36 - Oct 30 with 2529 viewsBlackCrowe

I think it stinks actually. All three should be sacked. Just that the other two have more 'value' to them being younger than Keogh who is thirty something. So it's not a moral standpoint, just cashing in the situation. Derby should hang their head in shame imo.

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Derby sack Keogh on 20:41 - Oct 30 with 2506 viewsBoston

Anyone asked ‘Elvis’ for his opinion on this?

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Derby sack Keogh on 20:59 - Oct 30 with 2463 viewsactonman

So , sacked for gross misconduct but they were happy to keep him on if he took a pay cut

The other 2 broke the law and caused the situation , yet are back playing after 1 game ?

Something don’t add up
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Derby sack Keogh on 21:54 - Oct 30 with 2346 viewsPhildo

Terrible decision- anyone got a video of his greatest moment in a Derby shirt to help ease the pain?

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Derby sack Keogh on 22:01 - Oct 30 with 2319 viewslave16

Derby sack Keogh on 20:59 - Oct 30 by actonman

So , sacked for gross misconduct but they were happy to keep him on if he took a pay cut

The other 2 broke the law and caused the situation , yet are back playing after 1 game ?

Something don’t add up


stinks and shows again football is morally bankrupt

keogh's night out - got drunk, gave abuse, got lift home, wreaked knee possible end of career - gutted
derby seeing of this - captain got drunk, gave abuse - will look bad in press - yes
wreaked knee, costly operation and recovery - will it cost us some money - yes
when better is he worth anything transfer wise - no to old
can we fire him and save a few quid, and sell it like a good thing - yes
result

the other 2's night out - got drunk, gave abuse,drove home breaking the law crashed car - gutted they got caught
derby seeing of this - they got drunk, gave abuse, broke the law - will look bad in press - yes
are they possibly worth a lot of money - yes
brush it under the carpet and blame the other guy - yes
result

stinks

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Derby sack Keogh on 22:04 - Oct 30 with 2311 viewsdistortR

cesspit of a club right now.
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Derby sack Keogh on 22:05 - Oct 30 with 2310 viewsNed_Kennedys

Derby sack Keogh on 20:36 - Oct 30 by BlackCrowe

I think it stinks actually. All three should be sacked. Just that the other two have more 'value' to them being younger than Keogh who is thirty something. So it's not a moral standpoint, just cashing in the situation. Derby should hang their head in shame imo.


What a despicable club Derby has become under Mel Morris. I wish them nothing but ill fortune and despair for the rest of the season and beyond..
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Derby sack Keogh on 22:22 - Oct 30 with 2250 viewssmegma

Derby sack Keogh on 19:40 - Oct 30 by daveB

can't say i blame the club seemed quite reasonable to extend his contract for a year to help him recover but pay him less wages as he wouldn't be playing. Daft of him to turn it down


Not so daft when he has a signed contract until 2021. He will take them to a tribunal for unfair dismissal and will probably win. Meanwhile two convicted criminals are still employed . The worlds gone mad part 482.
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Derby sack Keogh on 22:24 - Oct 30 with 2231 viewsted_hendrix

Rooney's probably pissed already reading this.

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Derby sack Keogh on 22:28 - Oct 30 with 2219 viewsLblock

Derby staying really classy these days.

How I long for a tabloid headline in March when a new recruit they sign in the January window get's exposed for shagging a 70 year old prostitute or something similar.

I wish them every failure.
May a pox be upon them

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Derby sack Keogh on 22:30 - Oct 30 with 2210 viewsdaveB

Derby sack Keogh on 20:02 - Oct 30 by BrianMcCarthy

Dave,

From my reading of that linked article it seems that Derby haven't offered to extend his contract but have instead requested that he take a reduced wage on the remainder of his existing contract. Am I misreading it?


i read elsewhere they were going to extend it by a year, neither side comes out of it well and I think Keogh is going to need serious help from the PFA, can see him have big problems in the next few years dealing with how his career has ended, we all laugh at the Zamora goal etc but blimey he's been through some tough times the last few years and you have to worry about his mental state after all these massive lows.

We don't know what happened on the night in question or what goes on behind the scenes though, a lot more to it imo than what has come out, they won't have done this lightly
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Derby sack Keogh on 00:20 - Oct 31 with 2060 viewsPunteR

Derby sack Keogh on 20:36 - Oct 30 by BlackCrowe

I think it stinks actually. All three should be sacked. Just that the other two have more 'value' to them being younger than Keogh who is thirty something. So it's not a moral standpoint, just cashing in the situation. Derby should hang their head in shame imo.


This

Bake my chicken

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Derby sack Keogh on 08:16 - Oct 31 with 1779 viewsNorthernr

They've probably been able to do this (or think they're able to do this) because it will say in his contract words to the effect that he's not to do anything that renders him unable to train and play football, barring injuries sustained in the course of that naturally. He's done something that puts him out for 18 months, basically retiring him, whereas the other two are still fit and able to play.

As said above though, firstly I would think saying you can stay on reduced money and then when he refuses it suddenly deciding its gross misconduct won't look good at a tribunal. And secondly it's pretty transparent why the two who are young and could one day be sold for money are kept on and the crusty old cripple gets bombed out.

Morally bankrupt that club over the last few years. Trying every little twist and trick to work their way around rules.
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