| The next Eze 13:42 - Apr 19 with 6034 views | Myke |
Due to a combination of serious injury and/or loss of form, the most likely candidates (Dieng/Willock/Chair/Dickie/Dykes ) don't seem ready for a big money move during the summer. This places us in a bit of a quandary Do we hold out for 'big' offer (as Swansea did with Patterson) that may not materialise? Do we accept reduced offers (assuming we get offers of course) which we know are below the player's potential value and build in significant sell-on clauses? Or do we hold onto them all and hope that their natural improvement and (hopefully) lack of injuries will compensate for having no extra money to spend this summer Finally, how much will these potential scenarios influence whether Warburton will be our manager next season or not? |  | | |  |
| The next Eze on 13:50 - Apr 19 with 4006 views | daveB |
A lot will depend on contracts, I think most have 2 years left so would either need new contracts this summer or selling them. I think at least one of them will go, Deing seems the most likely imo. |  | | |
| The next Eze on 14:04 - Apr 19 with 3936 views | Welsh_Ranger |
| The next Eze on 13:50 - Apr 19 by daveB |
A lot will depend on contracts, I think most have 2 years left so would either need new contracts this summer or selling them. I think at least one of them will go, Deing seems the most likely imo. |
Possibly Hoos 2+1 scenario? | | | |
| The next Eze on 14:07 - Apr 19 with 3915 views | Myke |
| The next Eze on 13:50 - Apr 19 by daveB |
A lot will depend on contracts, I think most have 2 years left so would either need new contracts this summer or selling them. I think at least one of them will go, Deing seems the most likely imo. |
Hmm and the one we are likely to miss the most based on the past few months. To make matters worse, his natural successor, Walsh, has missed out on a chance to gain first team experience in his absence | | | |
| The next Eze on 14:38 - Apr 19 with 3776 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Willock is made for the Premier League. Perhaps the injury will delay that happening but he is definitely the one that should get us some big money. | | | |
| The next Eze on 15:13 - Apr 19 with 3683 views | E17hoop |
Contract expiry:
Dieng - June 2024
Willock - June 2023
Chair - June 2025
Dickie - June 2024
Dykes - June 2024 |  |
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| The next Eze on 15:32 - Apr 19 with 3603 views | switchingcode |
| The next Eze on 14:38 - Apr 19 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Willock is made for the Premier League. Perhaps the injury will delay that happening but he is definitely the one that should get us some big money. |
Big money ? How much ? | | | |
| The next Eze on 15:32 - Apr 19 with 3606 views | Myke |
| The next Eze on 15:13 - Apr 19 by E17hoop |
Contract expiry:
Dieng - June 2024
Willock - June 2023
Chair - June 2025
Dickie - June 2024
Dykes - June 2024 |
That only leaves Willock as an immediate concern and they likely have an option of another year on him. I agree that he is the nearest to Premier League standard that we have, but I wonder how much this injury will set him back developmentally and us back financially. He really would benefit with one more full season with us, but we may not be in a financial position to offer it. | | | |
| The next Eze on 16:04 - Apr 19 with 3503 views | Boston |
| The next Eze on 15:32 - Apr 19 by switchingcode |
Big money ? How much ? |
There’ll be a thread on that soon enough. | |
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| The next Eze on 16:24 - Apr 19 with 3404 views | GaxZE |
Willock is effectively 2024, as we have an option to extend. https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/chris-willock-completes-qpr-switch/
That said, we're not getting eze money for him. He's not quite there yet. He and Dieng I feel are our most valuable assets. Dieng will only go if there is a space for him at ____ club.
My expected sale for each is the following:
Willock - 5-8m
Dieng - 4-6m
Chair - 3m-5m
Dykes 2m-4m (only a club like Burnley or possible Rangers/Celtic?)
Dickie - 5m
Field - 3m
I always ask myself who will buy the player and that normall dictates the value. For most of them, it's a new PL team or at best a lower end one. Eze could've been snapped up by a better team than palace, but they still paid the money. Newcastle won't be buying unproven PL players from the championship unless it's as a backup / potential. Teams like Watford, Norwich, Burnley might come in but again. Not sure I can see any of them paying the 8 digit sums we want for most of these. Dykes isn't good enough for PL and would only really get us a fee if either he has a blinder for Scotland or gets targetted by Rangers/Celtic. Dickie might go for more than I suggest, but it's dependant on who comes in. He doesn't have pace and any well scouted PL team will know this and probably not gamble. I think Field is actually only player who will this time next year be our biggest asset if he continues as he is. I actually see more of the top end champship spenders coming in for our players than actual PL ones. | | | |
| The next Eze on 16:45 - Apr 19 with 3339 views | PinnerPaul |
Said it before but can't see anyone buying Willock, Dieng or Dickie after their long spells out.
Of those only Willock would attract a decent offer in Jan I think, IF he continues as he is of course. | | | |
| The next Eze on 17:00 - Apr 19 with 3283 views | switchingcode |
| The next Eze on 16:24 - Apr 19 by GaxZE |
Willock is effectively 2024, as we have an option to extend. https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/chris-willock-completes-qpr-switch/
That said, we're not getting eze money for him. He's not quite there yet. He and Dieng I feel are our most valuable assets. Dieng will only go if there is a space for him at ____ club.
My expected sale for each is the following:
Willock - 5-8m
Dieng - 4-6m
Chair - 3m-5m
Dykes 2m-4m (only a club like Burnley or possible Rangers/Celtic?)
Dickie - 5m
Field - 3m
I always ask myself who will buy the player and that normall dictates the value. For most of them, it's a new PL team or at best a lower end one. Eze could've been snapped up by a better team than palace, but they still paid the money. Newcastle won't be buying unproven PL players from the championship unless it's as a backup / potential. Teams like Watford, Norwich, Burnley might come in but again. Not sure I can see any of them paying the 8 digit sums we want for most of these. Dykes isn't good enough for PL and would only really get us a fee if either he has a blinder for Scotland or gets targetted by Rangers/Celtic. Dickie might go for more than I suggest, but it's dependant on who comes in. He doesn't have pace and any well scouted PL team will know this and probably not gamble. I think Field is actually only player who will this time next year be our biggest asset if he continues as he is. I actually see more of the top end champship spenders coming in for our players than actual PL ones. |
Very fair assumption as the step up to the PL is massive and the days of big transfer fees for EFL players have reduced.Many PL clubs have their own prospects loaned out in the leagues anyway.Johnson at Forrest is the hottest prospect I would think,Brentford bid 18 mill for him in Jan but was turned down and I’m sure other bigger clubs will be in for him if Forrest don’t go up. | | | |
| The next Eze on 17:21 - Apr 19 with 3219 views | LazyFan |
I think Warbs hinted that clubs were after Dickie and he may go in the summer, but that's just a guess.
If so, I think we can lose Dickie as Dunne has done so well and we do have the Dutchie to come back who while injury-prone is a decent defender. Sanderson while raw, may come cheap and might be a useful prospect.
I like that Derby player Malcolm Ebiowei skinned Mccallum 3 times on sheer pace alone during the game and cut inside nicely a few times. Only 18 too.
I think we will sell Dieng as well, but goal keepers seem easier to replace and cheaply than forwards, I think we need to keep all our forwards for now if we can. |  |
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| The next Eze on 17:59 - Apr 19 with 3147 views | swisscottage |
Personally I think Dunne will eclipse all but Willock for sell on with another year under his belt. How we got him for free is astonishing. | | | |
| The next Eze on 18:21 - Apr 19 with 3097 views | stevec |
Quite a number of decent players which makes me wonder whether we should be doing better. |  | | |
| The next Eze on 18:56 - Apr 19 with 3003 views | Myke |
Amos is another that I hadn't included, but if he got another injury free season under his belt (and more game time) he could be a serious asset in 12 months. Goal-scoring midfielders are always in demand and we know he was genuine PL quality before his first ACL injury, so developmentally he has not as far to go. | | | |
| The next Eze on 19:39 - Apr 19 with 2907 views | dmm |
Amos' contract runs to 2023 with no option for a further year. I'd like to see us offer him a new contract this summer. |  | | |
| The next Eze on 19:42 - Apr 19 with 2897 views | nix |
| The next Eze on 18:21 - Apr 19 by stevec |
Quite a number of decent players which makes me wonder whether we should be doing better. |
Have you noticed that Willock, Dieng and Dickie are not actually playing at the moment?
Dykes missed a substantial part of the season in two long periods out.
We at one point had all four fullbacks out, two of them for long periods. We've had to use five goalies this season.
And Chair was also missing and then came back not match fit so has taken a while to come back to full effectiveness.
But, yeah, why aren't we doing better? |  | | |
| The next Eze on 19:54 - Apr 19 with 2858 views | GroveR |
| The next Eze on 19:42 - Apr 19 by nix |
Have you noticed that Willock, Dieng and Dickie are not actually playing at the moment?
Dykes missed a substantial part of the season in two long periods out.
We at one point had all four fullbacks out, two of them for long periods. We've had to use five goalies this season.
And Chair was also missing and then came back not match fit so has taken a while to come back to full effectiveness.
But, yeah, why aren't we doing better? |
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BUY A FÙCKING STRIKER!!1!
Sorry, thought this was Twà tter. |  | | |
| The next Eze on 19:58 - Apr 19 with 2822 views | davman |
| The next Eze on 16:24 - Apr 19 by GaxZE |
Willock is effectively 2024, as we have an option to extend. https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/chris-willock-completes-qpr-switch/
That said, we're not getting eze money for him. He's not quite there yet. He and Dieng I feel are our most valuable assets. Dieng will only go if there is a space for him at ____ club.
My expected sale for each is the following:
Willock - 5-8m
Dieng - 4-6m
Chair - 3m-5m
Dykes 2m-4m (only a club like Burnley or possible Rangers/Celtic?)
Dickie - 5m
Field - 3m
I always ask myself who will buy the player and that normall dictates the value. For most of them, it's a new PL team or at best a lower end one. Eze could've been snapped up by a better team than palace, but they still paid the money. Newcastle won't be buying unproven PL players from the championship unless it's as a backup / potential. Teams like Watford, Norwich, Burnley might come in but again. Not sure I can see any of them paying the 8 digit sums we want for most of these. Dykes isn't good enough for PL and would only really get us a fee if either he has a blinder for Scotland or gets targetted by Rangers/Celtic. Dickie might go for more than I suggest, but it's dependant on who comes in. He doesn't have pace and any well scouted PL team will know this and probably not gamble. I think Field is actually only player who will this time next year be our biggest asset if he continues as he is. I actually see more of the top end champship spenders coming in for our players than actual PL ones. |
I'm not going to play the game of whether your valuations are anywhere near the truth as they are only going to be worth what someone wants to spend on them, but let's assumed that we will get 50% of what we get from each of them to replace them.
Willock - if he still has two years, hold out for £10m or he stays.
Dieng - I think that he is excellent, but we could pick up a decent replacement for around £2m or lower, so if we get £5m (unlikely), it'd be sell, sell, sell.
Chair - just get him signed up; we should aim to keep him forever...
Dykes - he had his best game for ages on Monday and we know how tough it would be to get a replacement in. Keep him this season and hope that Scotland qualifies for the World Cup and he gets a couple to put his valuation up. Even £4m isn't enough for me to sell him - I don't rate him, but he is our most effective no. 9 at the moment. Get someone in and when they can replace him, then think about cashing in. Unconvinced anyone would spend any more than £3m on him, but equally unconvinced we can replace him with a finished product any better for that sort of money.
Dickie - if De Wijs is coming back and we re-sign Barbet; we don't need Dickie, so £5m or more - sell, sell. Could pick up a decent CB for £2m I reckon... (Sanderson?)
Field - no need to sell, he is young and will get better and better if he can avoid having a yellow card per game. If he carries on next season, give him an improved contract. A great player, but unlikely to attract serious offers... |  |
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| The next Eze on 20:44 - Apr 19 with 2730 views | Rangersw12 |
We have a 20% sell on clause for Eze so let's hope Newcastle sign him for 50 million so don't have to sell anyone | | | |
| The next Eze on 21:29 - Apr 19 with 2648 views | LazyFan |
| The next Eze on 20:44 - Apr 19 by Rangersw12 |
We have a 20% sell on clause for Eze so let's hope Newcastle sign him for 50 million so don't have to sell anyone |
Good point. But I suspect he will only sell for £25m. But that will be enough with £5m going to us. | |
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| The next Eze on 21:55 - Apr 19 with 2615 views | nix |
| The next Eze on 19:54 - Apr 19 by GroveR |
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BUY A FÙCKING STRIKER!!1!
Sorry, thought this was Twà tter. |
PARDON?
Ha, fair enough...but who though? | | | |
| The next Eze on 21:57 - Apr 19 with 2611 views | nix |
| The next Eze on 21:29 - Apr 19 by LazyFan |
Good point. But I suspect he will only sell for £25m. But that will be enough with £5m going to us. |
I think you only get 20% of the profit, don't you? | | | |
| The next Eze on 22:14 - Apr 19 with 2567 views | benhurst |
| The next Eze on 21:57 - Apr 19 by nix |
I think you only get 20% of the profit, don't you? |
When the Newcastle move was initially rumoured someone on here mentioned that our deal with Palace was 20% of whatever they sell him for rather than 20% of the profit. If that is the case, a great bit of business from us! | | | |
| The next Eze on 22:37 - Apr 19 with 2516 views | switchingcode |
| The next Eze on 21:57 - Apr 19 by nix |
I think you only get 20% of the profit, don't you? |
Yes | | | |
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