| Gaffer on tonight's defeat 23:25 - Nov 8 with 6568 views | bosh67 |
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He's f*cking fuming. I can see everyone getting a real rocket over the next few days. We can't accuse him of covering up. If you drum in time after time how to defend and then you don't then you're entitled to look at the mentality of your team. In a strange way, although this feels like Groundhog Day from last season we do have this break coming up. I think Mick will use most of it to discover how to instil some kind of mentality monster in this squad and I think he will work behind the scenes to find a dedicated second striker.
I said to someone tonight we wouldn't have relied on Zamora up front on his own and Dykes works his socks off but he is very similar to Zamora in many ways. I can see us pushing to get Archer in or someone who has some record of scoring as a striker in early January, admittedly without any money to spend. We all want Armstrong to be a huge player for us and he probably will be but he hasn't actually scored a goal yet so I feel we are over pressurising the kid.
Incredibly annoying tonight but I for one was pleased to see Mick actually obviously containing absolute rage. The reality of the lack of mentality issue is clearly not lost on him and he very much refers to it here. |  |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:49 - Nov 9 with 1605 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:14 - Nov 9 by gazza1 |
The Huddersfield keeper was OK, and so were the defenders around him (apart from our goal) but we did not create any real 'proper decent' chances. |
It's been a problem for the last few games alright. |  |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:07 - Nov 9 with 1568 views | ManinBlack |
One thing the manager needs to work on is our inability to score second half goals at the Loft end. We are relying on good first half's to win at home. Most of the top sides have yet to visit so we need to put this right when the season resumes. At present you might as well go to the pub at half time as nothing to see goals wise second half. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:09 - Nov 9 with 1556 views | Mick_S |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:07 - Nov 9 by ManinBlack |
One thing the manager needs to work on is our inability to score second half goals at the Loft end. We are relying on good first half's to win at home. Most of the top sides have yet to visit so we need to put this right when the season resumes. At present you might as well go to the pub at half time as nothing to see goals wise second half. |
We could kick off towards The Loft but I think that would freak me out. [Post edited 9 Nov 2022 11:14]
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:13 - Nov 9 with 1539 views | BklynRanger |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:14 - Nov 9 by gazza1 |
The Huddersfield keeper was OK, and so were the defenders around him (apart from our goal) but we did not create any real 'proper decent' chances. |
He made what looked like an excellent save from Richard's header which would have levelled things - fine margins |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:17 - Nov 9 with 1511 views | gobbles |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:49 - Nov 9 by BrianMcCarthy |
It's been a problem for the last few games alright. |
To be fair, Chair had a massive chance that he pushed Tim out of the way for and then completely miss-hit it, while Dykes snatched at his chance when he had an open goal.
The main problem was the slowness of build-up and guys like Tim I not getting in the box enough. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:20 - Nov 9 with 1495 views | NorthantsHoop |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:09 - Nov 9 by Mick_S |
We could kick off towards The Loft but I think that would freak me out. [Post edited 9 Nov 2022 11:14]
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The only goals we have been treated to at the loft end this season is from the away teams and it is getting really annoying to be honest. Three home goals, and only one from outfield play. We have only scored 1 second half goal at the loft end and that was a penalty. More worryingly we have only scored two second half goals at home this season. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:26 - Nov 9 with 1470 views | Rangers67 |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:20 - Nov 9 by NorthantsHoop |
The only goals we have been treated to at the loft end this season is from the away teams and it is getting really annoying to be honest. Three home goals, and only one from outfield play. We have only scored 1 second half goal at the loft end and that was a penalty. More worryingly we have only scored two second half goals at home this season. |
Therein lies one of the major problems, the lack of a decent forward. Sadly for the people who think Dykes is good enough or are happy with his input it isn,t good enough. He is not by any means the only problem , Tyler Roberts when he can be bothered to be fit is even worse and distinctly disinterested. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:37 - Nov 9 with 1442 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:20 - Nov 9 by NorthantsHoop |
The only goals we have been treated to at the loft end this season is from the away teams and it is getting really annoying to be honest. Three home goals, and only one from outfield play. We have only scored 1 second half goal at the loft end and that was a penalty. More worryingly we have only scored two second half goals at home this season. |
The 1 from outfield play being when Chair gambled on a first time cross without looking up, just put it into the near-post where his Centre Forward should be attacking, and Dykes was and scored.
I thought this was a turning point in that Beale's message was stop over-playing, get your head up and get quality ball in early (like Willock does and did last night) and if the Centre Forwards not doing his job he'll be in my office on Monday.
Just Unfortunately seems to have been a one-off. | | | |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 12:33 - Nov 9 with 1394 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:26 - Nov 9 by Rangers67 |
Therein lies one of the major problems, the lack of a decent forward. Sadly for the people who think Dykes is good enough or are happy with his input it isn,t good enough. He is not by any means the only problem , Tyler Roberts when he can be bothered to be fit is even worse and distinctly disinterested. |
Dykes has done a decent job for us (1 goal every 4 games) but he's not a natural striker and playing him up front on his own at home to the bottom side was a mistake.
I'm confident Beale will get a couple of strikers in on loan in January. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 13:00 - Nov 9 with 1369 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:13 - Nov 9 by BrianMcCarthy |
I thought the crossing was poor, Toast, very poor.
Far often it seemed either too slow, or straight at the first man. |
Agree. Sure, there were a few crosses popped into the box but more often than not they were delivered from deeper positions and poorly executed. These types of crosses are far easier to defend because the defender has his back to goal. What we lacked last night was the crossing of earlier in the season. Wing-backs overlapping and delivering crosses from the bye-line. These are more dangerous because defenders are more uncomfortable facing their own goal. The one time that we did get in behind and deliver a cross from the bye-line resulted in our goal! After going behind, the team looked a little desperate and forgot the recipe for success. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 13:10 - Nov 9 with 1351 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 07:20 - Nov 9 by ParkRoyalR |
That one is on Beale imo and I think he recognised that at Half Time by hooking Balogun for Dunne.
Dunne was on the floor and just devastated at Full Time, do Balogun and Clarke Salter care that much?
If Clarke Salter walks back into the team whenever available, despite Beale saying players have to earn the right to play, he needs to show his much vaunted technical ability.
Clarke Salters lack of courage was evident throughout the 2nd Half by refusing to step up and carry the ball into the space in front of him but instead pass to Dunne and expect him to do it, even tho he's for some the least technical of our 4 Centre Halves,
Dunne took risks for the team last night when in possession whereas Clarke Salter played it safe and hid,
Beale has to learn the Championship is not u23 academy type football and you need players who care and put the team above themselves,
And harsh as it is to say after again showing real courage, never hiding and working his socks off for the team, but teach Chair what Viera has taught Zaha, the ball and attack moves quicker if you pass the ball and don't take 5 touches everytime you receive it. |
Agree about Chair. He's obviously a fine player who cares. However, last night he tried too hard to be the difference maker by attempting low percentage plays. Too often he overlooked a simple alternative that would've resulted in a more dangerous attack. He even pushed aside a team-mate who was in a better position to strike on goal. To get to the next level, Chair needs to add composure and know-how to obvious technical ability and will-to-win. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 13:14 - Nov 9 with 1343 views | Benny_the_Ball |
On the OP, to date Beale has protected the players by deflecting criticism to himself. For the first time, he looks very angry and left the audience under no illusion that the team needs to buck its ideas up. Question is, does the team have the mental fortitude to take it on the chin and improve? [Post edited 9 Nov 2022 13:19]
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 14:41 - Nov 9 with 1249 views | Northernr |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 13:10 - Nov 9 by Benny_the_Ball |
Agree about Chair. He's obviously a fine player who cares. However, last night he tried too hard to be the difference maker by attempting low percentage plays. Too often he overlooked a simple alternative that would've resulted in a more dangerous attack. He even pushed aside a team-mate who was in a better position to strike on goal. To get to the next level, Chair needs to add composure and know-how to obvious technical ability and will-to-win. |
That's a good post mate. I felt very sorry for him, because you couldn't fault him for effort, he ran himself into the ground and tried absolutely everything he could to get us out of the sht, but like you say perhaps that was part of the problem. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 16:05 - Nov 9 with 1147 views | kensalriser |
Chair takes too much on his own shoulders because not enough of his teammates have the skill or the courage to share the load. |  |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 16:10 - Nov 9 with 1128 views | PinnerPaul |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 09:21 - Nov 9 by WokingR |
I get the bit about putting everything on the line but with 3 games a week you can't keep doing that and there was an awful lot more that was down to him and how he set the team up last night.
In the first 15-20 minutes the combination of Paal, Willock and Chair down the left looked like it was capable of tearing Huddersfield apart all night. Unfortunately, Willock barely had 20 minutes in him last night and just faded out of the game so why he was left to labour away, achieving nothing other than a bit of match fitness needs to be looked at.
On the other side, Laird didn't look like he had a clue how to play with Adomah already ahead of him in the space he would usually attack. There was no interchange or overlapping at all. I get that while we are playing 3 games every week, there isn't the time to practice these new pairings on the training ground so why expect it to magically happen in a match? Unless there was an injury, taking Laird off and leaving Adomah to labour away was another big mistake. He hasn't played much recently and, although he was willing to chase everything, he was not sharp or up to speed at all. Another one who should be getting minutes in on the training ground or reserve matches and not where 3 points are at stake |
Agree about Albert/Laird - Albert did his best but really should have come off 15/20 minutes earlier. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 16:11 - Nov 9 with 1120 views | PinnerPaul |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 09:48 - Nov 9 by Toast_R |
Basically..... we let in two dog sh*t goals and Huddersfield parked the bus. That type of match doesn't seem to suit this QPR team who get far more joy counter attacking and working the ball wide quickly. Possibly a reason why our home form isn't that great this season.
We threw cross after cross in but don't have anyone in up there who dominates the box. Dare I say it, we were crying out for a Matt Smith type player last night. Pretty sure Charlie Austin would have found the space...
Ugly and frustrating [Post edited 9 Nov 2022 9:58]
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Spot on Toast! | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 16:15 - Nov 9 with 1099 views | PinnerPaul |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:14 - Nov 9 by gazza1 |
The Huddersfield keeper was OK, and so were the defenders around him (apart from our goal) but we did not create any real 'proper decent' chances. |
1) The goal
2) Richards header
3) Richards shot cleared off the line
4) Tims near post shot - good save
5) Chair ( I think) - bit of camera save - but still a chance
We weren't great, but 36 shots and their GK being worked doesn't equal NO chances created. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 16:17 - Nov 9 with 1096 views | PinnerPaul |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:37 - Nov 9 by stainrods_elbow |
Sure, Chair was trying - very trying. For me, all the limitations and frustrations in his game were on display last night. If you can't see that he hogs the ball and actually limits our options by helping the defending team to organise and get into shape when he plays like that, that's too bad.
Albert saw a lot of the ball, but his deliveries often fell short. His inclusion also inhibited Laird, though Paal wasn't much better on the other side.
Seny needs to look at himself after being caught out by two lobs that made him look like an idiot.
For me, Dunne and Richards' cameo were about the only positives to take. Willock was out of sorts/unfit, Tim did two bad things for every one good thing, and Dykes, despite his tap-in, was Dykes.
As for the shithousery/reffing, like a few people here, it's turning me off football. |
Agree about Chair. Not the only one, but surely they realise at this level, if you give a defence 5 minutes notice that a cross is coming in, they are going to deal with it.
Even Mick contrasted the speed of delivery for the goal v most of what followed. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 16:20 - Nov 9 with 1088 views | PinnerPaul |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:09 - Nov 9 by Mick_S |
We could kick off towards The Loft but I think that would freak me out. [Post edited 9 Nov 2022 11:14]
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Only if we win the toss Mick, or the other team choose to kick off!
Last night Huddersfield chose ends as we kicked off 1st half. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 17:35 - Nov 9 with 971 views | Logman |
Still huge amounts of work needed to be done as things stand. We already know that the stand-in players are not match winners and one or two who came in/on last night need more time and confidence. We are also now seeing that one or two of the signings who are starters have their weaknesses too, which is natural. This season we are going to continue to see blips. These things take quite some time to iron out. Keep the faith and don't diss 16th just yet. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 17:39 - Nov 9 with 948 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Before we canonise Chair, there has been at least one incident in every recent game where he has ignored team-mates in very dangerous positions and chose to keep dribbling to no effect.
I love the lad, and he's my POTY so far by a distance, but he's reverting to old ways of late in certain situations and he needs to imrpve on it. | |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 17:52 - Nov 9 with 921 views | WatfordR |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 17:39 - Nov 9 by BrianMcCarthy |
Before we canonise Chair, there has been at least one incident in every recent game where he has ignored team-mates in very dangerous positions and chose to keep dribbling to no effect.
I love the lad, and he's my POTY so far by a distance, but he's reverting to old ways of late in certain situations and he needs to imrpve on it. |
I don't think I've ever seen Chair misplace passes and lose the ball like he did last night. The one thing no one has mentioned is him being made captain and in my opinion he was just trying too hard as a result. He'll either learn from that and cope (with MB's help and the staff around him) or he won't and captaincy won't be for him.
Nothing more to it than that. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 18:04 - Nov 9 with 883 views | Damo1962 |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 11:20 - Nov 9 by NorthantsHoop |
The only goals we have been treated to at the loft end this season is from the away teams and it is getting really annoying to be honest. Three home goals, and only one from outfield play. We have only scored 1 second half goal at the loft end and that was a penalty. More worryingly we have only scored two second half goals at home this season. |
That sounds even worse than I thought. Hope it concentrates the minds of MB and the players during the break | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 18:11 - Nov 9 with 878 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 17:39 - Nov 9 by BrianMcCarthy |
Before we canonise Chair, there has been at least one incident in every recent game where he has ignored team-mates in very dangerous positions and chose to keep dribbling to no effect.
I love the lad, and he's my POTY so far by a distance, but he's reverting to old ways of late in certain situations and he needs to imrpve on it. |
Brian, and I'd rather not go there, but interesting another poster mentioned Beale contrasting the speed of the delivery for our 1st goal with what followed, none of this cut outside, cut back inside, and repeat, that we see when Chair is trying too hard,
And to be pedantic, its not that he ignores his team-mates, its just when he starts running at pace with the ball he runs, he drops his head down and just does'nt see the options around him,
Still, if we could bottle up his desire and will to win and share it with a few others last night we would'nt have been chasing the game and watch him run himself into the ground in search of an equaliser. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 19:33 - Nov 9 with 827 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 18:11 - Nov 9 by ParkRoyalR |
Brian, and I'd rather not go there, but interesting another poster mentioned Beale contrasting the speed of the delivery for our 1st goal with what followed, none of this cut outside, cut back inside, and repeat, that we see when Chair is trying too hard,
And to be pedantic, its not that he ignores his team-mates, its just when he starts running at pace with the ball he runs, he drops his head down and just does'nt see the options around him,
Still, if we could bottle up his desire and will to win and share it with a few others last night we would'nt have been chasing the game and watch him run himself into the ground in search of an equaliser. |
"And to be pedantic, its not that he ignores his team-mates, its just when he starts running at pace with the ball he runs, he drops his head down and just does'nt see the options around him,"
He can do that, very true ParkRoyal. But he also sees passes with his head up and ignores them. | |
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