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OUT WITH A DEAL EATING OUR CAKE AND LOVING IT suck it up remoaners
And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite šššššš
Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.
It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.
The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:09 - Sep 3 by londonlisa2001
Quite a few have been interviewed who voted to leave. I was listening to a couple this afternoon. They said they still want to leave. They just think the prorogation is wrong.
I find that a lot, Lis. Rigid adherence to Parliamentary procedure tops the daily worries list of just about everybody on the bus queue at the Quadrant of a morning.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:14 - Sep 3 with 1212 views
Crace eviscerates yet another failed and hopeless Prime Minister. āGame Theory for Dommiesā ;just genius.
For all the talk about how great a politician Johnson is and how magic a touch he has, he certainly seems to be a bit, well, sh*t so far... As I said, when the bluster fails, thereās no substance. Just a nasty temper.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:15 - Sep 3 with 1206 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:14 - Sep 3 by Lohengrin
I find that a lot, Lis. Rigid adherence to Parliamentary procedure tops the daily worries list of just about everybody on the bus queue at the Quadrant of a morning.
Yeah, it seems that the time many cared (and they really, really cared because they kept saying so) about parliamentary sovereignty has gone. How fleeting their concern. Or convenient. Who knows.
Btw - āparliamentary procedureā is not a fair description what this is about.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:25 - Sep 3 with 1157 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:20 - Sep 3 by londonlisa2001
Yeah, it seems that the time many cared (and they really, really cared because they kept saying so) about parliamentary sovereignty has gone. How fleeting their concern. Or convenient. Who knows.
Btw - āparliamentary procedureā is not a fair description what this is about.
Pretty fair. The ghosts of Erskine May and Dicey were raised enough this evening to make it a reasonable enough comment.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:26 - Sep 3 with 1148 views
Turns out there are 92 pro govt amendments to the opposition business motion in the House of Lords. The opposition motion says the Hilary Benn bill should be considered in the lords over two days - Thursday and Friday
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:01 - Sep 3 by Jango
No Warwick, I think youāre losing your marbles with age. I reminded you of when you ridiculed those suggesting no deal was still very much on the table 6 months ago and here we are. Iāve always been of the opinion that weāll get a deal through at the last moment and I still hope we do. Turn the wireless off, blow out the candle and get some sleep.
You trumpeted the other day that leaving at the end of October was now a certainty. I canāt be arsed to look for it. Everyone saw it.
If you really believe this ālast minute dealā fantasy then youāre thicker than I thought.
Cummings called the āBrussels negotiationsā a āshamā, no one in Brussels has heard a word from the UK and itās emerged that the ānegotiating teamā had been disbanded and are back in London.
How did you think a deal was going to be done when Boris obviously didnāt want one and couldnāt even be arsed to make a token effort? Osmosis? Telepathy? Rock, paper, scissors?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:27 - Sep 3 with 1143 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:14 - Sep 3 by Lohengrin
I find that a lot, Lis. Rigid adherence to Parliamentary procedure tops the daily worries list of just about everybody on the bus queue at the Quadrant of a morning.
Yes and they often express their disappointment at the abuse of parliamentary procedure by waving giant eu flags and shouting ābollocks to brexitā
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:26 - Sep 3 by WarwickHunt
You trumpeted the other day that leaving at the end of October was now a certainty. I canāt be arsed to look for it. Everyone saw it.
If you really believe this ālast minute dealā fantasy then youāre thicker than I thought.
Cummings called the āBrussels negotiationsā a āshamā, no one in Brussels has heard a word from the UK and itās emerged that the ānegotiating teamā had been disbanded and are back in London.
How did you think a deal was going to be done when Boris obviously didnāt want one and couldnāt even be arsed to make a token effort? Osmosis? Telepathy? Rock, paper, scissors?
Pointless looking, you wonāt find it. Iāve said all along that if the EU think no deal is a certainty theyāll blink. That was only ever gonna happen in October where I hoped a deal would be struck.
Hope thatās cleared up the confusion on your part.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:40 - Sep 3 with 1091 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:33 - Sep 3 by Jango
Pointless looking, you wonāt find it. Iāve said all along that if the EU think no deal is a certainty theyāll blink. That was only ever gonna happen in October where I hoped a deal would be struck.
Hope thatās cleared up the confusion on your part.
No confusion,āmateā.
They wonāt blink. It was never an option. Itās even more remote now if thatās possible.
Thereās no deal. Boris didnāt want one. He never tried. He knew the backstop was non-negotiable.
You were sold a pup. Has the penny dropped yet?
Take your time...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:41 - Sep 3 with 1089 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:27 - Sep 3 by Highjack
Yes and they often express their disappointment at the abuse of parliamentary procedure by waving giant eu flags and shouting ābollocks to brexitā
A lot of union flags as well in London.
As I said, itās mainly pro remain people, but thatās not the point of the protest.
If Corbyn had done it, it would be mainly Tory protests, but some Labour people would also consider it a step too far to abandon the primacy of parliament.
Anyway, it really doesnāt seem worth arguing about - I was only trying to explain why they went to the statue of Nye Bevan. I donāt much care. The important stuff was happening in parliament.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:43 - Sep 3 with 1083 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:26 - Sep 3 by Jango
Turns out there are 92 pro govt amendments to the opposition business motion in the House of Lords. The opposition motion says the Hilary Benn bill should be considered in the lords over two days - Thursday and Friday
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:57 - Sep 3 by Highjack
Things should be talked about and debated. Just railroading things through is profoundly undemocratic.
I see what you did there
Such brazen lying, but then the gloves have been off for a long time.
Ultimately, it all boils down to, the British public voted for Brexit and would do so again. The 'Remainers' know this, deep down, they surely can sense that the public have not only had enough of being talked down to by the EU but are also sick to death of exactly the type of people you see on these anti-Brexit protests...sick to the back teeth of them and their hypocrisy. That's my experience anyway and I talk to a lot of people, a lot of people in Labour heartlands, and beyond the anecdotal evidence the polling backs it up, the result of the original referendum backs it up and the subsequent elections (GE and European elections) backs this up.
They know this of course and are sh*it scared of facing the voters. The whole strategy from day 1 has been to delay and delay and delay....they are hoping that enough Brexit voters die off and are replaced by young and stupid voters who will vote for what they are told to vote for.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:12 - Sep 4 by Kerouac
I see what you did there
Such brazen lying, but then the gloves have been off for a long time.
Ultimately, it all boils down to, the British public voted for Brexit and would do so again. The 'Remainers' know this, deep down, they surely can sense that the public have not only had enough of being talked down to by the EU but are also sick to death of exactly the type of people you see on these anti-Brexit protests...sick to the back teeth of them and their hypocrisy. That's my experience anyway and I talk to a lot of people, a lot of people in Labour heartlands, and beyond the anecdotal evidence the polling backs it up, the result of the original referendum backs it up and the subsequent elections (GE and European elections) backs this up.
They know this of course and are sh*it scared of facing the voters. The whole strategy from day 1 has been to delay and delay and delay....they are hoping that enough Brexit voters die off and are replaced by young and stupid voters who will vote for what they are told to vote for.
The polling doesnāt back it up though.
If the polling did back it up Johnson would call a second referendum. Heās not because he thinks he can game the FPTP system with a pact with Farage.
Weāll soon see anyway. The only way this ends is a general election or another referendum.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 01:03 - Sep 4 with 988 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:18 - Sep 4 by londonlisa2001
The polling doesnāt back it up though.
If the polling did back it up Johnson would call a second referendum. Heās not because he thinks he can game the FPTP system with a pact with Farage.
Weāll soon see anyway. The only way this ends is a general election or another referendum.
There a paper running a story along those lines. If Johnson is prepared to deal with Farage itās clear that his intent is to take us out on a No Deal basis. The traditional Conservative press is raging this evening and people like Clarke, Soames and Hammond are in the firing line, itās crazy because these people have been pillars of the Conservative party and the establishment and they are being savaged and marginalised by the extreme right of their Party.
I voted to Leave and my preference would still be to leave, but only with a decent deal which could have been negotiated had there been less shenanigans and posturing and more focus and pragmatism. Given a choice of No Deal or Remain, then itās the latter every time.
We now have a Prime Minster who is untrustworthy ( yes I know met politicians are slippery and liars) but Boris is on another level. I hope heās booted out of office sharpish, but the Conservative press is rallying around him and savaging his opposition.
If Labour had someone like Starmer in charge they would trounce Boris at the next election, but against Corbyn I see him winning.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 02:01 - Sep 4 with 969 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:12 - Sep 4 by Kerouac
I see what you did there
Such brazen lying, but then the gloves have been off for a long time.
Ultimately, it all boils down to, the British public voted for Brexit and would do so again. The 'Remainers' know this, deep down, they surely can sense that the public have not only had enough of being talked down to by the EU but are also sick to death of exactly the type of people you see on these anti-Brexit protests...sick to the back teeth of them and their hypocrisy. That's my experience anyway and I talk to a lot of people, a lot of people in Labour heartlands, and beyond the anecdotal evidence the polling backs it up, the result of the original referendum backs it up and the subsequent elections (GE and European elections) backs this up.
They know this of course and are sh*it scared of facing the voters. The whole strategy from day 1 has been to delay and delay and delay....they are hoping that enough Brexit voters die off and are replaced by young and stupid voters who will vote for what they are told to vote for.
Young voters are far from stupid. I think they are more switched on to the lies than the oldies these days tbh.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 08:49 - Sep 4 by jackrmee
Young voters are far from stupid. I think they are more switched on to the lies than the oldies these days tbh.
Quite funny, isn't he, old Kerouac?
Him and his ilk accuse the 'remoaners' (sic) of being patronising, talking down to Brexiteers and calling them thick because they don't agree, but when young people can see through the lies of the fascist regime of Johnson, they are all 'young and stupid'.
Anyway, I think the Labour Party and chums are playing it pretty well at the moment.
I would suggest that the next tactic, when Johnson introduces his bill for a General Election on 15th October, is to make support for it conditional on him giving a legally binding commitment that he won't change the date under any circumstances.
Of course he won't do that, which will make it plain to everyone (specially the great British voting public) what a lying little sh1t he is. Throw the spotlight back on him, boys, he doesn't like it up him!
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