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Churchill and Wales 10:57 - Jan 17 with 24645 viewstrampie


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Churchill and Wales on 17:52 - Jan 17 with 1592 viewstrampie

Churchill and Wales on 17:48 - Jan 17 by Lohengrin

I didn't say it had, Tramp. I said there was a Socialist Labour Party in existence and wondered why you didn't support it?

"True people on the left?" ha!


Because Scargill has no tactical nous, he has ideas but no knowledge how to implement them, look at the miners strike involving him, the miners would have won with a good leader.

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Churchill and Wales on 18:00 - Jan 17 with 1589 viewsHighjack

Churchill and Wales on 17:52 - Jan 17 by trampie

Because Scargill has no tactical nous, he has ideas but no knowledge how to implement them, look at the miners strike involving him, the miners would have won with a good leader.


Didn't Leanne say she was involved in the miners strikes? If only she could have led them to glory.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Churchill and Wales on 18:17 - Jan 17 with 1573 viewsLord_Bony

Churchill and Wales on 17:28 - Jan 17 by Treforys_Jack

You do realise he was a product of Victorian nobility which explains some of his less appealing traits. However as i see it without him we would have undoubtedly gone under in 1940.


Without him wed be speaking german now.

A weaker leader would have capitulated with Hitler.

Going to see.the movie.Darkest Hour tonight.

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Churchill and Wales on 18:19 - Jan 17 with 1567 viewslifelong

Churchill and Wales on 18:17 - Jan 17 by Lord_Bony

Without him wed be speaking german now.

A weaker leader would have capitulated with Hitler.

Going to see.the movie.Darkest Hour tonight.


Watched it recently...very good film.
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Churchill and Wales on 18:26 - Jan 17 with 1559 viewsLord_Bony

Very good sir.

We will fight them in the air.
We will fight them in the sea etc

We will never surrender.

Truly inspirational.


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Churchill and Wales on 18:40 - Jan 17 with 1538 viewsJack_Meoff

Churchill and Wales on 18:17 - Jan 17 by Lord_Bony

Without him wed be speaking german now.

A weaker leader would have capitulated with Hitler.

Going to see.the movie.Darkest Hour tonight.


Germany never wanted war with Britain though LB.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.

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Churchill and Wales on 18:41 - Jan 17 with 1535 viewsLohengrin

Churchill and Wales on 18:26 - Jan 17 by Lord_Bony

Very good sir.

We will fight them in the air.
We will fight them in the sea etc

We will never surrender.

Truly inspirational.



Bony, the book Darkest Hour by Anthony McCarten published by Penguin to coincide with the film's release is superb, probably one of the more accessible accounts leading up to and just beyond the fall of France I've read.




The other title I would urge anybody to get a hold of is The Duel by John Lukacs. A ground breaking study in it's time (1990) it has lost none of power in the intervening years. Essential reading.


An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Churchill and Wales on 18:45 - Jan 17 with 1524 viewstaffpunk

The 'Tonypandy Riots' is what he's most famous for in Wales. My Record Shop is in Pandy, any chance of another one, it would improve the town centre considerably.

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Churchill and Wales on 18:46 - Jan 17 with 1522 viewsLoyal

Self serving control freak who lived off the tax payer after office.

Nolan sympathiser, clout expert, personal friend of Leigh Dineen, advocate and enforcer of porridge swallows. The official inventor of the tit w@nk.
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Churchill and Wales on 18:47 - Jan 17 with 1519 viewsLohengrin

Churchill and Wales on 18:45 - Jan 17 by taffpunk

The 'Tonypandy Riots' is what he's most famous for in Wales. My Record Shop is in Pandy, any chance of another one, it would improve the town centre considerably.


I was there recently, Taff. I'd have bought you a pint in the De Winton if I'd known that was your neck of the woods.

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Churchill and Wales on 18:48 - Jan 17 with 1516 viewsLohengrin

Churchill and Wales on 18:46 - Jan 17 by Loyal

Self serving control freak who lived off the tax payer after office.


Don't be like that mun, Loyal. Trampie's not such a bad old stick.

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Churchill and Wales on 18:50 - Jan 17 with 1512 viewsHighjack

Churchill and Wales on 18:46 - Jan 17 by Loyal

Self serving control freak who lived off the tax payer after office.


Thought that was Blair?

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Churchill and Wales on 18:54 - Jan 17 with 1503 viewsLohengrin

Churchill and Wales on 18:50 - Jan 17 by Highjack

Thought that was Blair?


It would be pretty easy to describe three quarters of the political appointments to The Lords in exactly those terms, High. Easy and accurate.

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Churchill and Wales on 19:09 - Jan 17 with 1489 viewsexiledclaseboy

Churchill and Wales on 18:17 - Jan 17 by Lord_Bony

Without him wed be speaking german now.

A weaker leader would have capitulated with Hitler.

Going to see.the movie.Darkest Hour tonight.


Watched it at the weekend. It’s ok. Some scenes are faintly ridiculous and Gary Oldman overacts hs way through the whole thing. Decent watch though. John Lithgow’s Churchill in The Crown was far superior to Oldman’s.

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Churchill and Wales on 19:15 - Jan 17 with 1480 viewsLohengrin

Churchill and Wales on 19:09 - Jan 17 by exiledclaseboy

Watched it at the weekend. It’s ok. Some scenes are faintly ridiculous and Gary Oldman overacts hs way through the whole thing. Decent watch though. John Lithgow’s Churchill in The Crown was far superior to Oldman’s.


John Lithgow's turn was brilliant, Clase.

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Churchill and Wales on 19:17 - Jan 17 with 1477 viewsexiledclaseboy

Churchill and Wales on 19:15 - Jan 17 by Lohengrin

John Lithgow's turn was brilliant, Clase.


It was. The outstanding performance in an outstanding series. I’m missing him in series two. Eden and Macmillan aren’t as fun as Lithgow’s Churchill.

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Churchill and Wales on 19:22 - Jan 17 with 1475 viewsLohengrin

Churchill and Wales on 19:17 - Jan 17 by exiledclaseboy

It was. The outstanding performance in an outstanding series. I’m missing him in series two. Eden and Macmillan aren’t as fun as Lithgow’s Churchill.


I'm still winding my way through series one as and when I find the time.

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Churchill and Wales on 20:37 - Jan 17 with 1452 viewsLord_Bony

Churchill and Wales on 18:40 - Jan 17 by Jack_Meoff

Germany never wanted war with Britain though LB.


So how come they were ready to invade us with Operation Sealion in the summer of 1940?

If they hadn't lost air superiority over the channel because of The Battle of Britain they would have been marching up Whitehall soon after.

Churchill played a big part in this.

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Churchill and Wales on 20:55 - Jan 17 with 1429 viewsJack_Meoff

Churchill and Wales on 20:37 - Jan 17 by Lord_Bony

So how come they were ready to invade us with Operation Sealion in the summer of 1940?

If they hadn't lost air superiority over the channel because of The Battle of Britain they would have been marching up Whitehall soon after.

Churchill played a big part in this.


That was a year after Britain and France had declared war on Germany in Sept 1939.

Like I said, Hiltler didn’t want war with Britain. Of course after a nation receives a war declaration it’s going to defend itself.

I’m just saying is all. I think the 'we'd all be speaking German' line is a tad simplistic.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.

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Churchill and Wales on 21:00 - Jan 17 with 1417 viewsLord_Bony

Churchill and Wales on 20:55 - Jan 17 by Jack_Meoff

That was a year after Britain and France had declared war on Germany in Sept 1939.

Like I said, Hiltler didn’t want war with Britain. Of course after a nation receives a war declaration it’s going to defend itself.

I’m just saying is all. I think the 'we'd all be speaking German' line is a tad simplistic.


We could not trust that Nazi snake or his henchmen my friend.

Had we made a peace pact with them,history shows they would soon have dishonoured it and taken over the organs of the state and the military soon after.

Just look at the "peace pact" he had with Stalin. It was all a ploy to take over Russia.

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Churchill and Wales on 21:06 - Jan 17 with 1399 viewsexiledclaseboy

Churchill and Wales on 20:55 - Jan 17 by Jack_Meoff

That was a year after Britain and France had declared war on Germany in Sept 1939.

Like I said, Hiltler didn’t want war with Britain. Of course after a nation receives a war declaration it’s going to defend itself.

I’m just saying is all. I think the 'we'd all be speaking German' line is a tad simplistic.


That reads like you think Britain was the aggressor and Germany just trying to defend itself.

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Churchill and Wales on 21:07 - Jan 17 with 1395 viewsJack_Kass

Churchill and Wales on 20:55 - Jan 17 by Jack_Meoff

That was a year after Britain and France had declared war on Germany in Sept 1939.

Like I said, Hiltler didn’t want war with Britain. Of course after a nation receives a war declaration it’s going to defend itself.

I’m just saying is all. I think the 'we'd all be speaking German' line is a tad simplistic.


Whether he wanted it or not is irrelevant, the second the Nazi's stepped foot in Poland, he knew what the consquences of his actions, would be.

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Churchill and Wales on 21:13 - Jan 17 with 1385 viewsKilkennyjack

We will make old Winston Churchill smoke a woodbine every day ....

Great song of the people -simply repeat the above.

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Churchill and Wales on 21:13 - Jan 17 with 1384 viewsLord_Bony

Churchill and Wales on 21:07 - Jan 17 by Jack_Kass

Whether he wanted it or not is irrelevant, the second the Nazi's stepped foot in Poland, he knew what the consquences of his actions, would be.

[Post edited 17 Jan 2018 21:08]


Exactly.

If he wanted to avoid war with Britain and France 🇫🇷 (I think he would have taken those Frenchies double quick time after Poland ) then he would not have invaded Poland in Sep 39.

We let him take Austria and Czechoslovakia but he had to be stopped at that point.

Poland was the red line that took us into a world war.

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Churchill and Wales on 21:17 - Jan 17 with 1378 viewsKilkennyjack

Churchill and Wales on 14:55 - Jan 17 by BarrySwan

Is that Owain Glyndwr?

The chap who served in the English army and who was quite happy to live in the lap of luxury with lands and wealth maintained by Welsh peasants and serfs living in abject poverty and servitude under his control until he had a village nicked from under his nose by a neighbouring Lord of the manor which prompted him to go on the rampage?


He seemed quite happy with the situation whilst he was benefitting from having the local Welsh population toiling away for him and his family. Not quite so happy when he started to see it being snatched away.

Or are we talking about a different Glyndwr?
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Amazing he got it the top 10 people of the millenium then don’t you think ?

Wiki says .....

‘Only printing press inventor Johannn Gutenburg, William Shakespeare, William Caxton, who brought printing to Britain, Leonardo da Vinci, Elizabeth the First and the discoverer of electricity, Michael Faraday, were more important than one of the heroes of Welsh history’.

Perhaps you need to educate yourself...?

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