| Zonal Marking 21:43 - Nov 28 with 1797 views | Swanzay |
WBA did a job on us tonight..... |  | | |  |
| Zonal Marking on 21:46 - Nov 28 with 1770 views | bluey_the_blue |
I've never liked Zonal.
Man to man, each player has a clear role and responsibility. No excuses, you know who you're covering. Zonal, very easy to overload areas which then causes confusion - who picks up who? |  | | |
| Zonal Marking on 22:20 - Nov 28 with 1618 views | jasper_T |
| Zonal Marking on 21:46 - Nov 28 by bluey_the_blue |
I've never liked Zonal.
Man to man, each player has a clear role and responsibility. No excuses, you know who you're covering. Zonal, very easy to overload areas which then causes confusion - who picks up who? |
If you haven't got the players capable of going man to man teams like West Brom demolish you. Zonal's got far greater margin for error. No wondering about who is picking up players, you have your zone and attack the ball.
All the top teams use zones. Managers aren't just trying to be trendy, statistically it works better, with less specialists in the side and less training ground time dedicated to it. | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 22:35 - Nov 28 with 1565 views | Catullus |
Maybe, but our slow passing and lack of movement definitely helped them. | |
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| Zonal Marking on 22:48 - Nov 28 with 1524 views | oldcob |
| Zonal Marking on 22:35 - Nov 28 by Catullus |
Maybe, but our slow passing and lack of movement definitely helped them. |
We should keep a man on the far post at corners. It cost us tonight and lost count of how many other games this season' | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 22:48 - Nov 28 with 1522 views | jasper_T |
| Zonal Marking on 22:48 - Nov 28 by oldcob |
We should keep a man on the far post at corners. It cost us tonight and lost count of how many other games this season' |
Most important zone when I was a kid. | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 07:18 - Nov 29 with 1375 views | NeathJack |
There's nothing wrong with zonal marking as proven by our excellent use of it under Clement.
It's not doing your job when zonal marking is what causes problems. |  | | |
| Zonal Marking on 07:26 - Nov 29 with 1368 views | TailGunner |
| Zonal Marking on 22:20 - Nov 28 by jasper_T |
If you haven't got the players capable of going man to man teams like West Brom demolish you. Zonal's got far greater margin for error. No wondering about who is picking up players, you have your zone and attack the ball.
All the top teams use zones. Managers aren't just trying to be trendy, statistically it works better, with less specialists in the side and less training ground time dedicated to it. |
Not a lot managers can do when Roberts switched off and Fer does nothing - 2nd goal | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 07:29 - Nov 29 with 1359 views | Whiterockin |
| Zonal Marking on 22:20 - Nov 28 by jasper_T |
If you haven't got the players capable of going man to man teams like West Brom demolish you. Zonal's got far greater margin for error. No wondering about who is picking up players, you have your zone and attack the ball.
All the top teams use zones. Managers aren't just trying to be trendy, statistically it works better, with less specialists in the side and less training ground time dedicated to it. |
" and less training ground time dedicated to it".
Maybe more training ground time should be dedicated to it. |  | | |
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| Zonal Marking on 08:19 - Nov 29 with 1307 views | builthjack |
| Zonal Marking on 07:26 - Nov 29 by TailGunner |
Not a lot managers can do when Roberts switched off and Fer does nothing - 2nd goal |
Zonal marking;
It was Roberts job to shield the player and Fers job to head it away. Roberts did his job. Fer ball watched and didn't move. That cost us the game. I haven't seen the replays but that's what it looked like from behind the goal. |  |
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| Zonal Marking on 11:11 - Nov 29 with 1214 views | Highjack |
Zonal is fine when you have a number of big strong players willing to take control and attack the ball. But when you have a team largely full of relative midgets you run the risk of getting seriously outmatched with tiny dudes trying to beat giant centre halves in the air.
I agree wholeheartedly with the putting someone on the post comment.
Oh and we should leave two fast players forward instead of bringing everyone back as that will force the opposition into leaving defenders back instead of flooding the box. [Post edited 29 Nov 2018 11:12]
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| Zonal Marking on 11:45 - Nov 29 with 1182 views | ploppy |
WBA's second goal was very similar to Millwall's. Deep corner beyond the far post, no challenge (or minimal challenge), and the header back either goes in or someone else puts it in. We're a soft touch in that area and teams have worked it out. | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 12:29 - Nov 29 with 1165 views | TailGunner |
| Zonal Marking on 08:19 - Nov 29 by builthjack |
Zonal marking;
It was Roberts job to shield the player and Fers job to head it away. Roberts did his job. Fer ball watched and didn't move. That cost us the game. I haven't seen the replays but that's what it looked like from behind the goal. |
Watch it back mate.
1st goal we set the zone as 2 banks of 4
Fer & Roberts both under the ball, in each others way - no attacking it at all.
2nd Goal - same set up.
Roberts does nothing to track Hegazi - a lazy arm out.
Fer bottles it completely.
Very poor individually by both. | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 20:08 - Nov 29 with 1060 views | builthjack |
| Zonal Marking on 12:29 - Nov 29 by TailGunner |
Watch it back mate.
1st goal we set the zone as 2 banks of 4
Fer & Roberts both under the ball, in each others way - no attacking it at all.
2nd Goal - same set up.
Roberts does nothing to track Hegazi - a lazy arm out.
Fer bottles it completely.
Very poor individually by both. |
I still haven't seen it, but the idea is that's one marks, one jumps. Connor being a shortass would mark, Fer being about 6" taller, jumps. He didn't. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Zonal Marking on 23:59 - Nov 29 with 997 views | Uxbridge |
Defensive systems are fine when people do their jobs. Sadly that didn't happen. I don't think we're built for full zonal though... When we've defended best, it's tended to be a mix of Man to man and Zonal. Man to man is just as prone to issues though, as inevitably somebody will get the run on someone. |  |
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| Zonal Marking on 00:26 - Nov 30 with 985 views | theloneranger |
| Zonal Marking on 23:59 - Nov 29 by Uxbridge |
Defensive systems are fine when people do their jobs. Sadly that didn't happen. I don't think we're built for full zonal though... When we've defended best, it's tended to be a mix of Man to man and Zonal. Man to man is just as prone to issues though, as inevitably somebody will get the run on someone. |
Newcastle's JAMAAL LASCELLES summed it up nicely, when he scored the winning header against us last season.
He said he loved playing against Zonal Marking ... "Because he could choose who was going to mark him on set pieces" [Post edited 30 Nov 2018 0:26]
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| Zonal Marking on 00:42 - Nov 30 with 973 views | jasper_T |
| Zonal Marking on 00:26 - Nov 30 by theloneranger |
Newcastle's JAMAAL LASCELLES summed it up nicely, when he scored the winning header against us last season.
He said he loved playing against Zonal Marking ... "Because he could choose who was going to mark him on set pieces" [Post edited 30 Nov 2018 0:26]
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If he's choosing to go against a weaker player then a proper zonal system will have him choosing to attack a less dangerous part of the box (harder delivery required, more difficult angle to score). The zones most goals are scored from are covered by our strongest players.
Chances are set piece specialists are going to enjoy playing against our teams of smaller, more technical footballers either way. | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 13:51 - Nov 30 with 907 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| Zonal Marking on 07:29 - Nov 29 by Whiterockin |
" and less training ground time dedicated to it".
Maybe more training ground time should be dedicated to it. |
Agreed one of the most important factors both for attacking and when defending, that's why Pullis and Allardyce generally don't get relegated and often win promotion!!! | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 13:52 - Nov 30 with 905 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| Zonal Marking on 00:26 - Nov 30 by theloneranger |
Newcastle's JAMAAL LASCELLES summed it up nicely, when he scored the winning header against us last season.
He said he loved playing against Zonal Marking ... "Because he could choose who was going to mark him on set pieces" [Post edited 30 Nov 2018 0:26]
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| Zonal Marking on 13:54 - Nov 30 with 904 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| Zonal Marking on 00:42 - Nov 30 by jasper_T |
If he's choosing to go against a weaker player then a proper zonal system will have him choosing to attack a less dangerous part of the box (harder delivery required, more difficult angle to score). The zones most goals are scored from are covered by our strongest players.
Chances are set piece specialists are going to enjoy playing against our teams of smaller, more technical footballers either way. |
He will choose the weakest defender of the good attacking zones, and attack defenders who he thinks he can intimidate or get the better of !!!
He has the choice not us !!! | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 14:45 - Nov 30 with 883 views | jasper_T |
| Zonal Marking on 13:54 - Nov 30 by AlfieMooresSon |
He will choose the weakest defender of the good attacking zones, and attack defenders who he thinks he can intimidate or get the better of !!!
He has the choice not us !!! |
And if we were man marking he and his teammates can coordinate their runs and areas to attack ahead of time, to pull our best defenders out of the most dangerous zones where they're needed. There's advantages to both systems (and why most teams use a mix of zones and man marking even if it's just a player on the back post and Bony on the edge of the six yard box to head stuff away). | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 18:03 - Nov 30 with 848 views | Dippy |
The best solution is to try and use both | |
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| Zonal Marking on 18:17 - Dec 3 with 698 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| Zonal Marking on 14:45 - Nov 30 by jasper_T |
And if we were man marking he and his teammates can coordinate their runs and areas to attack ahead of time, to pull our best defenders out of the most dangerous zones where they're needed. There's advantages to both systems (and why most teams use a mix of zones and man marking even if it's just a player on the back post and Bony on the edge of the six yard box to head stuff away). |
Fair point, I always prefer man to man marking but it's all about opinions !!! | | | |
| Zonal Marking on 18:26 - Dec 3 with 693 views | A_Fans_Dad |
When you have someone like Dan or Montero do you use Zonal marking?
Like hell you do you put 1, 2 or 3 men to either mark him or close off his path.
Zonal marking is so easily defeated when you have fast nimble players like
Defoe, Vardy, Son etc they use those very spaces it creates to get to the ball.
But the key is their team mates have to put the ball there for the to run on to. | | | |
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