| Who would you have replace Cooper? 09:27 - Feb 12 with 8575 views | CARDAN |
We are obviously skint so it’s far to say it’s better to look at maybe ex players with an affinity to the club who locally and remember the way we used to play, although it’s getting harder to remember that it seems so long ago. I would go for Leon and Rangel , both love the club I think they would be no worse than Cooper, at least even if we were shit they would no bore us to death with this fooookking awful football. |  | | |  |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 09:30 - Feb 12 with 4806 views | CARDAN |
Live locally I mean | | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 09:32 - Feb 12 with 4788 views | jasper_T |
Give Jon Grey and Matty Jones another interim promotion while we look at real applicants again.
Don't understand the pining for Rangel as a manager. Is it just because he's old? Bloke still wants to play. | | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:01 - Feb 12 with 4715 views | jackjackjackjack |
Chris Hughton till the end of the season, with a very appealing bonus if we go up. | |
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| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:07 - Feb 12 with 4696 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:01 - Feb 12 by jackjackjackjack |
Chris Hughton till the end of the season, with a very appealing bonus if we go up. |
The problem is that the longer they pointlessly persevere with Cooper the more unlikely this becomes.
I still think that a half decent manager would have had us a good 7 or 8 points better off and right in the mix. The division is crap. There’s no reason why this squad can’t be seriously challenging for the playoffs |  | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:10 - Feb 12 with 4683 views | pencoedjack |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:01 - Feb 12 by jackjackjackjack |
Chris Hughton till the end of the season, with a very appealing bonus if we go up. |
No chance we would pay what Houghton would demand or give him assurances on transfer kitty.
Any brave lower league manager who plays entertaining football for me.
I have to admit I have been holding back in criticising Cooper but with the players he has at his disposal the football over the last few weeks has been some of the worst for entertainment value in almost 40 years of watching the Swans.
Total lack of any ideas. [Post edited 12 Feb 2020 10:10]
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| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:11 - Feb 12 with 4675 views | Badlands |
Stefan Billborn (Hammerby - good EFL football with some style)
Ian Birchnall (Continuation of Potter and in a very difficult situation)
Paulo Sousa (7th with no forwards who could stay fit or effective and let down by a quisling captain)
Francesco Guidolin (sacked in appalling circumstances by Jenkins to suck up the new owners and was getting us performing)
Outsider - Osian Roberts. (By all accounts and outstanding coach but is he ready to be manager? |  |
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| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:12 - Feb 12 with 4669 views | Fireboy2 |
Cooper is going nowhere, we are safe from relegation and hes cheap.
A decent manager (who would have us in the automatic spots) would break the bank and the yanks would never speculate to accumulate.
We are going to have to accept that this novice is here to stay.
Bloody shame. |  | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:12 - Feb 12 with 4672 views | JesusJack |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:01 - Feb 12 by jackjackjackjack |
Chris Hughton till the end of the season, with a very appealing bonus if we go up. |
We can forget about any established managers with a half-decent reputation as they will command a hefty wage (Hefty by our budget, at least). We're only going to go for young, up-and-coming managers with something to prove.
We have to be realistic and accept that, until we're facing down the barrel of relegation, Cooper is here to stay. | |
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| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:14 - Feb 12 with 4657 views | WarwickHunt |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:11 - Feb 12 by Badlands |
Stefan Billborn (Hammerby - good EFL football with some style)
Ian Birchnall (Continuation of Potter and in a very difficult situation)
Paulo Sousa (7th with no forwards who could stay fit or effective and let down by a quisling captain)
Francesco Guidolin (sacked in appalling circumstances by Jenkins to suck up the new owners and was getting us performing)
Outsider - Osian Roberts. (By all accounts and outstanding coach but is he ready to be manager? |
Send Guido a bunch of flowers and a begging letter. Pronto. |  | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:15 - Feb 12 with 4651 views | NotLoyal |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:12 - Feb 12 by Fireboy2 |
Cooper is going nowhere, we are safe from relegation and hes cheap.
A decent manager (who would have us in the automatic spots) would break the bank and the yanks would never speculate to accumulate.
We are going to have to accept that this novice is here to stay.
Bloody shame. |
I often wonder what he is on financially. |  |
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| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:17 - Feb 12 with 4644 views | pencoedjack |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:12 - Feb 12 by JesusJack |
We can forget about any established managers with a half-decent reputation as they will command a hefty wage (Hefty by our budget, at least). We're only going to go for young, up-and-coming managers with something to prove.
We have to be realistic and accept that, until we're facing down the barrel of relegation, Cooper is here to stay. |
Got to admit for the 1st time in 20 years I am seriously thinking about not renewing my ST (That's quite hypocritical as I have openly slated those saying they are not doing it because of the Yanks)
Maybe its a knee jerk reaction after last night, but even spending a normal Tuesday evening home with the in laws seems more appealing than watching the non ambitious Cooper team.
Football is an entertainment business & last night was abysmal. | | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:19 - Feb 12 with 4638 views | Badlands |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:12 - Feb 12 by Fireboy2 |
Cooper is going nowhere, we are safe from relegation and hes cheap.
A decent manager (who would have us in the automatic spots) would break the bank and the yanks would never speculate to accumulate.
We are going to have to accept that this novice is here to stay.
Bloody shame. |
We won't go down this season but the writing is very much on the wall for next.
Get someone in now who can get to know the players who may be here next year and has time to plan ahead. | |
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| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:20 - Feb 12 with 4636 views | jackjackjackjack |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:10 - Feb 12 by pencoedjack |
No chance we would pay what Houghton would demand or give him assurances on transfer kitty.
Any brave lower league manager who plays entertaining football for me.
I have to admit I have been holding back in criticising Cooper but with the players he has at his disposal the football over the last few weeks has been some of the worst for entertainment value in almost 40 years of watching the Swans.
Total lack of any ideas. [Post edited 12 Feb 2020 10:10]
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Someone out-of-work, but proven, till the end of the season. Can pay them a decent amount on a short term contract. But I doubt that'll happen.
Then for next season, I agree, go for a league 1/2/lower leagues in Europe manger who plays the right way. To rebuild after this Cooper debacle. But who would choose them? Birch is a money man, so that leaves Curtis and Leon, who went for Cooper, and neither strike me as being immersed in the minutiae of lower league managerial ability. At least Jenkins got the vast majority of our appointments right. | |
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| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:20 - Feb 12 with 4630 views | NotLoyal |
Fck me, I would stick with cooper because the alternative will be Tate and Leon, please no that would seal our fate. | |
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| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:41 - Feb 12 with 4585 views | Jinxy |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 09:32 - Feb 12 by jasper_T |
Give Jon Grey and Matty Jones another interim promotion while we look at real applicants again.
Don't understand the pining for Rangel as a manager. Is it just because he's old? Bloke still wants to play. |
Apart from several risks (because he would be a novice), I think there are several things in Rangel's favour;
1. Familiar with "the Swansea Way" (fading away by the minute).
2. Played that style to a T himself.
3. Worked with, and hopefully learned from, some of our best (RM, BR, ML).
4. Possibly well connected re the above?
5. Respected by all and sundry. Club "legend"? Would get good support from Leon, Tate etc.?
6. Passionate.
7. Fiery sometimes. Strong and would stand up for himself/players? Doubt he'd take any messing from anyone.
8. Local - he's probably dismayed to see what we are currently.
9. Reasonably priced - willing to speculate and prove himself?
You could probably add as many negatives/risks, but in our predicament (low budget and playing style getting grimmer by the minute) for me this would be a good solution. |  | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:43 - Feb 12 with 4579 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:10 - Feb 12 by pencoedjack |
No chance we would pay what Houghton would demand or give him assurances on transfer kitty.
Any brave lower league manager who plays entertaining football for me.
I have to admit I have been holding back in criticising Cooper but with the players he has at his disposal the football over the last few weeks has been some of the worst for entertainment value in almost 40 years of watching the Swans.
Total lack of any ideas. [Post edited 12 Feb 2020 10:10]
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I've been waiting for your opinion Penc, you're normally spot on in fairness. Cooper should go, but realistically it won't be happening. |  | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:46 - Feb 12 with 4565 views | cmajack |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:41 - Feb 12 by Jinxy |
Apart from several risks (because he would be a novice), I think there are several things in Rangel's favour;
1. Familiar with "the Swansea Way" (fading away by the minute).
2. Played that style to a T himself.
3. Worked with, and hopefully learned from, some of our best (RM, BR, ML).
4. Possibly well connected re the above?
5. Respected by all and sundry. Club "legend"? Would get good support from Leon, Tate etc.?
6. Passionate.
7. Fiery sometimes. Strong and would stand up for himself/players? Doubt he'd take any messing from anyone.
8. Local - he's probably dismayed to see what we are currently.
9. Reasonably priced - willing to speculate and prove himself?
You could probably add as many negatives/risks, but in our predicament (low budget and playing style getting grimmer by the minute) for me this would be a good solution. |
This entirely. Like you said there are as many risks, but there were with Martinez and Rodgers and that didn't turn out too bad. | | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:58 - Feb 12 with 4525 views | pencoedjack |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:43 - Feb 12 by 34dfgdf54 |
I've been waiting for your opinion Penc, you're normally spot on in fairness. Cooper should go, but realistically it won't be happening. |
As mentioned earlier I have been trying to give Cooper the benefit of the doubt but I think its now obvious he's not up to the task (I even wonder if he's lost the dressing room)
It will be interesting to see how ST sales are going, at the end of the day Birch is obviously pretty switched on & if crowds / income dwindle do to dross being served up its only going to end one way.
I know I will renew but its getting less appealing to drive to Swansea to watch crap football (its easy for the Jacks who live around the corner as we know)
On a side note we have some away's coming up towards the end of the season if you Risca lot fancy it. | | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 11:10 - Feb 12 with 4486 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:01 - Feb 12 by jackjackjackjack |
Chris Hughton till the end of the season, with a very appealing bonus if we go up. |
Proper Manager! | | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 11:14 - Feb 12 with 4469 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:17 - Feb 12 by pencoedjack |
Got to admit for the 1st time in 20 years I am seriously thinking about not renewing my ST (That's quite hypocritical as I have openly slated those saying they are not doing it because of the Yanks)
Maybe its a knee jerk reaction after last night, but even spending a normal Tuesday evening home with the in laws seems more appealing than watching the non ambitious Cooper team.
Football is an entertainment business & last night was abysmal. |
I feel your pain, nothing worse than paying for something and then realising you're not even enjoying it and in fact, it's frustrating you! | | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 11:17 - Feb 12 with 4456 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:58 - Feb 12 by pencoedjack |
As mentioned earlier I have been trying to give Cooper the benefit of the doubt but I think its now obvious he's not up to the task (I even wonder if he's lost the dressing room)
It will be interesting to see how ST sales are going, at the end of the day Birch is obviously pretty switched on & if crowds / income dwindle do to dross being served up its only going to end one way.
I know I will renew but its getting less appealing to drive to Swansea to watch crap football (its easy for the Jacks who live around the corner as we know)
On a side note we have some away's coming up towards the end of the season if you Risca lot fancy it. |
I've just had a new baby girl arrive so haven't got to near as many games as I would have liked, glad about that aswell to be honest with yesterday.
Next one I'll be getting too looks like Blackburn at the end of the month! | | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 11:18 - Feb 12 with 4455 views | union_jack |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 10:41 - Feb 12 by Jinxy |
Apart from several risks (because he would be a novice), I think there are several things in Rangel's favour;
1. Familiar with "the Swansea Way" (fading away by the minute).
2. Played that style to a T himself.
3. Worked with, and hopefully learned from, some of our best (RM, BR, ML).
4. Possibly well connected re the above?
5. Respected by all and sundry. Club "legend"? Would get good support from Leon, Tate etc.?
6. Passionate.
7. Fiery sometimes. Strong and would stand up for himself/players? Doubt he'd take any messing from anyone.
8. Local - he's probably dismayed to see what we are currently.
9. Reasonably priced - willing to speculate and prove himself?
You could probably add as many negatives/risks, but in our predicament (low budget and playing style getting grimmer by the minute) for me this would be a good solution. |
I’m wondering whether he wouldn’t want it in the same way (thank God) Chris Coleman didnt. He’s more or less a local lad now so would he put that on the line a la Monk. |  |
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| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 11:18 - Feb 12 with 4454 views | swan65split |
The statue of Ivor outside the Stadium......... |  | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 11:21 - Feb 12 with 4447 views | pencoedjack |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 11:17 - Feb 12 by 34dfgdf54 |
I've just had a new baby girl arrive so haven't got to near as many games as I would have liked, glad about that aswell to be honest with yesterday.
Next one I'll be getting too looks like Blackburn at the end of the month! |
Congratulations mate | | | |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 11:22 - Feb 12 with 4438 views | pencoedjack |
| Who would you have replace Cooper? on 11:14 - Feb 12 by AlfieMooresSon |
I feel your pain, nothing worse than paying for something and then realising you're not even enjoying it and in fact, it's frustrating you! |
Its like a drug you cant kick. | | | |
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