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Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 275809 viewsSgorioFruit

Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy.

My methods are not favoured by some but by god i speak the truth.
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Corona Virus on 00:56 - Mar 15 with 1118 viewslegoman

Corona Virus on 23:48 - Mar 14 by ladyjack

China the original epicenter of the Corona virus is now said by many commentators to be containing the virus, we should learn from their methods.


China has not beaten this thing. It may have reduced infections through strict isolation but the virus is still a major threat to the Chinese people. There are only 2 ways a population will defeat the virus; either through immunity from infection or through vaccination.

You are almost certainly a troll but I hope this is a simple enough concept for you to grasp.

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Corona Virus on 01:55 - Mar 15 with 1063 viewsExiledJack

I have to agree with LadyJack, containment is the only approach that makes sense.

Immunity is a theory at this stage according to the WHO, and we may never have a vaccine.

It would be much harder to get results from containment now than it would have been a few months ago, when it was time to act. Even now, it will save lives. Alas the will is not there.

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Corona Virus on 02:48 - Mar 15 with 1036 viewslegoman

Corona Virus on 01:55 - Mar 15 by ExiledJack

I have to agree with LadyJack, containment is the only approach that makes sense.

Immunity is a theory at this stage according to the WHO, and we may never have a vaccine.

It would be much harder to get results from containment now than it would have been a few months ago, when it was time to act. Even now, it will save lives. Alas the will is not there.


Immunity is not a theory. It's a fact and it can only be achieved one of two ways. Either someone gets infected naturally and recovers (99% of people will experience this for Covid 19) or through a man made vaccine which will probably take us 12 months to deliver.

Think it through. You can't keep 3bn people locked up and hope the virus naffs off somewhere and dies.

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Corona Virus on 07:15 - Mar 15 with 958 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 00:56 - Mar 15 by legoman

China has not beaten this thing. It may have reduced infections through strict isolation but the virus is still a major threat to the Chinese people. There are only 2 ways a population will defeat the virus; either through immunity from infection or through vaccination.

You are almost certainly a troll but I hope this is a simple enough concept for you to grasp.


I don't think China has beaten Coronavirus either it might well comeback but they have contained it for now according to many commentators.
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Corona Virus on 07:17 - Mar 15 with 950 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 00:07 - Mar 15 by Garyjack

The information they are receiving is. China is the worlds factory, they can't afford lock down. But you believe them and call our Government liars and want to wipe out the elderly! Crack on you nutter!


They did lockdown though, we haven't and they did perhaps it's us that can't afford lockdown.
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Corona Virus on 07:33 - Mar 15 with 929 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 00:16 - Mar 15 by Garyjack

Sorry for your loss of a friend mate, but trust me, there's no agenda. If there were they'd have killed off people with serious illnesses by their thousands including my wife who costs the NHS thousands of pounds. They wouldn't need a virus from China as a reason.


The NHS do make choices as regards whether they can afford expensive treatment for a patient/patients or not, basically whether some people live or die, there is even a phenomenon know as the 'post code lottery' where you will get treated if you live in a certain part of the country but not another.
If things go as they predict then we might not (many say will not) have enough respirators and intensive care beds for everybody that needs them and then they will be making decisions who gets oxygen and who doesn't, Italy who is better off than us for such facilities I heard the other day is on the verge of making such decisions and chit chatting when I was out last night I was told they already are, the best video out there on the net about the crisis (the one where the interviewer says everybody should see this to the guy she had just interviewed at the end of the clip) of some American expert saying about the virus and how the Chinese have been successful so far says in the video that we (America/West) will be making choices he dies, she lives etc
Don't kid yourself that there is unlimited money and resources for this pandemic, yes people will do what they can but only with the hand they have been dealt.
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Corona Virus on 08:00 - Mar 15 with 900 viewsCooperman

Read this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

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Corona Virus on 08:11 - Mar 15 with 869 viewsCatullus

Corona Virus on 22:59 - Mar 14 by Jack123

Good post, I was thinking earlier, surely it would have been better once the outbreak happened in wuhan, to stop all incoming transport, nobody enters. I think I'm most probably talking a few months before your timeline, but I think that's what should have been done, no doubt they will implement something like that soon, but when you think of it, if the uk had stopped all entries when it was first reported, there would be no need for what we are going through now.


We'll never know but if we asume (for arguments sake) stopping all entries was the right decision it didn't happen, probably because of the effect on the economy.

In the beginning small steps were taken, was it purely in the hope of not trashing the economy? Did countries put money before people? I'll say yes.

We should have shut down travel as soon as the quick spread becam obvious, we should have quarantined areas where cases were reported and not relied on people to self regulate because people can't be trusted. We are stupid and selfish. That leaves us to follow the rules as laid down and hope for the best but even these light touch rules are being ignored, we've seen evidence of that on here.

Air travel from areas badly affected was allowed, people were allowed to self regulate and are people really surprised at the outcome?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Corona Virus on 08:15 - Mar 15 with 859 viewsGwyn737

Corona Virus on 08:00 - Mar 15 by Cooperman

Read this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/


Thank you. Those visuals are really helpful.

The further question it asks is how the desired level of social distancing is best achieved. I’m thinking on a personal level really as I work in a school. Is it best to shut schools at all? If it is, when?

My best guess (and it is a guess based on how things were shaping up last week) is it may be taken out of our hands based on whether we have enough staff to run. I think we may see individual school closures before any national shut down.
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Corona Virus on 08:17 - Mar 15 with 856 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 08:11 - Mar 15 by Catullus

We'll never know but if we asume (for arguments sake) stopping all entries was the right decision it didn't happen, probably because of the effect on the economy.

In the beginning small steps were taken, was it purely in the hope of not trashing the economy? Did countries put money before people? I'll say yes.

We should have shut down travel as soon as the quick spread becam obvious, we should have quarantined areas where cases were reported and not relied on people to self regulate because people can't be trusted. We are stupid and selfish. That leaves us to follow the rules as laid down and hope for the best but even these light touch rules are being ignored, we've seen evidence of that on here.

Air travel from areas badly affected was allowed, people were allowed to self regulate and are people really surprised at the outcome?


English led UK Tory Government putting money before the good of the people is it Catullus ?
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Corona Virus on 08:23 - Mar 15 with 832 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 08:15 - Mar 15 by Gwyn737

Thank you. Those visuals are really helpful.

The further question it asks is how the desired level of social distancing is best achieved. I’m thinking on a personal level really as I work in a school. Is it best to shut schools at all? If it is, when?

My best guess (and it is a guess based on how things were shaping up last week) is it may be taken out of our hands based on whether we have enough staff to run. I think we may see individual school closures before any national shut down.


According to one expert that Lisa extol the virtues of on here he says school children will be used to infect the general population at a time of their choosing to build up herd immunity depending on the hospital capacity at the appropriate time.
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Corona Virus on 08:33 - Mar 15 with 814 viewsladyjack

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51893736

More ventilators hey, oh dear.
Isolating families is it Boris that is not the way the Chinese did it.
I wonder if the Government now recognise we are under resourced, the Government seem to have no plan I can see them u-turning to a degree on the herd immunity thing, as some schools are closing of their own accord and it's the same with sports events and the like, how much time have we now lost following a plan that seems to be failing already.
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Corona Virus on 08:38 - Mar 15 with 792 viewsJinxy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51895246

Perhaps US citizens will now understand what we've all been going through for years, trying to get into the US, i.e. guilty until proven innocent.
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Corona Virus on 08:40 - Mar 15 with 784 viewsCountyJim

They are saying now all private hospitals to be taken over by NHS in short term also hotels to be taken over

Bars restaurants to be closed

All over 70s to self isolate for up to four months
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Corona Virus on 08:43 - Mar 15 with 776 viewsItchySphincter

Corona Virus on 07:33 - Mar 15 by ladyjack

The NHS do make choices as regards whether they can afford expensive treatment for a patient/patients or not, basically whether some people live or die, there is even a phenomenon know as the 'post code lottery' where you will get treated if you live in a certain part of the country but not another.
If things go as they predict then we might not (many say will not) have enough respirators and intensive care beds for everybody that needs them and then they will be making decisions who gets oxygen and who doesn't, Italy who is better off than us for such facilities I heard the other day is on the verge of making such decisions and chit chatting when I was out last night I was told they already are, the best video out there on the net about the crisis (the one where the interviewer says everybody should see this to the guy she had just interviewed at the end of the clip) of some American expert saying about the virus and how the Chinese have been successful so far says in the video that we (America/West) will be making choices he dies, she lives etc
Don't kid yourself that there is unlimited money and resources for this pandemic, yes people will do what they can but only with the hand they have been dealt.
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You went out chit chatting last night?! WTF?!

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Corona Virus on 08:43 - Mar 15 with 768 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 08:40 - Mar 15 by CountyJim

They are saying now all private hospitals to be taken over by NHS in short term also hotels to be taken over

Bars restaurants to be closed

All over 70s to self isolate for up to four months


We have lost days even weeks with Boris not preparing the country for what they are afraid is about to come.
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Corona Virus on 08:46 - Mar 15 with 753 viewsThebus

Corona Virus on 23:06 - Mar 14 by ItchySphincter

FFS stop trolling. Get over the fact that in a global society it can’t be contained and ignored. It’s out there and we either have to develop immunity or cure. Running scared is not an option.


Well said. Mikel Arteta’s wife was speaking on the radio this morning and said her husband has recovered and only had very mild symptoms and would have under normal circumstances taken a paracetamol and carried on with his life, work etc.

I’m not an expert but surely common sense says protect the elderly & vulnerable and the rest take precautions such as washing your hands, stay away from the elderly & vulnerable if possible.

Personally I think the prime minister is doing a good job in regards to Coronavirus and the conspiracy theory that this is about killing people off is so off the wall, the people who think it should be locked up in a mental hospital.
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Corona Virus on 08:48 - Mar 15 with 744 viewsexiledclaseboy

Corona Virus on 08:46 - Mar 15 by Thebus

Well said. Mikel Arteta’s wife was speaking on the radio this morning and said her husband has recovered and only had very mild symptoms and would have under normal circumstances taken a paracetamol and carried on with his life, work etc.

I’m not an expert but surely common sense says protect the elderly & vulnerable and the rest take precautions such as washing your hands, stay away from the elderly & vulnerable if possible.

Personally I think the prime minister is doing a good job in regards to Coronavirus and the conspiracy theory that this is about killing people off is so off the wall, the people who think it should be locked up in a mental hospital.


As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with this. Apart from the locking people up bit.

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Corona Virus on 08:51 - Mar 15 with 732 viewsladyjack

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/coronavirus-school-c

Questions been asked about Boris handling of the crisis.
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Corona Virus on 08:52 - Mar 15 with 727 viewsCatullus

Corona Virus on 08:17 - Mar 15 by ladyjack

English led UK Tory Government putting money before the good of the people is it Catullus ?


It wouldn't matter who was in Government they would have tried to protect the economy. Bojo is an easy target but I don't see the Senedd closing down schools, saying we need a lockdown. Drakeford is following Bojo's lead and I would suggest it's so he has someone else to blame when the death toll rises.

Drakeford could lead but I don't think he's up to it and to be honest, there are decisions to be taken that I wouldn't want to have to decide on. Whatever we do now, a lot of people will die.

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Corona Virus on 08:55 - Mar 15 with 707 viewsThebus

Corona Virus on 08:48 - Mar 15 by exiledclaseboy

As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with this. Apart from the locking people up bit.


The likes of Trampie and Kilkenny would like to see lots of people die so they can blame the government.

Their hatred of the government and the U.K. means the ends justify the means.
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Corona Virus on 09:00 - Mar 15 with 681 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 08:55 - Mar 15 by Thebus

The likes of Trampie and Kilkenny would like to see lots of people die so they can blame the government.

Their hatred of the government and the U.K. means the ends justify the means.


What a strange thing to think dgt, I would not want anybody to die and I'm sure Kilkenny would be the same.
If we taxed people more and had a socialist society then we would have better facilities and resources to deal with this crisis.
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Corona Virus on 09:02 - Mar 15 with 672 viewsCooperman

Corona Virus on 09:00 - Mar 15 by ladyjack

What a strange thing to think dgt, I would not want anybody to die and I'm sure Kilkenny would be the same.
If we taxed people more and had a socialist society then we would have better facilities and resources to deal with this crisis.


Well we haven’t and we are where we are. When you say what you say under the current circumstances you come across as 1. Trolling, 2. A bit dim.

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Corona Virus on 09:02 - Mar 15 with 668 viewsThebus

Corona Virus on 09:00 - Mar 15 by ladyjack

What a strange thing to think dgt, I would not want anybody to die and I'm sure Kilkenny would be the same.
If we taxed people more and had a socialist society then we would have better facilities and resources to deal with this crisis.


Bullshite. You are loving it. Sad pathetic excuse for a human.
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Corona Virus on 09:02 - Mar 15 with 669 viewsItchySphincter

Corona Virus on 08:48 - Mar 15 by exiledclaseboy

As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with this. Apart from the locking people up bit.


I’m of similar thoughts.

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