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It's worrying the reports of some younger fit working age adults said to be dying of Covid19, initially after the outbreak we seemed to have weeks of it's nearly always old people or people with underlying health conditions but more and more there seems to be reports of young apparently healthy people dying from Coronavirus and that is a very very worrying state of affairs.
Just prior to the lock down there seemed to be a large proportion of the younger generation out and carrying on as normal. Probably thinking, as most did, this virus was fatal for the older generation with underlying health issues. The increase of younger deaths cold be a direct result of this.
WE ARE LOCKED DOWN FOR A REASON. PLEASE EVERYONE REMEMBER THIS AND KEEP TO IT.
Very worrying and goes to show how stupid British media is andd how stupid many of our population are in believing everything they print.
All we heard 2 -3 weeks ago was that it would only attack the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions.
Our politicians are woeful and read off scripts. They don't speak from the heart, aren't open and lack any human compassion. Drakeford, Johnson, Hancock, Whitty et al.......they could be reading financial reports when they address the nation.
Compare them to Andrew Cuomo, plus look around the world and see how different "leaders" speak and address the nation's population and media.
Hancock is very defensive and I take that as showing signs he is way, way out his depth. Johnson in isolation? Probably for the best, he's got nothing to say.
If the old and weak get taken by a nasty disease like a virus with no cure then that is a big problem for society even if it is to a degree the natural order of things with hospitals being full, undertaker's unable to cope, work days lost for funerals etc but if young adults start dying in their droves then society could break down as they are the doctors, teachers, factory workers etc, who is going to replace them who is going to look after their children. It's a different ball game for our species when our fittest, strongest and most productive people in our society get taken.
When this type of thing starts happening things are on a different level of seriousness to what was perhaps initially portrayed to the public.
This is tragic as it leaves behind 6 kids, 2 single parent dads and at the same time deprives the NHS of 2 young nurses. Damn the NHS management for not supplying top of the line PPE for their front line workers.
This is tragic as it leaves behind 6 kids, 2 single parent dads and at the same time deprives the NHS of 2 young nurses. Damn the NHS management for not supplying top of the line PPE for their front line workers.
Very worrying and goes to show how stupid British media is andd how stupid many of our population are in believing everything they print.
All we heard 2 -3 weeks ago was that it would only attack the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions.
Our politicians are woeful and read off scripts. They don't speak from the heart, aren't open and lack any human compassion. Drakeford, Johnson, Hancock, Whitty et al.......they could be reading financial reports when they address the nation.
Compare them to Andrew Cuomo, plus look around the world and see how different "leaders" speak and address the nation's population and media.
Hancock is very defensive and I take that as showing signs he is way, way out his depth. Johnson in isolation? Probably for the best, he's got nothing to say.
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Boris being in isolation means he doesn’t have to step up to the plate and answer questions.
Apparently Hancock was already backtracking on the 100,000 tests a day claim less than 48 hours after making them.
It's correct that hospitals are seeing younger and younger patients
Excellent, stark and sobering interview with Dr. David Hepburn at Royal Gwent Hospital in Newport caring for Coronavirus patients from the admirable @adavies4 of Channel 4 News. Anyone not strictly observing social distancing should be made to watch this. https://t.co/7xsVWXo5Lm
I read an article about just this about 10 days ago, saying its to do with viral loading. The severity of the illness is due in most cases, maybe not all, to the actual amount of virus someone takes in at the time they become infected and that would be related to the number of already infected people they picked it up from at that time. Once in your system, the virus replicates and that triggers the immune system. If the initial dose is small and the replication is slow, the immune system can fight it but if the initial dosage is large, the replication is happening much faster and the immune system is overwhelmed resulting in a more serious illness. This sounds completely logical to me and if younger people were continuing to congregate in larger numbers thinking they were at a lower risk at a time when the elderly had already been told to isolate, it's quite feasible that some of them had a high initial dosage infection resulting in serious illness and in some cases death.
I read an article about just this about 10 days ago, saying its to do with viral loading. The severity of the illness is due in most cases, maybe not all, to the actual amount of virus someone takes in at the time they become infected and that would be related to the number of already infected people they picked it up from at that time. Once in your system, the virus replicates and that triggers the immune system. If the initial dose is small and the replication is slow, the immune system can fight it but if the initial dosage is large, the replication is happening much faster and the immune system is overwhelmed resulting in a more serious illness. This sounds completely logical to me and if younger people were continuing to congregate in larger numbers thinking they were at a lower risk at a time when the elderly had already been told to isolate, it's quite feasible that some of them had a high initial dosage infection resulting in serious illness and in some cases death.
I saw a doctor on tv recently (in the last week) talking about viral loading, saying pretty much what you just posted. He was saying this is why medics are dying, because their system is overloaded too quickly for it to cope.
Yup, and it's why social distancing works. If anyone does everything they can to stay at home and observe the 2 metre rule when they do have to go out but is still unlucky enough to become infected, they may have only picked up a low dosage and their chances that they will get a mild illness and make a full recovery will be so much higher and they won't add to the strain on the NHS resources to any great extent.
Yup, and it's why social distancing works. If anyone does everything they can to stay at home and observe the 2 metre rule when they do have to go out but is still unlucky enough to become infected, they may have only picked up a low dosage and their chances that they will get a mild illness and make a full recovery will be so much higher and they won't add to the strain on the NHS resources to any great extent.
It's Darwinian then, many of the old and already sick plus the terminally stupid are doomed!
I have argued with my son (because 11 year olds don't listen) several times that he has to pay attention, when we have taken our exercise it;s not good enough to say someone walked towards him/us, if someone else is being stupid you cant be stubborn or say they should stay away, take responsibility and get yourself out of the way. Most people are being good but there are always idiots.
It's Darwinian then, many of the old and already sick plus the terminally stupid are doomed!
I have argued with my son (because 11 year olds don't listen) several times that he has to pay attention, when we have taken our exercise it;s not good enough to say someone walked towards him/us, if someone else is being stupid you cant be stubborn or say they should stay away, take responsibility and get yourself out of the way. Most people are being good but there are always idiots.
There are so many people out there with the commons sense of a gnat!
Take those recent Stereophonic concerts for example. The lunacy of not only refusing to cancel those recent concerts, but to actually attend them beggars belief. I never had much time for that glorified pub rock band. I've got even less now! FFS look at all those people crammed tightly together.
There are so many people out there with the commons sense of a gnat!
Take those recent Stereophonic concerts for example. The lunacy of not only refusing to cancel those recent concerts, but to actually attend them beggars belief. I never had much time for that glorified pub rock band. I've got even less now! FFS look at all those people crammed tightly together.