| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. 10:56 - Apr 4 with 3188 views | ladyjack |
It will be difficult for lots of workplaces to adhere to this rule but the law is the law. |  | | |  |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 10:59 - Apr 4 with 1224 views | dickythorpe |
Who's going to enforce it?
What are the punishments?
Some workplaces are down to skeleton staff due to sickness and furlough measures.
What boss is going to sack or suspend a member of staff at this time?
Many businesses that are open to the public have no PPE for their staff.....what is the law for what front line workers should be wearing?
Knee jerk reaction. [Post edited 4 Apr 2020 11:01]
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:01 - Apr 4 with 1210 views | Highjack |
What would we do without our Lord and dear leader Mr Mark Drakeford? |  |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:04 - Apr 4 with 1200 views | 3swan |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 10:59 - Apr 4 by dickythorpe |
Who's going to enforce it?
What are the punishments?
Some workplaces are down to skeleton staff due to sickness and furlough measures.
What boss is going to sack or suspend a member of staff at this time?
Many businesses that are open to the public have no PPE for their staff.....what is the law for what front line workers should be wearing?
Knee jerk reaction. [Post edited 4 Apr 2020 11:01]
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I'm sure with the Health & Safety regulations in place for the workplace there is something already in place. |  | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:06 - Apr 4 with 1189 views | Joe_bradshaw |
“All reasonable actions” at a time like this is a massive loophole and they know it.
Gesture politics. |  |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:07 - Apr 4 with 1188 views | dickythorpe |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:04 - Apr 4 by 3swan |
I'm sure with the Health & Safety regulations in place for the workplace there is something already in place. |
What H&S rules are in place for what PPE to wear when coronavirus strikes?
I'll help you out here..... there's NONE!!!!
JUST LIKE THERE'S NO PPE OR EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST IT WILL HELP!!! | | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:09 - Apr 4 with 1178 views | 3swan |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:07 - Apr 4 by dickythorpe |
What H&S rules are in place for what PPE to wear when coronavirus strikes?
I'll help you out here..... there's NONE!!!!
JUST LIKE THERE'S NO PPE OR EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST IT WILL HELP!!! |
I meant in general. An employer has to keep his employees safe even before this virus outbreak. | | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:11 - Apr 4 with 1169 views | raynor94 |
I had to check the calendar then! |  |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:12 - Apr 4 with 1165 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 10:59 - Apr 4 by dickythorpe |
Who's going to enforce it?
What are the punishments?
Some workplaces are down to skeleton staff due to sickness and furlough measures.
What boss is going to sack or suspend a member of staff at this time?
Many businesses that are open to the public have no PPE for their staff.....what is the law for what front line workers should be wearing?
Knee jerk reaction. [Post edited 4 Apr 2020 11:01]
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Every hospital in Wales would close if this had to be strictly adhered to.
Why don’t the politicians concentrate on equipment and PPE for the Welsh NHS instead of coming out with this sort of nonsense? | |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:16 - Apr 4 with 1157 views | dickythorpe |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:09 - Apr 4 by 3swan |
I meant in general. An employer has to keep his employees safe even before this virus outbreak. |
You can't be "general" in times like these.
It's rushed thinking, it hasn't taken into consideration many factors like size of the business, the fact that people work in pairs or teams etc etc
I'm not spoiling for an argument by the way.
I respect all posts as it's a very trying time.
Much love to all. | | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:22 - Apr 4 with 1145 views | 3swan |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:16 - Apr 4 by dickythorpe |
You can't be "general" in times like these.
It's rushed thinking, it hasn't taken into consideration many factors like size of the business, the fact that people work in pairs or teams etc etc
I'm not spoiling for an argument by the way.
I respect all posts as it's a very trying time.
Much love to all. |
No problem all opinions are welcome. I'm close to 100% current regulations will state risk assessment against government guidance. There are standards already issued to cover eventualities. | | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:23 - Apr 4 with 1145 views | Neath_Jack |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:07 - Apr 4 by dickythorpe |
What H&S rules are in place for what PPE to wear when coronavirus strikes?
I'll help you out here..... there's NONE!!!!
JUST LIKE THERE'S NO PPE OR EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST IT WILL HELP!!! |
That's an easy one mate, should they want to, the HSE could use section 2.1 of the HASAWA. There will be several other pieces of legislation that they could use, such as Regulation 3.1.a of The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999, but the former is an over arching, catch all. |  |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:29 - Apr 4 with 1123 views | dickythorpe |
But mate, if I go to work on Monday and tell my boss where's my mask, where's my gloves and eye protection?
Guess what? | | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:30 - Apr 4 with 1120 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:23 - Apr 4 by Neath_Jack |
That's an easy one mate, should they want to, the HSE could use section 2.1 of the HASAWA. There will be several other pieces of legislation that they could use, such as Regulation 3.1.a of The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999, but the former is an over arching, catch all. |
Very true.
Is the HSE going to close companies down when only vital ones are actually operating at a time like this though? Provided companies and service providers are doing what they reasonably can to protect workers and maintain their service levels the HSE will be happy for them to continue.
Drakeford is making a noise about nothing. | |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:31 - Apr 4 with 1111 views | Highjack |
Just look at his lovely face. Who would want to be more than two metres away from this lovely face?
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:33 - Apr 4 with 1108 views | ladyjack |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 10:59 - Apr 4 by dickythorpe |
Who's going to enforce it?
What are the punishments?
Some workplaces are down to skeleton staff due to sickness and furlough measures.
What boss is going to sack or suspend a member of staff at this time?
Many businesses that are open to the public have no PPE for their staff.....what is the law for what front line workers should be wearing?
Knee jerk reaction. [Post edited 4 Apr 2020 11:01]
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My first thoughts are not about workers being disciplined by the bosses but the bosses and their companies not complying.
Some machines in factories might need two or more to operate and they would not be 2 metres apart, more than one worker in a car or van on company business would be illegal i guess ?, lots of workers work in gangs like those doing maintenance on the roads and railways.
Two pilots in a cockpit, operating theatre staff there seems to be lots of them around the surgeon when doing the op on a patient. [Post edited 4 Apr 2020 11:39]
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:35 - Apr 4 with 1097 views | Neath_Jack |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:30 - Apr 4 by Joe_bradshaw |
Very true.
Is the HSE going to close companies down when only vital ones are actually operating at a time like this though? Provided companies and service providers are doing what they reasonably can to protect workers and maintain their service levels the HSE will be happy for them to continue.
Drakeford is making a noise about nothing. |
I agree, it wouldn't be in the "public interest" for them to go after companies. But the tools are there should they want to.
I also expect to see personal injury claims flying in from people who have contracted it (prove it was at work will be difficult) whilst at work. There are some extremely bad working practices going on out there at the moment.
Don't agree that he is making a noise about nothing though, far from it. The construction industry and manufacturing industry has been hung out to dry. There is no need for the majority of those still operating, to be still operating. | |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:37 - Apr 4 with 1088 views | Neath_Jack |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:29 - Apr 4 by dickythorpe |
But mate, if I go to work on Monday and tell my boss where's my mask, where's my gloves and eye protection?
Guess what? |
I'll guess you are going to say you would get the sack?
But that doesn't mean that health and safety regulations don't apply.
The same behaviour goes on with thousands of cowboy outfits over safe working, never mind during this particular pandemic. | |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:38 - Apr 4 with 1086 views | majorraglan |
It’s good that they are trying to stop companies flouting the lockdown legislation, but common sense needs to be applied. Good points being made re pilots, nurses, etc, who will enforce this because the cops have enough to do already. | | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:39 - Apr 4 with 1078 views | dickythorpe |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:37 - Apr 4 by Neath_Jack |
I'll guess you are going to say you would get the sack?
But that doesn't mean that health and safety regulations don't apply.
The same behaviour goes on with thousands of cowboy outfits over safe working, never mind during this particular pandemic. |
No, first my boss would say "fúck all for you"
If I protest and go home I'll get a disciplinary. | | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:51 - Apr 4 with 1061 views | Whiterockin |
Before the lock down there were non essential businesses with workers working closer than 2 meters. A friend of mine is furlonged at the moment and his company will try to get him back to work as soon as the lock down is over, (they have said so) even if the 2 meter rule is in place. There is no way this company can operate with the 2 meter rule in place. If he was to refuse to return and follow government guidelines he would be sacked. If this law comes in and there is a hotline to report employers to have them prevented from reopening until it is safe to do so, it would be a godsend for some. |  | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:53 - Apr 4 with 1059 views | dickythorpe |
Many would close if this is to be enforced by whatever authority is given the job to do so.
Civil unrest could follow. | | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:58 - Apr 4 with 1040 views | Neath_Jack |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:39 - Apr 4 by dickythorpe |
No, first my boss would say "fúck all for you"
If I protest and go home I'll get a disciplinary. |
Easy for me to say, but I wouldn't want to work in a place like that, I'd be gone if that was their attitude. But trust me, I know those employers exist out there, in their spades too. | |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 12:03 - Apr 4 with 1024 views | Neath_Jack |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:53 - Apr 4 by dickythorpe |
Many would close if this is to be enforced by whatever authority is given the job to do so.
Civil unrest could follow. |
Better they temporarily close than put people in danger of potentially losing their lives mate. | |
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| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 12:07 - Apr 4 with 1010 views | controversial_jack |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 11:58 - Apr 4 by Neath_Jack |
Easy for me to say, but I wouldn't want to work in a place like that, I'd be gone if that was their attitude. But trust me, I know those employers exist out there, in their spades too. |
Most employers are the same, they don't care until everyone goes off sick and hits production | | | |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 12:10 - Apr 4 with 1005 views | Neath_Jack |
| Welsh Government to bring into law 2 metre rule in the work place. on 12:07 - Apr 4 by controversial_jack |
Most employers are the same, they don't care until everyone goes off sick and hits production |
There are many out there like that unfortunately. | |
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