| London Mayor Sadiq Khan 20:23 - Jun 10 with 26113 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
London mayor Sadiq Khan promised today that he will begin the process of pulling down ‘inappropriate’ statues around London — after Bristolians dumped the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in the river at the weekend.
To investigate London’s landmarks, Khan has created a ‘Commission for Diversity in the Public Realm’ which will review statues and street names in the capital to make sure they reflect the diversity of its people. Khan said he expected the commission to find that it’s ‘not appropriate to be memorialising, or to be celebrating’ certain figures, especially those with a racist past and links to the slave trade.
In 2018, he proudly unveiled a statue of the suffragist Millicent Fawcett — the first-ever statue in Parliament Square of a woman. At the time, Khan declared that ‘from the very first week of my Mayoralty, I supported Caroline Criado Perez’s campaign to put up a statue of a woman in Parliament Square, and I’m so proud that the day of its unveiling is now upon us.’
But while Fawcett is mostly celebrated today for the campaign for women’s suffrage, less well-known is her ardent support of the British Empire. Fawcett was such a fan of Empire, that in 1901 she was commissioned by the government to lead an investigation into British concentration camps in South Africa during the second Boer war, after high mortality rates and appalling conditions were reported there.
When she arrived, Fawcett thought the camps were deeply necessary for the war, and her eventual report said the commission had a ‘generally favourable’ view of them. She also suggested that many of the deaths were caused by the ‘unsanitary habits’ of the Boers. Around 28,000 Boers died in the camps.
Fawcett didn’t have much thought for the participation of Black Africans in society after the war either. In 1899, she wrote that after the settlement of the war;
‘I hope we are too deeply pledged to the principle of equal privileges for all white races to abandon it.’
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/will-sadiq-khan-have-to-knock-down-millicent
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Do you think Sadiq will include his pet project in the list of 'inappropriate' statues he intends to tear down? It begs the question as to whether he is engaging with this exercise simply to boost his personal popularity, considering he proudly unveiled such a statue himself less than two years ago.
The man is a colossal hypocrite. |  |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:34 - Jun 12 with 1667 views | Neath_Jack |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 12:47 - Jun 12 by Catullus |
Edited because I've just seen it, I would expect nothing less from you. Why just you don't call me a racist and be done with it.
Maybe what you missed though is the 1% that have taken our rights away for decades are the rich and powerful? It wasn't a reference to BLM or those protesting in Bristol.
Like I've said, I hate all racism, wherever it comes from and whoever it's directed at but that's never enough for people like you.
Like I also keep saying, people will believe what they want to believe!
Edited agin just to say, at the end of all 3 of those statements would be "but I disagree with the violence" [Post edited 12 Jun 2020 13:00]
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If I wanted to call you a racist, I'd call you one, I wouldn't need your permission to do it. You seem to have a bit of a hard on for wanting to be called one mind, you've mentioned it in a few of your posts, despite not being called one. Proper weird that. |  |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:34 - Jun 12 with 1664 views | Darran |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:31 - Jun 12 by Neath_Jack |
"It’s disgraceful what’s happening but some people just love to make it worse by stirring it up."
F*cking hell, you couldn't make it up!
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And there you go I fully expected to be ridiculed and abused for speaking the 100% truth. |  |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:39 - Jun 12 with 1642 views | Catullus |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:34 - Jun 12 by Neath_Jack |
If I wanted to call you a racist, I'd call you one, I wouldn't need your permission to do it. You seem to have a bit of a hard on for wanting to be called one mind, you've mentioned it in a few of your posts, despite not being called one. Proper weird that. |
You like to intimate it but you're never quite brave enough to actually say it. But, but, but.
You seem to have a hard on for having a go at me. Proper weird that. |  |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:44 - Jun 12 with 1629 views | Neath_Jack |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:39 - Jun 12 by Catullus |
You like to intimate it but you're never quite brave enough to actually say it. But, but, but.
You seem to have a hard on for having a go at me. Proper weird that. |
Give me an example wuss.
Again, give me some more examples on this.
I'll wait.
By the way, forums work by people having different opinions, it's not having a go at you ffs. Snowflake. | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:49 - Jun 12 with 1612 views | Drizzy |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:34 - Jun 12 by Darran |
And there you go I fully expected to be ridiculed and abused for speaking the 100% truth. |
Half the crap you post from Twitter is utter bollocks, Daz. Like the video of the "old Trump supporter" being hit by a supposed BLM protester which was from 2011.
You care more about Diane Abbott's clumsy wording than the fact she receives horrific racist abuse on a daily abuse.
You care about the crimes George Floyd committed in 2011, which he went to prison for, than the fact he was killed over a counterfeit $20 bill.
Incessant race-baiting hiding behind the veneer of truth-seeking. What a pathetic man you've become. |  |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:54 - Jun 12 with 1602 views | Darran |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:49 - Jun 12 by Drizzy |
Half the crap you post from Twitter is utter bollocks, Daz. Like the video of the "old Trump supporter" being hit by a supposed BLM protester which was from 2011.
You care more about Diane Abbott's clumsy wording than the fact she receives horrific racist abuse on a daily abuse.
You care about the crimes George Floyd committed in 2011, which he went to prison for, than the fact he was killed over a counterfeit $20 bill.
Incessant race-baiting hiding behind the veneer of truth-seeking. What a pathetic man you've become. |
Thank you. | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:55 - Jun 12 with 1600 views | Catullus |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:44 - Jun 12 by Neath_Jack |
Give me an example wuss.
Again, give me some more examples on this.
I'll wait.
By the way, forums work by people having different opinions, it's not having a go at you ffs. Snowflake. |
Well you didn't post an opinion beyond intimating I was a racist. You implied on another thread I was a liar with your "DHOTYA" that's only 2 I know but really, I'm not wasting any more time on it. | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:57 - Jun 12 with 1591 views | chad |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 12:05 - Jun 12 by JackSomething |
Don't flatter yourself, I ignore 90% of your posts as they're not worth anyone's time. I down voted your post for you though, as you seem to enjoy it so much. |
Ah, no comment on how your repeated demands for balance always seem so one sided?
Yes of course you ignore my posts, that is why you choose to respond to them with derogatory comments. Dear me, you are actually so obsessed with the detail of them, that you even berated me about how long it took me too reply to another poster.
If that is all you have then I suggest you chill, if you don’t like my posts ignore them, if you want to reply fine I am always interested to hear what people have to say, but just trying to personally put someone down doesn’t reflect well on you as an argument. But don’t worry we women have suffered such prejudice for years, so I am well used to it.
Actually as a person I am certainly not arrogant enough to set myself up as a judge of what others may or may not believe is worthy of their time. I did imply to another poster that my arse was fragrant recently but I think he understood that was just a joke rather than self flattery. Other than that I perceive myself no better or worse than any other person.
It was you who seemed obsessed with the voting, but thank you for your time, and for keeping mart6 company as s/he must feel lonely at times, however I admire people willing to stand out against the crowd, although downvoting condemnation of Discrimination may be seen as a little controversial just now. |  | | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:59 - Jun 12 with 1592 views | Darran |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:44 - Jun 12 by Neath_Jack |
Give me an example wuss.
Again, give me some more examples on this.
I'll wait.
By the way, forums work by people having different opinions, it's not having a go at you ffs. Snowflake. |
Yes they do but not by denouncing the truth. | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:03 - Jun 12 with 1581 views | chad |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:59 - Jun 12 by Darran |
Yes they do but not by denouncing the truth. |
WayneK take note | | | |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:06 - Jun 12 with 1575 views | Darran |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:03 - Jun 12 by chad |
WayneK take note |
Oh he’s just a weirdo.
Another one that uses selective posting. | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:07 - Jun 12 with 1573 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 11:39 - Jun 12 by Catullus |
Does Khan believe in Ohlocracy? He who controls the mob...
Then again it depends on what he thinks of democracy, maybe he agrees with Thomas Jefferson,
“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” |
Thomas Jefferson predicted Brexit it seems. Interesting. |  |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:15 - Jun 12 with 1564 views | Darran |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:49 - Jun 12 by Drizzy |
Half the crap you post from Twitter is utter bollocks, Daz. Like the video of the "old Trump supporter" being hit by a supposed BLM protester which was from 2011.
You care more about Diane Abbott's clumsy wording than the fact she receives horrific racist abuse on a daily abuse.
You care about the crimes George Floyd committed in 2011, which he went to prison for, than the fact he was killed over a counterfeit $20 bill.
Incessant race-baiting hiding behind the veneer of truth-seeking. What a pathetic man you've become. |
Out of curiosity and being 100% serious Lisa did a similar thing earlier why didn’t you accuse her of race baiting? | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:21 - Jun 12 with 1550 views | chad |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:49 - Jun 12 by Drizzy |
Half the crap you post from Twitter is utter bollocks, Daz. Like the video of the "old Trump supporter" being hit by a supposed BLM protester which was from 2011.
You care more about Diane Abbott's clumsy wording than the fact she receives horrific racist abuse on a daily abuse.
You care about the crimes George Floyd committed in 2011, which he went to prison for, than the fact he was killed over a counterfeit $20 bill.
Incessant race-baiting hiding behind the veneer of truth-seeking. What a pathetic man you've become. |
I think some of Diane Abbott’s comments go well beyond clumsy wording. They are out and out racist. And to pretend that is not so, enables racism of all sorts IMHO.
Of course that is no excuse for racism she or anyone else receives.
However people may judge her for this. For instance Leon said just above...
‘I'm very clear and happy to not be on the side of racists. They don't need to be considered, they don't need a voice and there should be no place for them.
There's no need or room for balance when it comes to racists.’ | | | |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:26 - Jun 12 with 1542 views | londonlisa2001 |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:15 - Jun 12 by Darran |
Out of curiosity and being 100% serious Lisa did a similar thing earlier why didn’t you accuse her of race baiting? |
I did not.
You realise I said it was related to Garner not Floyd from the start don’t you? | | | |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:37 - Jun 12 with 1528 views | Humpty |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 13:24 - Jun 12 by Darran |
You can’t say anything on here that’s true anymore for the likes of Humpty,Lisa etc to start calling you a racist or troll.
There was a video on here two weeks ago of a female,black,right wing Trump supporter saying that George Floyd once held a gun to a pregnant black womans stomach to keep her quiet whilst his chums ransacked her house.
She spoke the truth,the 100% truth and she got some incredible abuse for speaking that truth.
They were all kicking off here,Humpty was going radio rental even though he hadn’t even watched the video.
One poster across the pond even said she’s called an Aunt Jemima in America,apparently a dreadful racial slur.
But like I said she was speaking the truth the 100% truth.
A few weeks ago on Twitter I laughed at Diane Abbott saying Lebanon was in Europe. A poster off here replied to me saying “don’t be a racist.” and even when I asked him the following day why he was abusing Priti Patel he said “that’s different.”
It’s all a bit sad really with no balance anymore,I’ve said for years on here that I can’t work out this left v right bollox and I’m usually right.
It’s disgraceful what’s happening but some people just love to make it worse by stirring it up. |
Bollocks.
I didn't abuse that women for anything she said in that video. I don't know what she said as I didn't watch it.
I just pointed out what that women is. Someone who tells lies for a living. |  | | |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:45 - Jun 12 with 1513 views | Darran |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:37 - Jun 12 by Humpty |
Bollocks.
I didn't abuse that women for anything she said in that video. I don't know what she said as I didn't watch it.
I just pointed out what that women is. Someone who tells lies for a living. |
So what she said in the video wasn’t 100% true it was all lies then was it?
Fuçking hell you’ve just proved my point.  | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:49 - Jun 12 with 1505 views | chad |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 18:11 - Jun 11 by LeonWasGod |
I was only talking about racists. Racists aren't the victim and I'm quite happy for them to be abused too (preferably locked up).
I'm very clear and happy to not be on the side of racists. They don't need to be considered, they don't need a voice and there should be no place for them.
There's no need or room for balance when it comes to racists. |
The question is how do you define racist?
Given the way the term is thrown out on here, I don’t think it unreasonable to assume that your ambiguous statement implied anyone unhappy with what was going on with the statue was racist.
And remember despite what Humpty repeatedly said it was the Labour Lord Mayor who stopped the prepared plaque, clearly outlining Colston’s link to the slave trade, from being attached to the statue. Was that good enough I don’t know but it was certainly better than nothing.
But once you allow mob rule, we all know where it is going.
As far as racists on either side, unless you cull them, we do need to consider them. Unless you would prefer the cull, Planet Swans Definition of racism as decider for who goes?
Edit. As far as victim, I was referring to the group, seemingly branded as racists by your comment, for merely having a valid concern about allowing mob rule. [Post edited 12 Jun 2020 15:14]
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:49 - Jun 12 with 1505 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:21 - Jun 12 by chad |
I think some of Diane Abbott’s comments go well beyond clumsy wording. They are out and out racist. And to pretend that is not so, enables racism of all sorts IMHO.
Of course that is no excuse for racism she or anyone else receives.
However people may judge her for this. For instance Leon said just above...
‘I'm very clear and happy to not be on the side of racists. They don't need to be considered, they don't need a voice and there should be no place for them.
There's no need or room for balance when it comes to racists.’ |
Is that the same Diane Abbot who said London shouldn't have another white mayor?
It is such a shame that the first black female MP sets such a poor example to her constituents and the rest of the country in terms of pushing back against racism. | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:52 - Jun 12 with 1497 views | Humpty |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:45 - Jun 12 by Darran |
So what she said in the video wasn’t 100% true it was all lies then was it?
Fuçking hell you’ve just proved my point. |
I've no idea.
I don't know what she said in it you f*cking plank. | | | |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:58 - Jun 12 with 1486 views | Darran |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:52 - Jun 12 by Humpty |
I've no idea.
I don't know what she said in it you f*cking plank. |
But you started grizzling without listening to it.
She might have said Grass is green.
Keep proving me right Hump. | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 15:05 - Jun 12 with 1477 views | Humpty |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 14:58 - Jun 12 by Darran |
But you started grizzling without listening to it.
She might have said Grass is green.
Keep proving me right Hump. |
I can't find the said thread so I'm relying on memory.
I didn't "grizzle" about anything she said. I've no interests in anything she said. I know she lies for a living and I'm not interested in what people like that have to say.
Simple as that, even for you. | | | |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 15:15 - Jun 12 with 1465 views | Darran |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 15:05 - Jun 12 by Humpty |
I can't find the said thread so I'm relying on memory.
I didn't "grizzle" about anything she said. I've no interests in anything she said. I know she lies for a living and I'm not interested in what people like that have to say.
Simple as that, even for you. |
Having no interest in the truth because of the mouth it comes out of is part of the problem.
And you were grizzling too. | |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 15:18 - Jun 12 with 1460 views | NotLoyal |
| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 11:57 - Jun 12 by controversial_jack |
This is a great distraction for the govt.Takes away the focus of their criminally negligent handling of the Corona virus crisis, and they can also blame the protesters if we have a second wave |
I refer you to my answer of three weeks ago. |  |
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| London Mayor Sadiq Khan on 18:59 - Jun 12 with 1414 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Sadiq's London.
Do statues and memorials always have to be covered up when protests take place in London? I do not think so. Those planning to vandalise statues and memorials this weekend are criminals, not protesters. | |
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