| Keir Starmer loses ground... 08:58 - Aug 20 with 3858 views | Kerouac |
...in the 'Savanta ComRes survey' Boris Johnson has extended his lead on Starmer by 4 points.
Why do you think this is?
Do you take polls seriously?
What is Keir getting wrong? |  |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 09:51 - Aug 21 with 1333 views | waynekerr55 |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 21:49 - Aug 20 by BillyChong |
It takes some doing to stick up for Boris Johnson whilst having a pop at teachers |
I suppose the customs ports in Kent will be someone else's fault... |  |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 10:20 - Aug 21 with 1309 views | Professor |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 09:50 - Aug 21 by waynekerr55 |
No. They. Haven't. |
Like universities are closed. Why I am having meetings most days when I’m my annual ‘leave’? |  | | |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 14:20 - Aug 21 with 1251 views | controversial_jack |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 20:38 - Aug 20 by felixstowe_jack |
Boris is on holiday in Scotland no doubt in contact with anyone who needs to get in touch.
The teachers have been on holiday since March. |
I hope he's not shaking hands again | | | |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 14:44 - Aug 21 with 1237 views | Best_loser |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 14:20 - Aug 21 by controversial_jack |
I hope he's not shaking hands again |
Maybe he is saying goodbye
The conservative and unionist party
Might not be that much longer |  | | |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 15:04 - Aug 21 with 1219 views | Catullus |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 19:18 - Aug 20 by Nortbankboy |
Are u real?not much to call the liar out on!
Feck me he's disappeared again.
When anything goes wrong he goes missing.
He's no Winston Churchill |
He's been called out on nearly all of it though. If Starmer keeps banging on about things that have bben said already he might look a bit desperate.
Sometimes it's better to be quiet and wait. Someone like Bojo will give him something to get stuck into soon, it's a guarantee.
I think immigration is a rising topic and there'll be more to beat Bojo with there. The BTEC results have been held back. Covid hasn'r gone away though Bojo has and if something occurs whilst he's off having fun that'll be brought up.
You don't need to keep shouting someone down and that's not Starmers style either. Starmer is more clinical, instead of using a verbal baseball bat to beat him with, Starmer will use a scalpel and disect him, that's my opinion. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 16:24 - Aug 21 with 1187 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 15:04 - Aug 21 by Catullus |
He's been called out on nearly all of it though. If Starmer keeps banging on about things that have bben said already he might look a bit desperate.
Sometimes it's better to be quiet and wait. Someone like Bojo will give him something to get stuck into soon, it's a guarantee.
I think immigration is a rising topic and there'll be more to beat Bojo with there. The BTEC results have been held back. Covid hasn'r gone away though Bojo has and if something occurs whilst he's off having fun that'll be brought up.
You don't need to keep shouting someone down and that's not Starmers style either. Starmer is more clinical, instead of using a verbal baseball bat to beat him with, Starmer will use a scalpel and disect him, that's my opinion. |
Starmer complaining today that the evil Tories have stopped landlords from evicting tenants until the end of September. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 16:35 - Aug 21 with 1184 views | Highjack |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 16:24 - Aug 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Starmer complaining today that the evil Tories have stopped landlords from evicting tenants until the end of September. |
They’re probably hoping more people will die off in the cold autumnal nights. |  |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 11:38 - Aug 22 with 1100 views | Catullus |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 16:24 - Aug 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Starmer complaining today that the evil Tories have stopped landlords from evicting tenants until the end of September. |
I'm surprised no avid Labour supporter jumped on that to deny that Labour are as cold and heartless as the Tories!
Whenever I do it (criticise Labour) they always come running to shout me down, they must like you  | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 17:28 - Aug 22 with 1064 views | chad |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 19:01 - Aug 20 by waynekerr55 |
Well given that Jezza was the leader and he ultimately signed it off... |
As said when this was debated previously. Corbyn had little choice but to accept it, once (to the applause of many delegates), Sir Keir (the ardent Remainer), took the opportunity to, unscripted, slip the prospect of overturning the Brexit vote, into his conference speech,
As I have said before, McClusky, and also a number of those that lost their seats, blame Starmer for the election loss.
Interesting that Starmer was nominated and elected as leader of Labour on a radical position. But then it seems he is a radical at heart, as his previous paper, questioning if the police had any future role in this country, attests. It seems the left intend to hold him to the radical position, that helped get him elected to lead the Labour Party.
From the Independent...
The Unite general secretary played down suggestions that he might scale back his political interventions ahead of his retirement in 2022, and said he would be keeping a close eye on Sir Keir to ensure he keeps to his leadership election pledges to carry forward parts of Corbyn’s “radical” programme.
“The fact is that Keir Starmer ran on a radical programme, some might say a Corbyn programme, and of course I keep this to hand,” said Mr McCluskey. “I intend to keep that front and centre for the coming months and years.” |  | | |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 10:11 - Aug 23 with 1017 views | Brynmill_Jack |
And how are your beloved lib dems doing Kerouac ha ha ha |  |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 11:13 - Aug 23 with 990 views | waynekerr55 |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 17:28 - Aug 22 by chad |
As said when this was debated previously. Corbyn had little choice but to accept it, once (to the applause of many delegates), Sir Keir (the ardent Remainer), took the opportunity to, unscripted, slip the prospect of overturning the Brexit vote, into his conference speech,
As I have said before, McClusky, and also a number of those that lost their seats, blame Starmer for the election loss.
Interesting that Starmer was nominated and elected as leader of Labour on a radical position. But then it seems he is a radical at heart, as his previous paper, questioning if the police had any future role in this country, attests. It seems the left intend to hold him to the radical position, that helped get him elected to lead the Labour Party.
From the Independent...
The Unite general secretary played down suggestions that he might scale back his political interventions ahead of his retirement in 2022, and said he would be keeping a close eye on Sir Keir to ensure he keeps to his leadership election pledges to carry forward parts of Corbyn’s “radical” programme.
“The fact is that Keir Starmer ran on a radical programme, some might say a Corbyn programme, and of course I keep this to hand,” said Mr McCluskey. “I intend to keep that front and centre for the coming months and years.” |
Call it a coincidence but don't you find it strange that the "sabotage" group ran a more successful campaign than Corbyn's lackeys aided by Shamless Milne.
And if your hypothesis is correct (it may well be), it just goes to show how poor a leader he was in that he "had to accept" that stance. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 21:22 - Aug 23 with 942 views | Kerouac |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 10:11 - Aug 23 by Brynmill_Jack |
And how are your beloved lib dems doing Kerouac ha ha ha |
Well, as you know, I'm not a Lib Dem anymore.
They are doing appallingly in the polls and are electing a new leader. Received an e-mail today asking me to vote for Layla Moran;
"This contest is so close; your final votes will determine the very fabric and future of the Liberal Democrats. Before it’s too late, have your say and vote.
I am standing because in my heart I am convinced our Party can do better than 6% in the polls. I can feel the courage and the strength in our membership to move our party forward together, and to give our country the compelling liberal voice it so desperately needs.
This isn’t just a gut feeling. Having listened to voters and members I have a plan to rebuild trust and help us win votes again.
It starts with better living our values, listening to voters, and showing that we’re on their side, through a core message, a strong media presence and an empowered activist base.
It’s how I overturned a 10,000 Conservative majority in my constituency, winning over thousands of moderate Conservative voters while consolidating the progressive vote.
Vote for me as leader, and we can do this nationally. We can win back votes and change the way things are.
I’m urging you to seize this moment, to vote for me to rescue and revive our Party. Together with the thousands already backing me, please have the courage to change the things that are holding us back.
A vote for me is a vote to move on from the coalition - to do more campaigning, and less explaining. To stand on a genuine and authentic progressive platform, which delivers for the most vulnerable and all communities across our country.
Ballots close at 1pm on Wednesday 26th August. Vote for me before it’s too late, and let’s move forward, together.
Best,
Layla"
Vote Layla branding
P.s. Please vote before the deadline of 1pm on Wednesday 26th August. Search your inbox for the voting email from the returning officer, Alan Masters. If you haven’t received a ballot, email [elections@libdems.org.uk]elections@libdems.org.uk
...but as you may have figured out, I will not be participating as they no longer have my vote and my support. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 22:07 - Aug 23 with 916 views | Highjack |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 21:22 - Aug 23 by Kerouac |
Well, as you know, I'm not a Lib Dem anymore.
They are doing appallingly in the polls and are electing a new leader. Received an e-mail today asking me to vote for Layla Moran;
"This contest is so close; your final votes will determine the very fabric and future of the Liberal Democrats. Before it’s too late, have your say and vote.
I am standing because in my heart I am convinced our Party can do better than 6% in the polls. I can feel the courage and the strength in our membership to move our party forward together, and to give our country the compelling liberal voice it so desperately needs.
This isn’t just a gut feeling. Having listened to voters and members I have a plan to rebuild trust and help us win votes again.
It starts with better living our values, listening to voters, and showing that we’re on their side, through a core message, a strong media presence and an empowered activist base.
It’s how I overturned a 10,000 Conservative majority in my constituency, winning over thousands of moderate Conservative voters while consolidating the progressive vote.
Vote for me as leader, and we can do this nationally. We can win back votes and change the way things are.
I’m urging you to seize this moment, to vote for me to rescue and revive our Party. Together with the thousands already backing me, please have the courage to change the things that are holding us back.
A vote for me is a vote to move on from the coalition - to do more campaigning, and less explaining. To stand on a genuine and authentic progressive platform, which delivers for the most vulnerable and all communities across our country.
Ballots close at 1pm on Wednesday 26th August. Vote for me before it’s too late, and let’s move forward, together.
Best,
Layla"
Vote Layla branding
P.s. Please vote before the deadline of 1pm on Wednesday 26th August. Search your inbox for the voting email from the returning officer, Alan Masters. If you haven’t received a ballot, email [elections@libdems.org.uk]elections@libdems.org.uk
...but as you may have figured out, I will not be participating as they no longer have my vote and my support. |
“ in my heart I am convinced our Party can do better than 6% in the polls.”
Well with that level of ambition who can possibly stop them?
The bit about listening to the voters is also clearly a lie. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 22:14 - Aug 23 with 910 views | Joe_bradshaw |
I'd vote for Layla.
She's got me on my knees. |  |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 22:44 - Aug 23 with 900 views | Highjack |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 22:14 - Aug 23 by Joe_bradshaw |
I'd vote for Layla.
She's got me on my knees. |
Her partner was on his knees that time she got arrested for assaulting him. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 10:43 - Aug 24 with 858 views | chad |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 11:13 - Aug 23 by waynekerr55 |
Call it a coincidence but don't you find it strange that the "sabotage" group ran a more successful campaign than Corbyn's lackeys aided by Shamless Milne.
And if your hypothesis is correct (it may well be), it just goes to show how poor a leader he was in that he "had to accept" that stance. |
Sorry Wayne where are you quoting the following from?
‘ “sabotage” ‘ or
‘ “had to accept” ‘
I assumed, you were quoting from my post, but cannot seem to see either of those statements there, am I missing it? I did say he had ‘little choice’ which is quite different.
I tend to try to avoid absolutes as much as possible in such situations
Not sure if outing your Brexit rep for unscripted slipping in the option of overturning the Brexit vote (after it received such a strong positive reception by many at conference) would have been the most viable way to go. Or that particular action, made him a poor leader.
Corbyn understood that many traditional Labour voters were (like him) fairly tepid about the EU and likely voted to get out. He also understood many others wanted to remain. He was trying to keep the cat in the bag and not alienate either side, as he understood the massive impact that would have had in terms of lost votes. Sir Keir let that particular cat out of the bag. It’s howling, if they tried to stuff it back in, would only underline it’s imprisonment and escape more.
Not dissimilar, the the tightrope Sir Keir is currently treading, between his more radical origins, and the ticket, he was elected as leader of the Labour Party on, and trying to some extent to distance himself away from that and appear more balanced, in order to appeal to most people. Of course as Corbyn found, it is a fine line to tread. | | | |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 12:18 - Aug 24 with 841 views | Catullus |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 22:14 - Aug 23 by Joe_bradshaw |
I'd vote for Layla.
She's got me on my knees. |
She'd have to get on her knees to even get me to consider thinking about possibly voting for her!
I've seen her on tv a few times and she's just another political chameleon, changing her colours to try and win votes but if she wins it'll be back to her true colours. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 13:22 - Aug 24 with 826 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 12:18 - Aug 24 by Catullus |
She'd have to get on her knees to even get me to consider thinking about possibly voting for her!
I've seen her on tv a few times and she's just another political chameleon, changing her colours to try and win votes but if she wins it'll be back to her true colours. |
I begged her darling, please. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 13:25 - Aug 24 with 825 views | Highjack |
She’s pansexual which means she fancies all the member of pans people. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 13:34 - Aug 24 with 817 views | Catullus |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 13:25 - Aug 24 by Highjack |
She’s pansexual which means she fancies all the member of pans people. |
Is she? Well she's welcome to Eddie Izzard! | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 10:18 - Aug 30 with 755 views | BillyChong |
Mental how as much as 40% polled still back Johnson after the last few months | | | |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 11:13 - Aug 30 with 737 views | Catullus |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 10:18 - Aug 30 by BillyChong |
Mental how as much as 40% polled still back Johnson after the last few months |
Some people will always vote the same way no matter what the evidence is, that is true of all sides.
Imagine where we might be now if Corbyn had been ousted in 2017?
I'm not often 100% right but I like it when I am and I said many times that Corbyn would never be PM, I argued with several Corbynistas about it. It's just sad that it took a Bojo victory to prove to Labour (and to Corbyn) that Corbyn had to go! He still hung on too long though.
Thing is, if Starmer wins the next GE he has a hell of a lot to prove. And honestly, I still cannot vote for my local Labour MP, Steven Kinnock. | |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 12:39 - Aug 30 with 709 views | NotLoyal |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 13:25 - Aug 24 by Highjack |
She’s pansexual which means she fancies all the member of pans people. |
Pansexual clearly doesn’t mean that, it’s about cooking with a stiffy using a variety of non stick, Teflon based products.
This site is full of nut jobs, apparently who only use right handed utensils, I hope support is keeping an eye on this. |  |
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| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 19:40 - Aug 30 with 672 views | Catullus |
| Keir Starmer loses ground... on 12:39 - Aug 30 by NotLoyal |
Pansexual clearly doesn’t mean that, it’s about cooking with a stiffy using a variety of non stick, Teflon based products.
This site is full of nut jobs, apparently who only use right handed utensils, I hope support is keeping an eye on this. |
I prefer bisexual cooking implements which I hang from a rack above the oven, though swinging both ways means they sometimes hit me in the head.
My pans have detachable handles, what kind of a nut am I? | |
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