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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. 21:19 - Aug 24 with 15271 viewsAndy1300

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 01:54 - Aug 26 with 1367 viewsDr_Parnassus

Fine, fine people. What are we complaining about right? This is more than acceptable.

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 02:12 - Aug 26 with 1351 viewsDr_Parnassus

Whilst grabbing those videos that the media clearly won’t touch as they continue to pretend the riots are peaceful... I came across this. A wonderful summary from a woman that never fails to impress me every time she speaks.

Can anyone argue against what she says? It’s my view in a nutshell, I would be interested to see if anyone is brave enough to explain their counter. Hump?

Tell us what they are fighting for if you can. Be specific, don’t just say “racism” or “equality”, give me specific issues and then I will look into the validity of them. Fair? Because you can be damned sure the likes that were protesting in the MLK era would be able to make unarguable points of clear systemic racism with absolute ease and clarity.

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 09:40 - Aug 26 with 1292 viewsLohengrin

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 01:54 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus

Fine, fine people. What are we complaining about right? This is more than acceptable.

[Post edited 26 Aug 2020 1:57]


Communism to the two-legged is as distemper to the four. An affliction as unchanging as it is unclean.


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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 09:50 - Aug 26 with 1286 viewsNotLoyal

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 09:40 - Aug 26 by Lohengrin

Communism to the two-legged is as distemper to the four. An affliction as unchanging as it is unclean.



Nice to see you didn’t leave permanently Loh 👍
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OK I've changed it.
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 09:56 - Aug 26 with 1270 viewsDr_Parnassus

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 09:40 - Aug 26 by Lohengrin

Communism to the two-legged is as distemper to the four. An affliction as unchanging as it is unclean.



Beat you to it, check bottom of last page

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 09:58 - Aug 26 with 1264 viewsAndy1300

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 09:40 - Aug 26 by Lohengrin

Communism to the two-legged is as distemper to the four. An affliction as unchanging as it is unclean.



Wise words from Maajid

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 10:43 - Aug 26 with 1240 viewsCatullus

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 02:12 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus

Whilst grabbing those videos that the media clearly won’t touch as they continue to pretend the riots are peaceful... I came across this. A wonderful summary from a woman that never fails to impress me every time she speaks.

Can anyone argue against what she says? It’s my view in a nutshell, I would be interested to see if anyone is brave enough to explain their counter. Hump?

Tell us what they are fighting for if you can. Be specific, don’t just say “racism” or “equality”, give me specific issues and then I will look into the validity of them. Fair? Because you can be damned sure the likes that were protesting in the MLK era would be able to make unarguable points of clear systemic racism with absolute ease and clarity.

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The problem is as she says though, they have had it so easy that what they see as an injustice to argue over many of us older people see as everyday life.

We live in an age when young people feel who feel thretened need a safe space, they don't know how to stand up for themselves unless it's in a mob, like the one in that twitter video. They don't feel safe being around people who don't entirely agree with them.
What were they were proclaiming in the footage, "if we don't share it shut it down" is that right or have I misheard?
They cannot see that in their fight against injustice they are behaving just like "the mob"

“There is nothing virtuous or noble about being "tolerant" of people whose attitudes and behaviors you approve of. If you don't defend the freedom of even those individuals whose attitudes and behaviors you find disgusting, narrow-minded and offensive, then you are not tolerant. To "tolerate" doesn't mean you like it or approve of it; it means only that you ALLOW it to EXIST--i.e., you refrain from violently interfering. The people who look to "government" to FORCE people to be "nice" are not tolerant.”
― Larken Rose

quote taken from 'goodreads.com'

Nietzsche said "The mob is the most ruthless of tyrants" and when mob mentality takes over bad things happen.

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 11:23 - Aug 26 with 1222 viewsLohengrin

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 09:56 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus

Beat you to it, check bottom of last page


So you did. What was Napoleon’s maxim again? “Leap before you look.”

I do that a lot.

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 11:26 - Aug 26 with 1218 viewsLohengrin

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 09:50 - Aug 26 by NotLoyal

Nice to see you didn’t leave permanently Loh 👍
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I haven’t been anywhere really, mate. I’ve just been working silly hours for the last six weeks or so.

Knackered now though, feeling my age and then some.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 13:56 - Aug 26 with 1186 viewsCatullus

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:57 - Aug 25 by Humpty

Agree with you about WW1, I was talking more about the replay.

I still think it's a bit of a push to say we were defending ourselves. Hitler had no desire to attack the UK.


Hang on, we gave Hitler a chance to avoid war, we told him to retreat from Poland or it would be war. Having given our word to the Poles (after already shafting the Czechs) we had no choice.
Hitler might not have intended to invade Britain in 1939 but strategically speaking, he would have done at some point. He knew of Japans intentions and knew if they entered the war the USA needed a staging post, without the UK there would be no platform to invade and free Europe from the Nazis.
Don't forget that we sent masses of aid to Russia too, if Hitler occupied the UK he'd have prevented us helping Russia and he always intended to invade Russia.
There are several reasons why Hitler was reticent too invade though, first he needed air superiority because he didn't have the seaborne capability to invade without being destroyed by the Royal Navy. He didn't have the amphibious capability. When he lost the Battle of Britain he had to rethink.
If Japan had waited to attack the USA and then Hitler had waited to attack Russia, things could have been very different.

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 13:58 - Aug 26 with 1184 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The "murder" of George Floyd that started all this has just become much murkier.
It would appear that the coroner in this case is going to find death by drug overdose.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/

As well as that the timeline of the various emergency services show that Floyd did not die at the scene, but died later in the Ambulance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Has the information been suitably adjusted, who knows?
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 14:07 - Aug 26 with 1179 viewsCatullus

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 13:58 - Aug 26 by A_Fans_Dad

The "murder" of George Floyd that started all this has just become much murkier.
It would appear that the coroner in this case is going to find death by drug overdose.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/

As well as that the timeline of the various emergency services show that Floyd did not die at the scene, but died later in the Ambulance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Has the information been suitably adjusted, who knows?
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This latest shooting, I've read that ordinary people are taking their legally owned weapons and trying to defend their businesses, as a result two more people have been shot and killed.
Why is the reaction to an injustice always an attack on inncoent people's property? Why are more deaths acceptable? How is that justice?

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 14:12 - Aug 26 with 1177 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 14:07 - Aug 26 by Catullus

This latest shooting, I've read that ordinary people are taking their legally owned weapons and trying to defend their businesses, as a result two more people have been shot and killed.
Why is the reaction to an injustice always an attack on inncoent people's property? Why are more deaths acceptable? How is that justice?


There certainly was no justice for the BAME kids killed by BLM/Antifa in the Seattle CHAZ area for just being there.
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 14:36 - Aug 26 with 1167 viewsDr_Parnassus

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 13:58 - Aug 26 by A_Fans_Dad

The "murder" of George Floyd that started all this has just become much murkier.
It would appear that the coroner in this case is going to find death by drug overdose.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/

As well as that the timeline of the various emergency services show that Floyd did not die at the scene, but died later in the Ambulance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Has the information been suitably adjusted, who knows?
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Well this has been rumoured for quite some time. Since the body cam footage came out it showed him saying he couldn’t breathe long before he went to ground. Which is usually a direct symptom of fentanyl abuse.

Make no mistake that having a knee shoved in your neck certainly won’t make that any better. Chauvin was still a bad cop on a massive power trip and certainly deserved jail time. Floyd was not a thread when on the ground. It was the neglect that is the main issue for me there, he was clearly struggling from the drugs he took and the position he was in.

Avoidable.

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 15:19 - Aug 26 with 1147 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Who called for the medics?
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 17:14 - Aug 26 with 1126 viewsHumpty

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 01:28 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus

Wow what a shock, Humpty enters a discussion making unfounded accusations and attacking someone’s character.

And no doubt will absolutely refuse to explain himself. As certain as night follows day.

I’m one of the most fair minded individuals you would ever meet, of that I can sure you. I hate discrimination of any kind and when there is a fight to be fought I am happily endorsing it. What fight is being fought currently then? Educate me.

What are you basing your Ill thought out post on exactly?
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What am I basing it on? I've already explained why to Kerouac.
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 17:15 - Aug 26 with 1125 viewsHumpty

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 02:12 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus

Whilst grabbing those videos that the media clearly won’t touch as they continue to pretend the riots are peaceful... I came across this. A wonderful summary from a woman that never fails to impress me every time she speaks.

Can anyone argue against what she says? It’s my view in a nutshell, I would be interested to see if anyone is brave enough to explain their counter. Hump?

Tell us what they are fighting for if you can. Be specific, don’t just say “racism” or “equality”, give me specific issues and then I will look into the validity of them. Fair? Because you can be damned sure the likes that were protesting in the MLK era would be able to make unarguable points of clear systemic racism with absolute ease and clarity.

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Candace Owens. Laughable.
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 18:04 - Aug 26 with 1112 viewschad

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 17:15 - Aug 26 by Humpty

Candace Owens. Laughable.


Do you find beating up a ‘gammon’ funny too Humps.

That is what you would call that defenceless old man, putting his life on the line to protect his livelihood, isn’t it. Isn’t it funny him being beaten up by thugs. Scum of the earth. Only pure luck he was not killed, who would be getting on their knees for him. BLM yea, let’s donate more money to that UK political organisation of the same name, who wants to destroy our country and openly discriminates against black people who don’t share their political objectives (skin ain’t necessarily kin, was it). What did that black activist say about their last airport protest, the only black thing was the tarmac?

All lives matter
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 19:56 - Aug 26 with 1082 viewsHumpty

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 18:04 - Aug 26 by chad

Do you find beating up a ‘gammon’ funny too Humps.

That is what you would call that defenceless old man, putting his life on the line to protect his livelihood, isn’t it. Isn’t it funny him being beaten up by thugs. Scum of the earth. Only pure luck he was not killed, who would be getting on their knees for him. BLM yea, let’s donate more money to that UK political organisation of the same name, who wants to destroy our country and openly discriminates against black people who don’t share their political objectives (skin ain’t necessarily kin, was it). What did that black activist say about their last airport protest, the only black thing was the tarmac?

All lives matter
Racism is not acceptable - Hump and Kilks take note


I've absolutely no idea what you're on about.

Do you really think I find an old man being beaten up funny?
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 20:19 - Aug 26 with 1071 viewscontroversial_jack

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 14:07 - Aug 26 by Catullus

This latest shooting, I've read that ordinary people are taking their legally owned weapons and trying to defend their businesses, as a result two more people have been shot and killed.
Why is the reaction to an injustice always an attack on inncoent people's property? Why are more deaths acceptable? How is that justice?


They weren't ordinary people protecting their businesses, they were right wing para military.They opened fire on the protesters
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:12 - Aug 26 with 1050 viewsProfessor

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 20:19 - Aug 26 by controversial_jack

They weren't ordinary people protecting their businesses, they were right wing para military.They opened fire on the protesters


Perfectly normal to have a 17 year old with an assault
Rifle in an area of civil unrest
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 23:02 - Aug 26 with 996 viewsDJack

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 11:26 - Aug 26 by Lohengrin

I haven’t been anywhere really, mate. I’ve just been working silly hours for the last six weeks or so.

Knackered now though, feeling my age and then some.


So you're loaded! Send us all some beer tokens then.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 23:07 - Aug 26 with 992 viewscontroversial_jack

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 21:12 - Aug 26 by Professor

Perfectly normal to have a 17 year old with an assault
Rifle in an area of civil unrest


I hope that's sarcasm!
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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 23:14 - Aug 26 with 987 viewsDJack

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 23:07 - Aug 26 by controversial_jack

I hope that's sarcasm!



It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 00:46 - Aug 27 with 961 viewsDr_Parnassus

Perhaps they should stop the kneeling now. on 17:15 - Aug 26 by Humpty

Candace Owens. Laughable.


Which part do you disagree with and why?

Or is it more fun calling people racists because you can’t discuss your view without it being ripped apart by common sense and reality?

Up to you.

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