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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City 14:49 - Sep 16 with 6414 viewsNotLoyal

Liberty Stadium, Swansea
Saturday 19th September 2020
Kick off 3pm




Referee is Gavin Ward, guitarist with Bolt Thrower

In the past, Swansea Independent Spotlight
Swansea City 4 - 0 Birmingham City
Division Two - February 16, 1952

The Swans put in an impressive performance in front of the Vetch Field faithful, with goals from Frank Scrine, Alf Bellis and Ivor Allchurch securing a comprehensive victory. Birmingham’s robust style of play had seen them lead the league table not long before, but the visitors struggled to deal with the attacking flair of Swansea. Scrine’s goal was followed up by a double from Bellis, who put the home side out of sight before Allchurch put the seal on the triumph with a fourth goal in the dying minutes. Swansea’s win was made all-the-more impressive in the following weeks as the Blues went on an eight-game unbeaten run, losing just twice more in the league that campaign.

Ivor Allchurch bossed this spotlight game, Liverpudlian Alf Bellis who died in 2013 scored a brace.

Birmingham facts
Zulu’s

There is an apparent reputation founded back in Birmingham time when baggy trousered males of differing cultures would gather together and shout ‘Zulu’ at each other. They moved on quickly and started running about shouting Zulu at anyone who would listen, and then running towards visiting fans at St Andrews shouting Zulu at them as well. Zulu was popular.

Here are some blurry faced chaps who probably shouted Zulu quite a lot
Conversely this is a real Zulu, there is no historical information available as to what he shouted, or indeed when
It’s an interesting fact that the Zulu warriors of old caught a cold at Rorkes Drift when a welsh regiment shoved all sorts of lead up their Jacksys. In 1964 a film was made of the event, you will see from the photo below that the Welsh regiment were wearing The official Wales home jersey for this event, even though they were actually playing away from home.

In formation, a sort of 4 3 3 it would be described as today are the Welsh tearing the Zulus a new one. Hats are no longer worn in football matches.

Birmingham City star player.
Adam Clayton

Adam is an influential no nonsense midfielder who continues to be the glue in the side when he plays. The only issues the swans may face will be if Gavin Ward and Adam know each other through their musical endeavours. Unconscious bias is something numerous referees could be accused of, however in this case we hope they leave any music chat to after the game.

Adam Clayton at home yesterday

Anyone in any doubt this is Adam the day before

Numerous Swansea City players have left the club for Birmingham City. John Cornforth. Andy Legge and Jason Bowen are memorable transfers. Then owner Barry Fry had a liking for Swansea's midfield during the nineties. Most recently Wales on Line described Jefferson Montero as a Swansea misfit upon leaving the Midlands club on June 30th as a free agent. Montero is still only thirty and it seems is destined for an injury ridden end to his career.

Statto time


My first trip to Birmingham was in 1995 with the old MAGS from Gloucester etc. How we came away with a win still baffles me today. John Hodge scored a penalty, zulus were out with smiley faces, our mini bus had an empty McDonald’s carton thrown at it causing ...
No damage at all. Marc Clode was sent off. If I recall it was at half time, somebody will correct me but I recall a Birmingham fan running on the pitch and trying to attack Jon Forde ? Anyway, it’s all in the game as they say. That could have been another game.
The local football phone in had one Birmingham supporter stating when you lose to Swansea you know you are in the shit 😂


John Hodge, came to the MAGS end of season dinner in 1995 in Gloucester, caused mayhem, went to his hotel Very drunk after leaving much disaster in his wake. The pub, which I think was called the The Dog at Over on the A40 had bouncers in because gypsies were coming in to the bar and causing problems. Hodge found out they were from Cardiff, one tapped his head and BOOOOOM ! It didn’t end well. Oh happy days. It’s a Matchday thread with a difference this week.

More interesting Matchday stats will follow

Possibly.




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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 14:29 - Sep 19 with 1619 viewsjasper_T

Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 14:18 - Sep 19 by A_Fans_Dad

Jasper, any news on the U18s game today?
Nothing on the official site and their twitter account.


Won 3-1. Conceded an early goal. Josh Thomas equaliser. Cameron Congreve free kick and Morgan Clarke penalty in the second half.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 14:33 - Sep 19 with 1600 viewsNotLoyal

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Won 3-1. Conceded an early goal. Josh Thomas equaliser. Cameron Congreve free kick and Morgan Clarke penalty in the second half.

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The club don’t seem keen to communicate much from our junior sides.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 15:02 - Sep 19 with 1527 viewsNotLoyal

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The club don’t seem keen to communicate much from our junior sides.


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We are off!


Promising start.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 15:16 - Sep 19 with 1466 viewsNotLoyal

Ref loves a whistle atm.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 15:26 - Sep 19 with 1425 viewsJohnw102

Looking good at the moment playing two touch football, just need the goal now.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 15:40 - Sep 19 with 1349 viewsNotLoyal

Gibbs White, hit it 😂 shouid have got a goal there.
Decent effort from Grimes too from the free kick.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 15:48 - Sep 19 with 1324 viewsjasper_T

Ref's watching a different game. In our favour so far though.
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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 15:51 - Sep 19 with 1286 viewsNotLoyal

Tatey throat grab, oh dear.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 15:53 - Sep 19 with 1261 viewsjackrabbit

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Tatey throat grab, oh dear.


What a yob Tate is.
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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 15:54 - Sep 19 with 1252 viewsJohnw102

We all dream of a team of Alan Tates. 🤪

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:00 - Sep 19 with 1203 viewsDr_Parnassus

Missing a focal point of our attacks, it very much looks like a team making do with wingers and wide forwards. Not a bad half though.

The ref is annoying though, wants a chat after every decision.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:02 - Sep 19 with 1187 viewsWhiterockin

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Tatey throat grab, oh dear.


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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:07 - Sep 19 with 1145 viewsswan65split

what did the brum player say in his run up I wonder?

Stupid thing to do all said and done.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:18 - Sep 19 with 1088 viewsNotLoyal

Who is going to be happy with a point 👀

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:21 - Sep 19 with 1077 viewsJohnw102

Not seeing much of Keyroy Smith atm

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:25 - Sep 19 with 1047 viewsGeoffThom

It's like watching paint dry so far
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Cooper looking frustrated.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:27 - Sep 19 with 1037 viewsNotLoyal

Looking loads better now.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:28 - Sep 19 with 1034 viewsJohnw102

No way was the number 3 in control there not even a yellow.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:32 - Sep 19 with 996 viewsAndyCole

Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:21 - Sep 19 by Johnw102

Not seeing much of Keyroy Smith atm


Anonymous. Swap him for Fulton who links better with Ayew On 2nd phase.

Give Cullen an outing who can poach something

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:33 - Sep 19 with 993 viewsjasper_T

Bidwell's been 10/15 yards too high all game imo. Never in space as a passing option.
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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:36 - Sep 19 with 966 viewsJohnw102

Get Routs on to unlock their defence.

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Looking like Cullen will be on shortly.

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Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City on 16:38 - Sep 19 with 933 viewsjasper_T

Tired legs tired minds. Come on Mr Manager.
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