| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread 15:41 - Dec 24 with 26510 views | KeithHaynes |
Mr Johnson thanks people on all sides for "finding the philosophers stone" to get a deal.
He adds: "This deal above all means certainty, for the aviation industry, the hauliers... the police, the border forces, and all those that keep us safe.
"It means certainty for our scientists who will be able to work together on great collective projects.
"But above all it means certainty for business." |  |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 13:36 - Dec 28 with 1780 views | Highjack |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 12:14 - Dec 28 by felixstowe_jack |
All 27 EU ambassadors have voted to accept the deal, which means no country has vetoed it. Next step is for the EU parliament to vote on it in the new year, which of course is a formality. |
You’d think the Parliament would be the first to have to ratify it but there we go, over old ground again. |  |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 15:22 - Dec 28 with 1735 views | Highjack |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 12:34 - Dec 28 by onehunglow |
It would have been impossible IMO to have drawned up a bill to 100% atify both leaves and brexiteers EU and UK governments.
We are going to have to run with this and make the best of it all. |
This was May’s big problem and to an extent Corbyn, they were trying to appease the remainers as well as the leavers. Bojo is clearly a massive chancer and absolute mess of a man but he had the political bravery to take the massive risks he did and jump off that fence and it worked out well for him. A massive majority and a split, weak opposition. He’s virtually untouchable for as long as he wants to be. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 16:06 - Dec 28 with 1710 views | Whiterockin |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 15:22 - Dec 28 by Highjack |
This was May’s big problem and to an extent Corbyn, they were trying to appease the remainers as well as the leavers. Bojo is clearly a massive chancer and absolute mess of a man but he had the political bravery to take the massive risks he did and jump off that fence and it worked out well for him. A massive majority and a split, weak opposition. He’s virtually untouchable for as long as he wants to be. |
I would say he is untouchable until the next election, then without the Brexit platform and the covid debacle, the next election will be totally different. As for Labour they are doing what opposition are supposed to do, basically knock everything. Proof of the pudding here will be when they have to set out policies to win an election.
Senedd elections will be interesting as I don't think Labour will have a free run after Drakefords handling of the pandemic. Conservatives will have little chance. Plaid may pick up a few seats as the lesser of three evils.
As I have mentioned before I have no political allegiance, thats how I see it. |  | | |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 16:07 - Dec 28 with 1709 views | onehunglow |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 16:06 - Dec 28 by Whiterockin |
I would say he is untouchable until the next election, then without the Brexit platform and the covid debacle, the next election will be totally different. As for Labour they are doing what opposition are supposed to do, basically knock everything. Proof of the pudding here will be when they have to set out policies to win an election.
Senedd elections will be interesting as I don't think Labour will have a free run after Drakefords handling of the pandemic. Conservatives will have little chance. Plaid may pick up a few seats as the lesser of three evils.
As I have mentioned before I have no political allegiance, thats how I see it. |
Pretty good precis that of where I am. |  |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 16:26 - Dec 28 with 1690 views | Highjack |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 16:06 - Dec 28 by Whiterockin |
I would say he is untouchable until the next election, then without the Brexit platform and the covid debacle, the next election will be totally different. As for Labour they are doing what opposition are supposed to do, basically knock everything. Proof of the pudding here will be when they have to set out policies to win an election.
Senedd elections will be interesting as I don't think Labour will have a free run after Drakefords handling of the pandemic. Conservatives will have little chance. Plaid may pick up a few seats as the lesser of three evils.
As I have mentioned before I have no political allegiance, thats how I see it. |
Doubt Boris will bother with another election. He doesn’t seem to want to be in the job at the best of times. Give it a couple of years and he’ll sail off on his yacht with some lady who is a few years younger than Carrie whatsername. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 16:36 - Dec 28 with 1689 views | onehunglow |
Has he a yacht?
I doubt he needs one.
He could do what the socialist Blairs do and simply feed off a billionaire benefactor or businessman .
Cherie likes the little luxuries in life and her story is an object lesson is making ure one looks after oneself first and feck everybody else. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 16:39 - Dec 28 with 1689 views | majorraglan |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 16:06 - Dec 28 by Whiterockin |
I would say he is untouchable until the next election, then without the Brexit platform and the covid debacle, the next election will be totally different. As for Labour they are doing what opposition are supposed to do, basically knock everything. Proof of the pudding here will be when they have to set out policies to win an election.
Senedd elections will be interesting as I don't think Labour will have a free run after Drakefords handling of the pandemic. Conservatives will have little chance. Plaid may pick up a few seats as the lesser of three evils.
As I have mentioned before I have no political allegiance, thats how I see it. |
I think Boris is in a strong position, but a lot will depend on what happens post a Covid, whether we have an enquiry and what our economy actually looks like.
We have a Trade Deal which seems ok, ( unless you are a fisher person) but if companies don’t like it and it doesn’t deliver for manufacturing and services and there’s no coherent strategy to revitalise our economy, Boris could be under pressure.
In terms of Covid, if there are skeletons in the cupboard and if they are outed, he may struggle, especially as there will be other potential PM’s looking to make their mark.
In terms of the Senedd I think there’ll be a lot of mud throwing. UKIP and the Brexit Party in whatever guise they present themselves will be trashed, I don’t think there’s much shape on the Welsh Conservatives either, they’ve bumped their gums off and criticised Drakeford for taking various courses of action only to see Westminster emulate Drakers slightly later. Drakeford has got a few things wrong, I think he’s more sincere and cares more than a lot of politicians, but he doesn’t have the charisma and charm to lead. Last of all Plaid Cymru, I think Adam Price has something about him, but the Party generally don’t appeal to most.
Hopefully next election, people will actually make decisions based on how the policies will benefit Wales as opposed to following party dogma.
For starters I’d like to see one of the parties include
1) A solution to the M4 around Newport which will improve access to the West and increase prosperity,
2) A solution to the congestion on the M4 between Margam and Penllergaer,
3) And last but not least a reduction in the number of Local Authorities in Wales, 22 LA’s is ridiculous. I appreciate costs may be an issue with this but at least they can look at options for service sharing as a very minimum. [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 17:47]
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 17:54 - Dec 28 with 1654 views | Whiterockin |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 16:39 - Dec 28 by majorraglan |
I think Boris is in a strong position, but a lot will depend on what happens post a Covid, whether we have an enquiry and what our economy actually looks like.
We have a Trade Deal which seems ok, ( unless you are a fisher person) but if companies don’t like it and it doesn’t deliver for manufacturing and services and there’s no coherent strategy to revitalise our economy, Boris could be under pressure.
In terms of Covid, if there are skeletons in the cupboard and if they are outed, he may struggle, especially as there will be other potential PM’s looking to make their mark.
In terms of the Senedd I think there’ll be a lot of mud throwing. UKIP and the Brexit Party in whatever guise they present themselves will be trashed, I don’t think there’s much shape on the Welsh Conservatives either, they’ve bumped their gums off and criticised Drakeford for taking various courses of action only to see Westminster emulate Drakers slightly later. Drakeford has got a few things wrong, I think he’s more sincere and cares more than a lot of politicians, but he doesn’t have the charisma and charm to lead. Last of all Plaid Cymru, I think Adam Price has something about him, but the Party generally don’t appeal to most.
Hopefully next election, people will actually make decisions based on how the policies will benefit Wales as opposed to following party dogma.
For starters I’d like to see one of the parties include
1) A solution to the M4 around Newport which will improve access to the West and increase prosperity,
2) A solution to the congestion on the M4 between Margam and Penllergaer,
3) And last but not least a reduction in the number of Local Authorities in Wales, 22 LA’s is ridiculous. I appreciate costs may be an issue with this but at least they can look at options for service sharing as a very minimum. [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 17:47]
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There is a lot of time for a post covid bounce (if it happens) to affect the Westminster election, plus how brexit pans out.
Senedd elections will be different as they are in May. Drakeford needs some positive news quickly to hold on. | | | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 18:23 - Dec 28 with 1630 views | Flashberryjack |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 17:54 - Dec 28 by Whiterockin |
There is a lot of time for a post covid bounce (if it happens) to affect the Westminster election, plus how brexit pans out.
Senedd elections will be different as they are in May. Drakeford needs some positive news quickly to hold on. |
Drakeford and chums will be fine in the next senedd elections, with or without positive news, especially now that he's given the kids a vote, and not forgetting the welsh labour sheep voters. |  |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 20:09 - Dec 28 with 1597 views | pikeypaul |
Now BOJO has delivered Brexit he will walk before 2024 with huge credit and an enhanced reputation.
The multi million pound speaker circuit awaits, May the remoaner is pocketing £150,000 a shot and with BOJOs pull he will double anything she gets.
A lot will happen in the next 4 years and no one knows what will come and go by then however much we guess.
I am just waiting for Italy, Denmark Netherlands or whoever it will be next to pull the trigger on the EU and watching from the sidelines now we are off the pitch with the win and job complete.
But it’s still great to see the loser remoaners talk nonsense and state their opinions and guesses as facts, you only have to look at the way they all tried to make out they knew the details of the deal moments after it was announced to see how they are all full of BS and will make anything up since they still can’t accept the will of the 🇬🇧 people and democracy.Happy effing days.
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AFLI [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 20:34]
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 21:08 - Dec 28 with 1577 views | trampie |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 20:09 - Dec 28 by pikeypaul |
Now BOJO has delivered Brexit he will walk before 2024 with huge credit and an enhanced reputation.
The multi million pound speaker circuit awaits, May the remoaner is pocketing £150,000 a shot and with BOJOs pull he will double anything she gets.
A lot will happen in the next 4 years and no one knows what will come and go by then however much we guess.
I am just waiting for Italy, Denmark Netherlands or whoever it will be next to pull the trigger on the EU and watching from the sidelines now we are off the pitch with the win and job complete.
But it’s still great to see the loser remoaners talk nonsense and state their opinions and guesses as facts, you only have to look at the way they all tried to make out they knew the details of the deal moments after it was announced to see how they are all full of BS and will make anything up since they still can’t accept the will of the 🇬🇧 people and democracy.Happy effing days.
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AFLI [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 20:34]
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The will of the people was to Leave and not Leave with a deal. |  |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 21:55 - Dec 28 with 1554 views | Flashberryjack |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 21:08 - Dec 28 by trampie |
The will of the people was to Leave and not Leave with a deal. |
That's just not true. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 07:03 - Dec 29 with 1505 views | trampie |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 21:55 - Dec 28 by Flashberryjack |
That's just not true. |
Leave the European Union, was the winning selection on the ballot paper.
Leave the European Union with a deal was not on the ballot paper. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 10:00 - Dec 29 with 1465 views | Whiterockin |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 07:03 - Dec 29 by trampie |
Leave the European Union, was the winning selection on the ballot paper.
Leave the European Union with a deal was not on the ballot paper. |
Well I voted leave and would prefer the deal done than no deal. | | | |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 10:07 - Dec 29 with 1451 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 10:00 - Dec 29 by Whiterockin |
Well I voted leave and would prefer the deal done than no deal. |
I think everyone who voted to leave knew the UK would set up trade deals. So far we have trade deals with 62 countries. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 10:10 - Dec 29 with 1452 views | trampie |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 10:00 - Dec 29 by Whiterockin |
Well I voted leave and would prefer the deal done than no deal. |
What you voted for was not on the ballot paper.
I know loads of people that voted Leave and they voted for Leave the European Union, no if's and no buts, they wanted out and wanted us to have nothing to do with Johnny Foreigners. [Post edited 29 Dec 2020 10:11]
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 10:17 - Dec 29 with 1436 views | Whiterockin |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 10:10 - Dec 29 by trampie |
What you voted for was not on the ballot paper.
I know loads of people that voted Leave and they voted for Leave the European Union, no if's and no buts, they wanted out and wanted us to have nothing to do with Johnny Foreigners. [Post edited 29 Dec 2020 10:11]
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 10:28 - Dec 29 with 1427 views | onehunglow |
I voted to remain .
Im glad a deal is done.
Im not arsed who is right or wrong .
We should all feel that way instead of chucking insults at remainers or leavers .
Unite or die ffs | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:00 - Dec 29 with 1403 views | trampie |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 10:17 - Dec 29 by Whiterockin |
Rubbish. |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:05 - Dec 29 with 1400 views | Highjack |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:00 - Dec 29 by trampie |
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If there’s one thing we can all agree on over the events of the last few years is how many sad and tragic bastards there are on twitter on all sides of the argument. And there’s even sadder people who hang on their every word. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:12 - Dec 29 with 1392 views | onehunglow |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:05 - Dec 29 by Highjack |
If there’s one thing we can all agree on over the events of the last few years is how many sad and tragic bastards there are on twitter on all sides of the argument. And there’s even sadder people who hang on their every word. |
We can. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:14 - Dec 29 with 1389 views | trampie |
Racist, stupid, too old to have a stake in the future is how some people view Leave voters.
I personally won't say that but there you go. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:25 - Dec 29 with 1370 views | Highjack |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:14 - Dec 29 by trampie |
Racist, stupid, too old to have a stake in the future is how some people view Leave voters.
I personally won't say that but there you go. |
Older people have a lot of experience and many can remember what we were promised when we joined up in the first place, and having been there right through from the start of this journey are in a unique position to be able to make an informed decision as to whether those promises have been kept. | |
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| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:42 - Dec 29 with 1356 views | Whiterockin |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:00 - Dec 29 by trampie |
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No mention there of with or without a deal. | | | |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 11:47 - Dec 29 with 1354 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Swansea Independent BREXIT is done thread on 20:09 - Dec 28 by pikeypaul |
Now BOJO has delivered Brexit he will walk before 2024 with huge credit and an enhanced reputation.
The multi million pound speaker circuit awaits, May the remoaner is pocketing £150,000 a shot and with BOJOs pull he will double anything she gets.
A lot will happen in the next 4 years and no one knows what will come and go by then however much we guess.
I am just waiting for Italy, Denmark Netherlands or whoever it will be next to pull the trigger on the EU and watching from the sidelines now we are off the pitch with the win and job complete.
But it’s still great to see the loser remoaners talk nonsense and state their opinions and guesses as facts, you only have to look at the way they all tried to make out they knew the details of the deal moments after it was announced to see how they are all full of BS and will make anything up since they still can’t accept the will of the 🇬🇧 people and democracy.Happy effing days.
🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧
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AFLI [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 20:34]
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Credit ?
Reputation enhanced ?
70,000 people have died already.
His handling of the pandemic has been an absolute disaster.
He should be in jail.
Germany has had less than half the covid deaths.
He should have focused all his energy on covid, not Brexit.
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