| Georgia run off predictions 07:31 - Jan 4 with 7780 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Anyone?
I’m going with a double Democrat win sadly taking it to 50 seats each. I think Warnock beats Loeffler. Closer race in the regular one but Ossoff to pip Perdue.
Will give the tying decision to the VP which isn’t good news for the Republicans, or America in general if you ask me.
But there are a couple of floating congresspeople that cross party lines so who knows, hopefully they block any of the madder changes that come up and ditch party affiliation.
1 seat win out of the 2 should be enough for the Republicans though, which is most likely to come from Perdue if any. Interesting few days ahead. |  |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 21:32 - Jan 6 with 739 views | Gwyn737 |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:22 - Jan 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
The same kind of nonsense that Trump, police force and the Republicans are racists and fascists maybe? Peddled by the media and even Biden himself. Causing billions of dollars of damage, dozens of deaths and dozens of Government buildings seized and damaged?
These people support the Republicans because they know what the Dems currently stand for and what is likely to happen with them in power. Its a threat to their way of life.
This faux shock and outrage at the Capitol situation when we have had the last 12 months we have had is something I can't abide. If people are appalled now then those same people should have been outspokenly appalled for the last 12 months.
This is the political climate that has been allowed and encouraged for the past year. |
Faux shock and outrage? Come on!
The chamber at the centre of US politics has been stormed. Everyone should be outraged.
This will all play into Democrat hands in time. |  | | |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:33 - Jan 6 with 739 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Are there going to massive statewide protests after the Cops shot a young Black women in the Capitol Building?
I am sure that the police will ensure that they can find a gun she was carrying when they shot her in self defence. | | | |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:42 - Jan 6 with 710 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:32 - Jan 6 by Gwyn737 |
Faux shock and outrage? Come on!
The chamber at the centre of US politics has been stormed. Everyone should be outraged.
This will all play into Democrat hands in time. |
After what we have seen over the past 12 months, I honestly am dubious about anyone suddenly claiming to be shocked about a Government building being occupied or damaged.
We had a 6 block area of a City occupied by armed insurgents not so long ago including Government owned buildings. The Portland court was overtaken and set on fire.
Come on Gwyn. You know full well what has happened this past year. We have spoken about it. | |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 21:43 - Jan 6 with 709 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:33 - Jan 6 by A_Fans_Dad |
Are there going to massive statewide protests after the Cops shot a young Black women in the Capitol Building?
I am sure that the police will ensure that they can find a gun she was carrying when they shot her in self defence. |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 21:45 - Jan 6 with 706 views | Groo |
| Georgia run off predictions on 20:59 - Jan 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
I thought people intimidating politicians was fair game now? I hadn’t read a single dissenting voice on here regarding the Democrat supporters camping outside the houses of prominent politicians and screaming through loudspeakers for them to bow to their demands.
It’s amazing that in the lead up to trying to seize power the country has been under attack for probably the last 12 months. Billions of dollars of damage, countless people injured, courts and government buildings genuinely under attack, police stations burned to the ground and land occupied and seized by armed groups who actually have murdered people in the process... barely a whisper.
This is the danger when the media and Democrat supporters backs these actions for one side. The other side thinks they can do it too. With respect I don’t think I have seen you comment that any footage of the Dems doing this to a far worse degree is “harrowing”. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
As for my view. Damage and violence is never acceptable, people’s reactions born out of fear that doesn’t involve those things can’t be judged. You would have to be in their position to make a judgement, something I hope you and I are never in. |
I hadn’t read a single dissenting voice on here regarding the Democrat supporters camping outside the houses of prominent politicians and screaming through loudspeakers for them to bow to their demands.
I believe this is wrong, protest outside offices where decisions are made not at people's homes.
I was goinf to say you missed my comment against it, then second thoughts it may have been on another forum.
Project fear to me appears to be the Republicans doing. |  |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 21:48 - Jan 6 with 695 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:45 - Jan 6 by Groo |
I hadn’t read a single dissenting voice on here regarding the Democrat supporters camping outside the houses of prominent politicians and screaming through loudspeakers for them to bow to their demands.
I believe this is wrong, protest outside offices where decisions are made not at people's homes.
I was goinf to say you missed my comment against it, then second thoughts it may have been on another forum.
Project fear to me appears to be the Republicans doing. |
12 months of Democrat fear and nobody bothered, 12 minutes of Republicans doing similar (not nearly anywhere close to as bad) and everyone goes into meltdown.
The dangers of a partisan media. Something I warned about months ago. | |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 21:51 - Jan 6 with 689 views | Gwyn737 |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:42 - Jan 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
After what we have seen over the past 12 months, I honestly am dubious about anyone suddenly claiming to be shocked about a Government building being occupied or damaged.
We had a 6 block area of a City occupied by armed insurgents not so long ago including Government owned buildings. The Portland court was overtaken and set on fire.
Come on Gwyn. You know full well what has happened this past year. We have spoken about it. |
This isn’t a government building, it THE government building.
It like comparing the House of Commons with Kettering county council.
I’m not for one minute condoning any of the violence, but this is a bigger story. Heads of state around the world are starting to condemn Trump.
As for Biden, for a man who some claim to be senile he made one hell of a statement. Republicans are split, Romney shouting accords the chamber at Cruz. This is immensely damaging for Republicans- I can see a party split. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 21:52]
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| Georgia run off predictions on 21:54 - Jan 6 with 680 views | majorraglan |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:15 - Jan 6 by Gwyn737 |
Violence is never acceptable.
I’m not sure from the footage that those protesting are there due to tax and petrol hikes.
More like they’ve been told repeatedly that they’ve been cheated out of an election and are reacting to the rhetoric- Cruz didn’t help earlier.
This time they’re threatening those in their own party. I’ve got sympathy for Pence who was put in an awful position. |
I agree re violence, but Trump has been pushing towards this for weeks.
Trump and his supporters have failed to come up with any evidence of large scale fraud, case after case has been thrown out and McConnell made scathing criticisms earlier today. The likes of Cruz are in it for their own ends too.
Eric Trump was making what I would perceive to be threatening comments towards Republicans who failed to support his father earlier today.
I also have sympathy for Pence, he’s been put in a terrible position by a Trump but he has to do his constitutional duty. For what it’s worth I think Pence has made the right call, Trump should cop a lot of flack over this and will probably have displeased quite a few people on all sides of political divide establishment and if the investigations start coming he’ll be on his own. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cruz et al will be having a talking to! | | | |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 21:57 - Jan 6 with 664 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:51 - Jan 6 by Gwyn737 |
This isn’t a government building, it THE government building.
It like comparing the House of Commons with Kettering county council.
I’m not for one minute condoning any of the violence, but this is a bigger story. Heads of state around the world are starting to condemn Trump.
As for Biden, for a man who some claim to be senile he made one hell of a statement. Republicans are split, Romney shouting accords the chamber at Cruz. This is immensely damaging for Republicans- I can see a party split. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 21:52]
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So it's worse because you rank things in order of importance of building as opposed to action?
Sorry, I am just not buying it. You have said nothing about the chaos in America at the hands of the Dems this last 12 months. If you were outraged then, I could fully understand you being so now.
But as it stands, it seems a little disingenuous. I am sure you can see where I'm coming from. | |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 21:59 - Jan 6 with 658 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:54 - Jan 6 by majorraglan |
I agree re violence, but Trump has been pushing towards this for weeks.
Trump and his supporters have failed to come up with any evidence of large scale fraud, case after case has been thrown out and McConnell made scathing criticisms earlier today. The likes of Cruz are in it for their own ends too.
Eric Trump was making what I would perceive to be threatening comments towards Republicans who failed to support his father earlier today.
I also have sympathy for Pence, he’s been put in a terrible position by a Trump but he has to do his constitutional duty. For what it’s worth I think Pence has made the right call, Trump should cop a lot of flack over this and will probably have displeased quite a few people on all sides of political divide establishment and if the investigations start coming he’ll be on his own. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cruz et al will be having a talking to! |
Trump or his supporters didn't have the remit to come up with evidence. Only to lobby for the correct investigations.
It's all very tiresome. Anything wrong that happens, blame Trump. Anything he or anyone connected with him says, twist it to sound threatening. Anything the Dems say (like preparing lists of those who have opposed them) ignored or made less shocking.
This is politics in 2020, or now sadly 2021 too. | |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:08 - Jan 6 with 647 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:45 - Jan 6 by Groo |
I hadn’t read a single dissenting voice on here regarding the Democrat supporters camping outside the houses of prominent politicians and screaming through loudspeakers for them to bow to their demands.
I believe this is wrong, protest outside offices where decisions are made not at people's homes.
I was goinf to say you missed my comment against it, then second thoughts it may have been on another forum.
Project fear to me appears to be the Republicans doing. |
"Project fear to me appears to be the Republicans doing. "
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:12 - Jan 6 with 640 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:54 - Jan 6 by majorraglan |
I agree re violence, but Trump has been pushing towards this for weeks.
Trump and his supporters have failed to come up with any evidence of large scale fraud, case after case has been thrown out and McConnell made scathing criticisms earlier today. The likes of Cruz are in it for their own ends too.
Eric Trump was making what I would perceive to be threatening comments towards Republicans who failed to support his father earlier today.
I also have sympathy for Pence, he’s been put in a terrible position by a Trump but he has to do his constitutional duty. For what it’s worth I think Pence has made the right call, Trump should cop a lot of flack over this and will probably have displeased quite a few people on all sides of political divide establishment and if the investigations start coming he’ll be on his own. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cruz et al will be having a talking to! |
Is that the reason that the police attacked completely peaceful Trump Supporters with Teargas, pepperspray and battons?
Is that the reason they shot dead a young black women
Pence's constitutional duty was to question Illegal elections, not accept them. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 22:14]
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:17 - Jan 6 with 629 views | Gwyn737 |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:57 - Jan 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
So it's worse because you rank things in order of importance of building as opposed to action?
Sorry, I am just not buying it. You have said nothing about the chaos in America at the hands of the Dems this last 12 months. If you were outraged then, I could fully understand you being so now.
But as it stands, it seems a little disingenuous. I am sure you can see where I'm coming from. |
I can’t say I’ve commented on every story but this is massive. Part of the reason of it being massive is where it happened.
Violence by BLM etc. is rightly attributed to organised agitators. Here, the agitator is the POTUS and his aids.
He’s blown it this time, condemned by his own party and around the world. You can’t govern spouting emotive rhetoric and divisiveness in the way he has. It will work for a while but is not sustainable.
He’ll go down in history as a one term president whose term ended in messy and unnecessary way. | | | |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:20 - Jan 6 with 627 views | Gwyn737 |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:12 - Jan 6 by A_Fans_Dad |
Is that the reason that the police attacked completely peaceful Trump Supporters with Teargas, pepperspray and battons?
Is that the reason they shot dead a young black women
Pence's constitutional duty was to question Illegal elections, not accept them. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 22:14]
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Peaceful trump supporters?
Did they peacefully break into the building by smashing the windows and storming the chamber? | | | |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:20 - Jan 6 with 624 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:17 - Jan 6 by Gwyn737 |
I can’t say I’ve commented on every story but this is massive. Part of the reason of it being massive is where it happened.
Violence by BLM etc. is rightly attributed to organised agitators. Here, the agitator is the POTUS and his aids.
He’s blown it this time, condemned by his own party and around the world. You can’t govern spouting emotive rhetoric and divisiveness in the way he has. It will work for a while but is not sustainable.
He’ll go down in history as a one term president whose term ended in messy and unnecessary way. |
Not ''every'' story, any story. Show me a comment of yours on the 130 page thread you were heavily involved in where these things were being discussed where you said what the Dems were doing was unacceptable, harrowing and a situation the world should be outraged at and I will eat my hat.
Trump is just as much an agitator of today as Biden and Harris have been for the violence for the last 12 months, in fact to a much less extent because at no point has he ever condoned these actions, where as Kamala Harris urged people to continue and also to donate to various funds to bail out these criminals.
That was mentioned on that thread too. | |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:21 - Jan 6 with 619 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:20 - Jan 6 by Gwyn737 |
Peaceful trump supporters?
Did they peacefully break into the building by smashing the windows and storming the chamber? |
I believe peaceful is the term that has been used for the last 12 months for similar, if not much worse actions. Hasn't it?
Fiery but peaceful protest was the famous line as the City burned in the background. Did you speak up about that description back then?
I am all for people calling out disorderly behavior, but cannot tolerate 'principles by design'. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 22:23]
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:23 - Jan 6 with 615 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Georgia run off predictions on 21:57 - Jan 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
So it's worse because you rank things in order of importance of building as opposed to action?
Sorry, I am just not buying it. You have said nothing about the chaos in America at the hands of the Dems this last 12 months. If you were outraged then, I could fully understand you being so now.
But as it stands, it seems a little disingenuous. I am sure you can see where I'm coming from. |
This. Is. Fascism.
We should all call for the jailing of Trump. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 22:25]
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:26 - Jan 6 with 610 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:23 - Jan 6 by Kilkennyjack |
This. Is. Fascism.
We should all call for the jailing of Trump. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 22:25]
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So now this is fascism?
Dems do it - virtuous and brave.
Republicans do it to a much lesser degree - unacceptable fascism.
See how this works? | |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:29 - Jan 6 with 602 views | Gwyn737 |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:20 - Jan 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
Not ''every'' story, any story. Show me a comment of yours on the 130 page thread you were heavily involved in where these things were being discussed where you said what the Dems were doing was unacceptable, harrowing and a situation the world should be outraged at and I will eat my hat.
Trump is just as much an agitator of today as Biden and Harris have been for the violence for the last 12 months, in fact to a much less extent because at no point has he ever condoned these actions, where as Kamala Harris urged people to continue and also to donate to various funds to bail out these criminals.
That was mentioned on that thread too. |
I don’t associate BLM completely with the Democrats. Reasons for some of the (abhorrent) behaviour are more difficult IMO to discuss on a forum - I tend not to write long posts. I’ve condemned that behaviour when asked, no need for any more whatabouterry.
Even while protesters were inside the Capitol building, Trump started his statement with ‘we won by a landslide’. Much easier to point to a causal link, isn’t it?
This has been coming. Even Ben Shapiro graded him as a C grade president- he may need to drop trump even further after the way he has incited scenes. I accept that people are worried but Trump poured petrol on it. | | | |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:30 - Jan 6 with 596 views | Gwyn737 |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:21 - Jan 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
I believe peaceful is the term that has been used for the last 12 months for similar, if not much worse actions. Hasn't it?
Fiery but peaceful protest was the famous line as the City burned in the background. Did you speak up about that description back then?
I am all for people calling out disorderly behavior, but cannot tolerate 'principles by design'. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 22:23]
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I haven’t said the example you have given were peaceful.
Are the current protest peaceful? [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 22:31]
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:31 - Jan 6 with 593 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:29 - Jan 6 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t associate BLM completely with the Democrats. Reasons for some of the (abhorrent) behaviour are more difficult IMO to discuss on a forum - I tend not to write long posts. I’ve condemned that behaviour when asked, no need for any more whatabouterry.
Even while protesters were inside the Capitol building, Trump started his statement with ‘we won by a landslide’. Much easier to point to a causal link, isn’t it?
This has been coming. Even Ben Shapiro graded him as a C grade president- he may need to drop trump even further after the way he has incited scenes. I accept that people are worried but Trump poured petrol on it. |
You mean the Antifa who website directs you to the Biden and Harris campaign page?
You don't seem to have had any issue condemning these actions immediately without anyone asking you. Strange you found it difficult before.
Sorry but your stance isn't stacking up. Seems highly disingenuous. | |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:32 - Jan 6 with 589 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:30 - Jan 6 by Gwyn737 |
I haven’t said the example you have given were peaceful.
Are the current protest peaceful? [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 22:31]
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No protest where the law is being broken is peaceful.
But I just find it odd you only seem to have taken objection to this the day the Republicans have done it, yet ignored 12 months solid of Democrat terror. | |
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:34 - Jan 6 with 584 views | Treforys_Jack |
Unbelievable Dr P, you are losing every shred of credibility here, and you can't even see it.
Do you condemn the storming of the Capitol building ? Simple yes or no will do. |  | | |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:36 - Jan 6 with 580 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:34 - Jan 6 by Treforys_Jack |
Unbelievable Dr P, you are losing every shred of credibility here, and you can't even see it.
Do you condemn the storming of the Capitol building ? Simple yes or no will do. |
How am I losing credibility? By pointing out the sheer astounding hypocrisy?
I condemn any law breaking. Hence I have been condemning it for the last 12 months.
Have you?
A simple yes or no will do. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 22:36]
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| Georgia run off predictions on 22:37 - Jan 6 with 578 views | Gwyn737 |
| Georgia run off predictions on 22:31 - Jan 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
You mean the Antifa who website directs you to the Biden and Harris campaign page?
You don't seem to have had any issue condemning these actions immediately without anyone asking you. Strange you found it difficult before.
Sorry but your stance isn't stacking up. Seems highly disingenuous. |
That’s antifa driven isn’t it? Would be different if Biden/Harris website collected for them.
You’re constantly deflecting now - it’s not like you.
You keep going on about things I haven’t said. We could be here for a long time discussing things I haven’t said. It’s the weakness of an Internet forum. You can either accept that I don’t condone previous behaviour or you can continue to use it a tool to deflect from the unprecedented goings on as we speak.
Anyway, done for tonight. We’ll see how it pans out overnight. | | | |
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