| Mr Drakeford 21:39 - May 7 with 97406 views | builthjack |
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Mr Drakeford on 10:07 - Jul 14 with 1790 views | onehunglow |
You see,this subject cannot be debated although it clearly shows a chasm of culture in a small island. Anyone can post any apochraphal garbage they like.
20 per cent holding sway because they can |  |
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| Mr Drakeford on 10:10 - Jul 14 with 1792 views | Catullus |
| Mr Drakeford on 09:59 - Jul 14 by Professor |
Ethiopia has five official languages and as many as 80 spoken in total. Also Gueze which is used by the Orthodox Church like Latin by Roman Catholics. |
Only 5? On my travels acorss England with the Swans theoppo has all spoken English but I've still needed translators. English in the South West is very different to "oop North"
Do these countries with different languages have the arguments we do in the UK? India would be in perpetual civil war, 22 states all demanding they only speak one language, their language, whatever it is! | |
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| Mr Drakeford on 20:52 - Jul 14 with 1703 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Mr Drakeford on 09:53 - Jul 14 by Catullus |
Not to defend it but it shouldn't take 6 months to learn what they are saying you'll have to learn.
I didn't do Welsh in school, at all. I was in a higher stream and had to do Latin but my gran was a fluent Welsh speaker and though I have hardly ever used it I have the entry level skill they want. Bore Da, Prynhawn Da, Diolch, Diolch yn fawr, Croeso, Nos da and surely we nearly all know Shw mae, Dai iawn/Dai iawn diolch too?
My real issue is, we have interpreters for minority languages, if people want to communicate in Welsh we should just be able to request it. Why have every letter bilingually, why should phone messages take 3 times as long, why do we have to listen to everything in Englsih AND Welsh. My GP surgery has it right, the first message is simple, to speak in Welsh press 1, in English press 2. That is all we need and then the Senedd can have Welsh speakers purely in psts where they are essential. They can then offer Welsh tuition to any who want it, without it being compulsory.
I said it earlier, the more young welsh that move away and the more retirees from England or elsewhere that move here, the more this language policy will be a waste of time. They need to get the economy sorted first so our young people don't abandon Wales. |
Dai is a name.
Like David.
‘Da iawn’ is very good.
I quit.
If you were in a higher stream then what were the others like…?
Must have been like fecking Bristol Zoo.
Most things on-line now, so don't worry too much about extra printing costs.
Most counties operate with more than one language very successfully. Just saying. |  |
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| Mr Drakeford on 22:43 - Jul 14 with 1673 views | builthjack |
Drakers trying to keep us safe. Johnson trying to kill a few more. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Mr Drakeford on 23:59 - Jul 14 with 1653 views | Jack123 |
I notice drakeford is going different to what England are doing about wearing masks in shops, well he can just f off I'm done wearing mine. |  |
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| Mr Drakeford on 09:41 - Jul 15 with 1588 views | Catullus |
| Mr Drakeford on 23:59 - Jul 14 by Jack123 |
I notice drakeford is going different to what England are doing about wearing masks in shops, well he can just f off I'm done wearing mine. |
This is where I nearly entirely agree with Drakeford. We need to open up, we need to start getting back towards normal but there's no need to rush. Better to mkae gradual changes and see how we progress.
Bojo made a right mess of a lot of it, except the vaccines, Drakeford was too slow in areas also, he kept waiting to see what Bojo did. In particular to me, when he had written to Bojo and ended up asking 3 times about the border issue when he should have shown some balls and just done it, border closed as a public health precaution. He should also have closed down Cardiff airport, stopped international trave to and from Wales.
Hasn't history shown that people don't like a wishy washy leader, they want strength, they want a decisive leader. Just look at Johnson, despite all his cock ups, at the end of May 37% still would choose him ahead of Starmer with 25% backing Starmer over Bojo. Bojo is an utter clown but Starmer, coming across as wishy washy like Drakeford, isn't increasing his support as much as he should. Are Labour a spent force unless they make major changes? Starmer has been quite poor in that regard, If Bojo can be such a clown but still be more popular, what does that say? | |
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| Mr Drakeford on 17:30 - Jul 15 with 1524 views | Scotia |
| Mr Drakeford on 23:59 - Jul 14 by Jack123 |
I notice drakeford is going different to what England are doing about wearing masks in shops, well he can just f off I'm done wearing mine. |
Why?
I don't get the mask wearing problem. It's a small price to pay for more freedom. | | | |
| Mr Drakeford on 17:41 - Jul 15 with 1516 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Mr Drakeford on 17:30 - Jul 15 by Scotia |
Why?
I don't get the mask wearing problem. It's a small price to pay for more freedom. |
What freedoms do you enjoy through wearing masks that you otherwise would not be able to enjoy without wearing a mask from this Summer onward? |  |
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| Mr Drakeford on 17:48 - Jul 15 with 1512 views | onehunglow |
| Mr Drakeford on 17:30 - Jul 15 by Scotia |
Why?
I don't get the mask wearing problem. It's a small price to pay for more freedom. |
We are free,if we allow ourselves to be.
Wearing a mask is not a freedom killer. | |
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| Mr Drakeford on 17:52 - Jul 15 with 1514 views | Scotia |
| Mr Drakeford on 17:41 - Jul 15 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
What freedoms do you enjoy through wearing masks that you otherwise would not be able to enjoy without wearing a mask from this Summer onward? |
They play a role in reducing the likely hood of spreading covid. They could save lives.
Wearing them in some situations could mean we maintain freedoms for longer than not wearing them.
They also save me from a lot of unwanted female attention.
I genuinely don't see the problem with wearing them at all. | | | |
| Mr Drakeford on 18:01 - Jul 15 with 1510 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Mr Drakeford on 17:52 - Jul 15 by Scotia |
They play a role in reducing the likely hood of spreading covid. They could save lives.
Wearing them in some situations could mean we maintain freedoms for longer than not wearing them.
They also save me from a lot of unwanted female attention.
I genuinely don't see the problem with wearing them at all. |
"They play a role in reducing the likely hood of spreading covid. They could save lives."
I agree. However, the same could be said for the flu. Wearing a mask has played a role in reducing the likelihood of spreading flu and has saved lives that otherwise would have been lost to flu.
Yet, prior to Covid-19, we lived with flu and accepted its risk of causing serious ill-health and even death to the most vulnerable in our society.
Do you advocate we wear masks until Covid is entirely eradicated, or until a certain percentage of the country is fully vaccinated, or until another target is achieved? Or, perhaps, do you advocate we wear masks indefinitely going forward?
Personally, I would like to see mask wearing continue until everybody who wants to be vaccinated is fully vaccinated. However, I then see little point in continuing, unless of course you wish to see it remain indefinitely. After all, completely eradicating the world of Covid-19 is extremely unlikely. | |
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| Mr Drakeford on 18:05 - Jul 15 with 1507 views | Scotia |
| Mr Drakeford on 18:01 - Jul 15 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
"They play a role in reducing the likely hood of spreading covid. They could save lives."
I agree. However, the same could be said for the flu. Wearing a mask has played a role in reducing the likelihood of spreading flu and has saved lives that otherwise would have been lost to flu.
Yet, prior to Covid-19, we lived with flu and accepted its risk of causing serious ill-health and even death to the most vulnerable in our society.
Do you advocate we wear masks until Covid is entirely eradicated, or until a certain percentage of the country is fully vaccinated, or until another target is achieved? Or, perhaps, do you advocate we wear masks indefinitely going forward?
Personally, I would like to see mask wearing continue until everybody who wants to be vaccinated is fully vaccinated. However, I then see little point in continuing, unless of course you wish to see it remain indefinitely. After all, completely eradicating the world of Covid-19 is extremely unlikely. |
Covid isn't flu.
I'd say wear masks in some situations until we can reduce hospitalisation and deaths from covid to a comparable level to flu, consistently.
I really don't see the problem with it. | | | |
| Mr Drakeford on 18:26 - Jul 15 with 1493 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Mr Drakeford on 18:05 - Jul 15 by Scotia |
Covid isn't flu.
I'd say wear masks in some situations until we can reduce hospitalisation and deaths from covid to a comparable level to flu, consistently.
I really don't see the problem with it. |
Deaths involving and due to Influenza and Pneumonia, England and Wales:
29,516 in 2018 (80/day)
26,398 in 2019 (72/day)
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus
Deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid 19 test by date of death in the UK have been consistently below those flu figures from 2018 and 2019 since late March.
How many months of being consistently under or at a comparable level to flu until it meets your desired consistency? Without a specific target or defined parameters, your answer essentially means you want mask wearing to remain indefinitely. Which I do understand. However, I do not consider it to be enforceable. | |
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| Mr Drakeford on 18:37 - Jul 15 with 1487 views | onehunglow |
| Mr Drakeford on 18:01 - Jul 15 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
"They play a role in reducing the likely hood of spreading covid. They could save lives."
I agree. However, the same could be said for the flu. Wearing a mask has played a role in reducing the likelihood of spreading flu and has saved lives that otherwise would have been lost to flu.
Yet, prior to Covid-19, we lived with flu and accepted its risk of causing serious ill-health and even death to the most vulnerable in our society.
Do you advocate we wear masks until Covid is entirely eradicated, or until a certain percentage of the country is fully vaccinated, or until another target is achieved? Or, perhaps, do you advocate we wear masks indefinitely going forward?
Personally, I would like to see mask wearing continue until everybody who wants to be vaccinated is fully vaccinated. However, I then see little point in continuing, unless of course you wish to see it remain indefinitely. After all, completely eradicating the world of Covid-19 is extremely unlikely. |
Tell you what I advocate.
Not getting rid of legal requirements when cases are zooming as they are.
It is nuts and flies in the face of all the restrictions that most of us have put up with.
Things are never going to be the same | |
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| Mr Drakeford on 19:22 - Jul 15 with 1473 views | Jack123 |
| Mr Drakeford on 17:30 - Jul 15 by Scotia |
Why?
I don't get the mask wearing problem. It's a small price to pay for more freedom. |
Had one of those days, took some of the family out, trudging around in shops couldn't breathe very easily, although part of the blame lies on shops, sure some had the heaters on.. | |
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| Mr Drakeford on 21:25 - Jul 15 with 1445 views | Scotia |
| Mr Drakeford on 18:26 - Jul 15 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Deaths involving and due to Influenza and Pneumonia, England and Wales:
29,516 in 2018 (80/day)
26,398 in 2019 (72/day)
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus
Deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid 19 test by date of death in the UK have been consistently below those flu figures from 2018 and 2019 since late March.
How many months of being consistently under or at a comparable level to flu until it meets your desired consistency? Without a specific target or defined parameters, your answer essentially means you want mask wearing to remain indefinitely. Which I do understand. However, I do not consider it to be enforceable. |
I don't see the relevance of deaths being below usual flu levels since March?
That is after a sustained period of lockdown and continued restrictions. The total deaths are approaching 150k in little more than a year, that is before you consider hospitalisation. Covid is not the flu.
If over a period of a comparable year we have a similar total number of deaths and hospitalisation as flu then I don't think we can do much more.
Until that point I don't see the big deal in wearing a mask, if that is indefinitely then I'm cool with that, I'm yet to hear a rational argument for not wearing one. | | | |
| Mr Drakeford on 21:27 - Jul 15 with 1443 views | Scotia |
| Mr Drakeford on 19:22 - Jul 15 by Jack123 |
Had one of those days, took some of the family out, trudging around in shops couldn't breathe very easily, although part of the blame lies on shops, sure some had the heaters on.. |
I'll be honest I was on the train for an hour and a half today. It wasn't pleasant in this weather.
Needs must though. | | | |
| Mr Drakeford on 21:32 - Jul 15 with 1438 views | Dr_Winston |
| Mr Drakeford on 18:37 - Jul 15 by onehunglow |
Tell you what I advocate.
Not getting rid of legal requirements when cases are zooming as they are.
It is nuts and flies in the face of all the restrictions that most of us have put up with.
Things are never going to be the same |
Cases are zooming. Hospitalisations and fatalities are not. Cases can zoom as much as they want as long as the latter remains the case. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Mr Drakeford on 21:40 - Jul 15 with 1422 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
MD earns £148K a year........ |  |
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| Mr Drakeford on 03:10 - Jul 16 with 1363 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Mr Drakeford on 23:59 - Jul 14 by Jack123 |
I notice drakeford is going different to what England are doing about wearing masks in shops, well he can just f off I'm done wearing mine. |
Handbag. | |
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| Mr Drakeford on 03:17 - Jul 16 with 1359 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Mr Drakeford on 21:40 - Jul 15 by JACKMANANDBOY |
MD earns £148K a year........ |
Johnson earns £161,000 as PM.
Johnson worked for 10 hours a month for the Guardian and earned £275,000.
I think your point is that Drakers and Johnson are underpaid, and its a good point you make. | |
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| Mr Drakeford on 06:52 - Jul 16 with 1344 views | Dr_Winston |
Jamaica has a population roughly the same as Wales. Their Prime Minister earns a third of Drakeford's salary, and he's in charge of an actual proper independent country.
That would suggest that Grampy Wales is in fact vastly overpaid. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Mr Drakeford on 09:33 - Jul 16 with 1308 views | johnlangy |
| Mr Drakeford on 06:52 - Jul 16 by Dr_Winston |
Jamaica has a population roughly the same as Wales. Their Prime Minister earns a third of Drakeford's salary, and he's in charge of an actual proper independent country.
That would suggest that Grampy Wales is in fact vastly overpaid. |
Average gross salary, £1500.
Hardly comparable is it ? | | | |
| Mr Drakeford on 09:42 - Jul 16 with 1302 views | controversial_jack |
| Mr Drakeford on 21:32 - Jul 15 by Dr_Winston |
Cases are zooming. Hospitalisations and fatalities are not. Cases can zoom as much as they want as long as the latter remains the case. |
If cases zoom , more ppl will have to isolate and some will get sick and die. It's already happening, patients are being admitted to Morriston. also overseas travel will be a no no | | | |
| Mr Drakeford on 10:06 - Jul 16 with 1293 views | Boundy |
| Mr Drakeford on 09:33 - Jul 16 by johnlangy |
Average gross salary, £1500.
Hardly comparable is it ? |
Responsibilities would remain the same though | |
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