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You claimed that they lost the case which was a blatant lie, Flynn was guilty and Trump pardoned him.
Then you tried to say Flynnwas persuaded by a poor legal tram to plead guilty. From a more realistic perspective a very good legal team pointed out if he pled innocent the punishment could be a lot worse AND just maybe Trump had already told him he'd pardon him.
You need to get a grip, you and reality have become strangers. Remember this in the future, Trump lost the election , it's done and dusted and the result will never be overturned because it was fair and legal. No amount of loony posturing from Trump supporters will change that.
I see, so you prefer to believe the msm that the defence and the DOJ were lying about having the evidence that cleared him of any wrong doing and showed that the FBI lied. OK.
Yes I have, but no where near as many time or as badly as they called me names, I have to confess to frustration when I present clear data and people ignore it without being able to dispute it.
Yes I have, but no where near as many time or as badly as they called me names, I have to confess to frustration when I present clear data and people ignore it without being able to dispute it.
You never use it in context and much of it is dubious. This has been shown over and over.
You never use it in context and much of it is dubious. This has been shown over and over.
Prof, he cites numerous dodgy sources and criticiss us when we call those sources out, then he says our "MSM" sources are all lies. He denies things that aren't just in the "MSM" there are things I watched live on tv, I watched Trump incite his followers to march on Capitol hill. I watched the riot itslef and saw nothing like he says happened but he knows it happens because people like him in the USA tell him so.
It's typical of the modern way, deny anything you don't agree with and double down on your argument. I'd rather believe the BBC than a pro Trump website. The brexit thing, the "I'm right and you are wrong" thing happens in every debate now. It is so blooming tedious. Evidence is called lies and lies are called evidence. I've had enough of it. There is some joy in ignorance!
Prof, he cites numerous dodgy sources and criticiss us when we call those sources out, then he says our "MSM" sources are all lies. He denies things that aren't just in the "MSM" there are things I watched live on tv, I watched Trump incite his followers to march on Capitol hill. I watched the riot itslef and saw nothing like he says happened but he knows it happens because people like him in the USA tell him so.
It's typical of the modern way, deny anything you don't agree with and double down on your argument. I'd rather believe the BBC than a pro Trump website. The brexit thing, the "I'm right and you are wrong" thing happens in every debate now. It is so blooming tedious. Evidence is called lies and lies are called evidence. I've had enough of it. There is some joy in ignorance!
I’ve really enjoyed AFD’s mixed message this week where he’s been very vocal on not attacking the source of information whilst simultaneously dismissing the mainstream media.
NO, I suggested that it could well be a Russian campaign (I still think if they werent those that executed it they certainly aided the plan).
Putin is well known for messing with all sides to keep everyone one of balance .
Finally, as ever, you either missed the point or are making mischief as my answer was -
"I'll put aside your whataboutery and I'll forget that Trump selected his unqualified and UNVETTED kids to serve in government and I'll answer...
I shouldn't do this as they say that "when you argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level and then beat you with their experience"
but here we go - he had a BA in History from Georgetown and a Law degree from Yale. In othere words he was even more qualified than many that sit on company boards worldwide."
The Putin thing was a cherry on top.
Last time we talked about my sources I demonstrated that mine were spread from a broad spectrum but you keep twisting the history to support your rubbish - i.e. unfounded attacks against me to undermine facts I present and these , in this case, were that Hunter has a BA in history and a law degree (from Yale) and is more qualified than many who sit on the boards of large companies.
You carry on with your trolling.
You have no idea what you are suggesting, you have very little knowledge on the subject of politics at all.
You simply cannot claim the Hunter Biden thing was a Russian led hoax (which you vehemently did) and then later use Putin's quote as a source.
I understand that is an uncomfortable position you put yourself in, but you simply cannot expect not to be pulled up on such nonsense.
As for sitting on the board of an oil company, since when was that a career path for someone with a degree in History? Stop being silly now DJack, we had enough of this rubbish last year.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
You have no idea what you are suggesting, you have very little knowledge on the subject of politics at all.
You simply cannot claim the Hunter Biden thing was a Russian led hoax (which you vehemently did) and then later use Putin's quote as a source.
I understand that is an uncomfortable position you put yourself in, but you simply cannot expect not to be pulled up on such nonsense.
As for sitting on the board of an oil company, since when was that a career path for someone with a degree in History? Stop being silly now DJack, we had enough of this rubbish last year.
Firstly it's History AND law degrees. Secondly as I said earlier the Putin quote was an extra ( a little bit tongue in cheek) and I pointed out that when Trump was the President his kids were appointed WITHOUT passing vetting into roles at the heart of government. So the OP's post was laughable with the context of his views.
As for rubbish your very existence under various guises on these boards has seen you post a constant stream of rubbish which was ONE of the many reasons you were banned.
Bore off you troll.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
Firstly it's History AND law degrees. Secondly as I said earlier the Putin quote was an extra ( a little bit tongue in cheek) and I pointed out that when Trump was the President his kids were appointed WITHOUT passing vetting into roles at the heart of government. So the OP's post was laughable with the context of his views.
As for rubbish your very existence under various guises on these boards has seen you post a constant stream of rubbish which was ONE of the many reasons you were banned.
Bore off you troll.
The same applies. Neither mean you are qualified for a position on the board of an oil company, especially when his roles have absolutely nothing to do with history or law.
Don’t be so silly, you confused yourself. You can’t keep track of what you are saying because it’s based on nothing other than wanting to appear on a certain side, even though you have absolutely no idea what that side stands for or even what it is.
There is never a “guise” you plum. They are usernames. Phil used to ban me because I used to correctly call him out on Trust matters, which shock horror turned out I was right about. That was the one and only reason, a ridiculous reason at that.
Dry your eyes petal, if you don’t like home truths then don’t seek out my attention and stop talking about things you have absolutely no idea about.
Thanks.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
The same applies. Neither mean you are qualified for a position on the board of an oil company, especially when his roles have absolutely nothing to do with history or law.
Don’t be so silly, you confused yourself. You can’t keep track of what you are saying because it’s based on nothing other than wanting to appear on a certain side, even though you have absolutely no idea what that side stands for or even what it is.
There is never a “guise” you plum. They are usernames. Phil used to ban me because I used to correctly call him out on Trust matters, which shock horror turned out I was right about. That was the one and only reason, a ridiculous reason at that.
Dry your eyes petal, if you don’t like home truths then don’t seek out my attention and stop talking about things you have absolutely no idea about.
Thanks.
The degree is a gateway, if you have the right qualities and experience you can be a director with any degree. I know someone who holds an extremely position high position in a multinational financial institution with a degree in history. Matt Hancock has a degree in economics, did that qualify him for the role of a Health Secretary and Michael Gove a degree in journalism?
The degree is a gateway, if you have the right qualities and experience you can be a director with any degree. I know someone who holds an extremely position high position in a multinational financial institution with a degree in history. Matt Hancock has a degree in economics, did that qualify him for the role of a Health Secretary and Michael Gove a degree in journalism?
You answered your own question. Matt Hancock was a disaster.
I'll put aside your whataboutery and I'll forget that Trump selected his unqualified and UNVETTED kids to serve in government and I'll answer...
I shouldn't do this as they say that "when you argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level and then beat you with their experience"
but here we go - he had a BA in History from Georgetown and a Law degree from Yale. In othere words he was even more qualified than many that sit on company boards worldwide.
Bonus points, quotes from president Putin...
"“Yes, in Ukraine he (Hunter Biden) had or maybe still has a business, I don’t know. It doesn’t concern us. It concerns the Americans and the Ukrainians,” said Putin.
“But well yes he had at least one company, which he practically headed up, and judging from everything he made good money. I don’t see anything criminal about this, at least we don’t know anything about this (being criminal).”
Putin also reacted with visible irritation when asked about comments Trump has made concerning Putin’s ties to the former mayor of Moscow, and to an alleged payment made to Hunter Biden by the ex-mayor’s widow. Putin said he knew nothing about the existence of any commercial relationship between Hunter and the woman. Joe Biden says the accusation about his son is not true.
Perhaps you can provide a link that is not MSM based that says that Trump's kids were not vetted, maybe the secret service perhaps. They were unpaid "Advisors" to Trump himself, their "qualification to advise him were his decision to make.
A President so heavily in debt would be open for compromise …. Selling state secrets abroad might earn a desperate person some dosh for example. Who knows ?
A President so heavily in debt would be open for compromise …. Selling state secrets abroad might earn a desperate person some dosh for example. Who knows ?
Yes and if pigs had wings they might be able to fly.
You answered your own question. Matt Hancock was a disaster.
The guy I know in finance who isn’t a disaster, while I can’t say I agree with all Michael Gove’s politics he’s often seen as the capable one in the government. Not arguing with you re Hancock, Boris didn’t seem to see him as a disaster and stood by him long enough.
A President so heavily in debt would be open for compromise …. Selling state secrets abroad might earn a desperate person some dosh for example. Who knows ?
I wouldn’t have thought a president would sell state secrets, but I could envisage scenarios arising where policies would be influenced by the prospect of financial reward/compensation. We’ve seen cash for questions involving our own MP’s.
I wouldn’t have thought a president would sell state secrets, but I could envisage scenarios arising where policies would be influenced by the prospect of financial reward/compensation. We’ve seen cash for questions involving our own MP’s.
Edit - typo change would to wouldn’t.
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How much has Biden and the likes of Nancy Pelosi been paid throughout their career? When you find out the next question you need to ask is 'What is their personal wealth?'
The answers will lead you to who exactly is corrupt and on the take.
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"
How much has Biden and the likes of Nancy Pelosi been paid throughout their career? When you find out the next question you need to ask is 'What is their personal wealth?'
The answers will lead you to who exactly is corrupt and on the take.
Maybe you haven't noticed how American politics seems to work. Those that get the biggest backing, that spend the most money, they have a tendency to win. Look at all those supported by the NRA, until that went pear shaped. Interestingly Biden has an assumed wealth of around 9 million dollars which makes him poorer than every single Senator,
Maybe you haven't noticed how American politics seems to work. Those that get the biggest backing, that spend the most money, they have a tendency to win. Look at all those supported by the NRA, until that went pear shaped. Interestingly Biden has an assumed wealth of around 9 million dollars which makes him poorer than every single Senator,
Then there's Trump who has a net worth of about 2.4 BILLION and his businesses are nbeing investigated for tax fraud.
PS the Vice POTUS is apparently worth about 6 million.
Christ you are naive.
We have evidence of Biden's family members taking massive bribes on Biden's behalf...when asked by a business partner on how they were going to get away with the Ukraine bribes Biden's brother replied "plausable deniability".
Why would somebody worth $2.4 billion need to run for President to obtain money? Take your time.
"...his businesses are being investigated for tax fraud." I don't know if you have noticed but a witch hunt has been going on for 5+ years now. They have found NOTHING. Nada. Zero. The latest desperate attempt involves them arresting an employee under the auspices that he received big bonuses from Trump but didn't pay tax on them...Trump's people say that the tax was paid by the business. We shall see what comes of it but I am predicting that it will be the same result as every other investigation conducted against him so far.
They are just slinging mud because he is the figurehead of a political movement that is anti-establishment. When things come to nothing 2/3 years down the line it doesn't matter. The mud sticks because of morons who just remember headlines and don't follow the detail...they are counting on the general population being dense and afraid.
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"
We have evidence of Biden's family members taking massive bribes on Biden's behalf...when asked by a business partner on how they were going to get away with the Ukraine bribes Biden's brother replied "plausable deniability".
Why would somebody worth $2.4 billion need to run for President to obtain money? Take your time.
"...his businesses are being investigated for tax fraud." I don't know if you have noticed but a witch hunt has been going on for 5+ years now. They have found NOTHING. Nada. Zero. The latest desperate attempt involves them arresting an employee under the auspices that he received big bonuses from Trump but didn't pay tax on them...Trump's people say that the tax was paid by the business. We shall see what comes of it but I am predicting that it will be the same result as every other investigation conducted against him so far.
They are just slinging mud because he is the figurehead of a political movement that is anti-establishment. When things come to nothing 2/3 years down the line it doesn't matter. The mud sticks because of morons who just remember headlines and don't follow the detail...they are counting on the general population being dense and afraid.
See, you're at it again. You claim there's evidence of Biden taking bribes but when it comes to Trump it's a witch hunt.
Consider this, you are a dupe. It is not naive to accept that the whole system is corrupt but it is very one eyed to claim the person you support isn't and the other side are when the evidence goes against all of them.
You are also falling into a well established pattern of believing that because I criticise Trump I must be a Biden supporter, I think. My problem isn't being naive, it's the opposite, I am so unambiguously cynical that I think they are all lying, cheating, devious, self serving crooks. All of them, from whichever country you choose. Even so, I won't accuse Biden of doing something there is no evidence for apart from on some scatty, internet site that is about as trustworthy as Boris Johnson!
We have evidence of Biden's family members taking massive bribes on Biden's behalf...when asked by a business partner on how they were going to get away with the Ukraine bribes Biden's brother replied "plausable deniability".
Why would somebody worth $2.4 billion need to run for President to obtain money? Take your time.
"...his businesses are being investigated for tax fraud." I don't know if you have noticed but a witch hunt has been going on for 5+ years now. They have found NOTHING. Nada. Zero. The latest desperate attempt involves them arresting an employee under the auspices that he received big bonuses from Trump but didn't pay tax on them...Trump's people say that the tax was paid by the business. We shall see what comes of it but I am predicting that it will be the same result as every other investigation conducted against him so far.
They are just slinging mud because he is the figurehead of a political movement that is anti-establishment. When things come to nothing 2/3 years down the line it doesn't matter. The mud sticks because of morons who just remember headlines and don't follow the detail...they are counting on the general population being dense and afraid.
A whole bunch of Trump associates have been prosecuted and convicted for various offences over the last few years.
Trump is the first president in over 40 years to fail to disclose his tax affairs, his company is under the spotlight and we’ll see what happens. I think there’s a lot more to come out.
See, you're at it again. You claim there's evidence of Biden taking bribes but when it comes to Trump it's a witch hunt.
Consider this, you are a dupe. It is not naive to accept that the whole system is corrupt but it is very one eyed to claim the person you support isn't and the other side are when the evidence goes against all of them.
You are also falling into a well established pattern of believing that because I criticise Trump I must be a Biden supporter, I think. My problem isn't being naive, it's the opposite, I am so unambiguously cynical that I think they are all lying, cheating, devious, self serving crooks. All of them, from whichever country you choose. Even so, I won't accuse Biden of doing something there is no evidence for apart from on some scatty, internet site that is about as trustworthy as Boris Johnson!
You are confused. I do not support Trump. I support the right of the American people to elect whomever they choose.
Don't pretend that how the media and the American political establishment treated Trump was not unprecedented. It was. We all saw it. It happened 2 mins ago.
You say that you believe all of the politicians are the same yet you attack Trump and defend Biden regularly. Have the decency to back your point of view up. Why is Biden more palatable to you than Trump? You stated that Trump was a liar. Biden is a liar. You infer that he was corrupt. Biden is obviously corrupt. You say that you have no evidence. There is a sea of evidence. Tony Bobulinski, for example, gives an eye witness account against his own business partners (the Biden family). What evidence do you need to believe that Biden is corrupt. Name it.
This is what Americans are talking about now...
...Biden's people are now accusing the Republicans of defunding the police as the issue is so toxic for them, and there is so much evidence that the Democrats are responsible for the mess they have created in the cities that they run that all they have got left is to tell the most outrageous lies. Wake up.
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"
Trump is the first president in over 40 years to fail to disclose his tax affairs, his company is under the spotlight and we’ll see what happens. I think there’s a lot more to come out.
These are largely the result of a political witch hunt, although I wouldn't defend the likes of Nader. The Democrats and the never Trumpers put into action a plan worthy of what they warned us Trump would do (but of course, he didn't)...they refused to accept the election result and abused power and the institutions to go after him and his supporters.
What we discovered during the Russia hoax is that Obama committed a crime worse than Richard Nixon. He and Hilary Clinton used state institutions to go after their political opponent. This is tyranny people. The Germans didn't recognise it when it came knocking in the 1930s either.
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"
These are largely the result of a political witch hunt, although I wouldn't defend the likes of Nader. The Democrats and the never Trumpers put into action a plan worthy of what they warned us Trump would do (but of course, he didn't)...they refused to accept the election result and abused power and the institutions to go after him and his supporters.
What we discovered during the Russia hoax is that Obama committed a crime worse than Richard Nixon. He and Hilary Clinton used state institutions to go after their political opponent. This is tyranny people. The Germans didn't recognise it when it came knocking in the 1930s either.
There is plenty out there from reputable sources to say the investigation in to the Russia allegations identified substantial issues and 34 individuals were indicted. Mueller never exonerated Trump but never said he should be prosecuted either. Barr’s decision making documentation was released, but it was heavily redacted and efforts are being made to secure to full release and we may get a better idea of what happened in due course.
Using state institutions to go after a political opponent..... I’d expect the State to investigate serious allegations which potentially undermine democracy and government, I’d also expect the investigation to be transparent, devoid of bias and political manipulation, we may know more about that when the Durham report is completed.
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