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Afghanistan ? 17:32 - Aug 11 with 11590 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Pull your troops out after 20 years of attempted westernisation and leave the Taliban to deal with those who were westernised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58156772

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Afghanistan ? on 17:39 - Aug 11 with 3140 viewscontroversial_jack

It was all for nothing. Yanks scarpering again like they did in Vietnam
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Afghanistan ? on 18:14 - Aug 11 with 3112 viewsCatullus

There'll be a humanitarian crisis and it won't take long for another war to happen.

There'll never be peace in Afghan, the West can do what it wants but other governments (Russia?) will keep supplying the Taliban with weapons and ammo to keep the trouble brewing.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Afghanistan ? on 18:20 - Aug 11 with 3105 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Afghanistan ? on 18:14 - Aug 11 by Catullus

There'll be a humanitarian crisis and it won't take long for another war to happen.

There'll never be peace in Afghan, the West can do what it wants but other governments (Russia?) will keep supplying the Taliban with weapons and ammo to keep the trouble brewing.


Yes, been going on for 100s of years. The US is the latest not to learn from history and is sacrificing the civilians.

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Afghanistan ? on 18:35 - Aug 11 with 3096 viewsbritferry

We couldnt beat the Afgans when we had India. USSR couldnt beat them and they are their next door neighbours. The Yanks with our backing couldnt beat them.

I cant see what we can do, so let them to it... sadly we'll have plenty more crossing the channel in years to come now.

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Afghanistan ? on 19:42 - Aug 11 with 3053 viewsKeithHaynes

When will we ever learn.

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Afghanistan ? on 19:54 - Aug 11 with 3040 viewsGwyn737

Afghanistan ? on 18:35 - Aug 11 by britferry

We couldnt beat the Afgans when we had India. USSR couldnt beat them and they are their next door neighbours. The Yanks with our backing couldnt beat them.

I cant see what we can do, so let them to it... sadly we'll have plenty more crossing the channel in years to come now.


We’ve been out there 20 years supposedly training their forces.

They didn’t hold up for long, did they?
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Afghanistan ? on 20:13 - Aug 11 with 3029 viewsbritferry

Afghanistan ? on 19:54 - Aug 11 by Gwyn737

We’ve been out there 20 years supposedly training their forces.

They didn’t hold up for long, did they?


same thing happened in Vietnam

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Afghanistan ? on 23:02 - Aug 11 with 2959 viewsKilkennyjack

Afghanistan ? on 18:35 - Aug 11 by britferry

We couldnt beat the Afgans when we had India. USSR couldnt beat them and they are their next door neighbours. The Yanks with our backing couldnt beat them.

I cant see what we can do, so let them to it... sadly we'll have plenty more crossing the channel in years to come now.


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Afghanistan ? on 23:19 - Aug 11 with 2954 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Afghanistan ? on 23:02 - Aug 11 by Kilkennyjack

Brexit ensured less controls via migration co-operation


Brexit has nothing to do with Afghanistan you muppet. USA, and Afghanistan are not even in Europe let alone the EU

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Afghanistan ? on 23:25 - Aug 11 with 2951 viewsDJack

Afghanistan ? on 18:14 - Aug 11 by Catullus

There'll be a humanitarian crisis and it won't take long for another war to happen.

There'll never be peace in Afghan, the West can do what it wants but other governments (Russia?) will keep supplying the Taliban with weapons and ammo to keep the trouble brewing.


Pakistan have been supporting the Taliban.

Russia supports everyone and the ensuing chaos.

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Afghanistan ? on 07:06 - Aug 12 with 2887 viewsYrAlarch

Afghanistan ? on 19:42 - Aug 11 by KeithHaynes

When will we ever learn.


It would seem that Bush and Blair did not have the intellectual capacity to take a lesson from history, as someone else has documented.
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Afghanistan ? on 10:33 - Aug 12 with 2813 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan ? on 23:25 - Aug 11 by DJack

Pakistan have been supporting the Taliban.

Russia supports everyone and the ensuing chaos.


Pakistani troops were on the front line out there
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Afghanistan ? on 12:12 - Aug 12 with 2789 viewsjackrabbit

The US has spent $1 trillion - that’s $1,000,000,000,000 in 20 years in Afghanistan. During that time they have brought normality to life for ordinary people especially girls and women (‘westernised’ according to some numpty above!) and provided training and support to the Afghan military. A total of 2,312 US military personnel in Afghanistan have died and 20,066 have been wounded since 2001. (Add to that, the lives of 454 British servicemen and women, exceeding the death toll of the Falklands War in 1982 and perhaps it’s time to say enough is enough.)

Perhaps they think it’s time some of the Moslem states in the region should step up to the plate and support the Afghan military in squashing the fanatical murdering Taliban ‘militants’ as the BBC refers to them?
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Afghanistan ? on 13:02 - Aug 12 with 2765 viewsBarrySwan

Afghanistan ? on 12:12 - Aug 12 by jackrabbit

The US has spent $1 trillion - that’s $1,000,000,000,000 in 20 years in Afghanistan. During that time they have brought normality to life for ordinary people especially girls and women (‘westernised’ according to some numpty above!) and provided training and support to the Afghan military. A total of 2,312 US military personnel in Afghanistan have died and 20,066 have been wounded since 2001. (Add to that, the lives of 454 British servicemen and women, exceeding the death toll of the Falklands War in 1982 and perhaps it’s time to say enough is enough.)

Perhaps they think it’s time some of the Moslem states in the region should step up to the plate and support the Afghan military in squashing the fanatical murdering Taliban ‘militants’ as the BBC refers to them?


I remember watching the Russians loading body bags onto their helicopters day after day for years in Afghanistan and thinking...

'What complete and utter moron would think it a good idea to try and occupy Afghanistan? only a complete and utter fool wouldn't realise that its an unwinnable situation and will only revert back to its old medieval ways in an instant after your troops leave'

I suppose that we know now who would be moronic enough to think any different. The British and US governments of all political persuasions despite the obvious evidence provided by the Russians before a British or American soldier even set foot in the place.
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Afghanistan ? on 14:50 - Aug 12 with 2736 viewsmax936

Afghanistan ? on 18:14 - Aug 11 by Catullus

There'll be a humanitarian crisis and it won't take long for another war to happen.

There'll never be peace in Afghan, the West can do what it wants but other governments (Russia?) will keep supplying the Taliban with weapons and ammo to keep the trouble brewing.


Yep, Russia will never let Afghanistan become westernised, Ukraine is the same.

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Afghanistan ? on 17:47 - Aug 12 with 2680 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan ? on 14:50 - Aug 12 by max936

Yep, Russia will never let Afghanistan become westernised, Ukraine is the same.


It's a re run of the 19th century great game. Substitute the USA for the British empire and there it is
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Afghanistan ? on 18:54 - Aug 12 with 2661 viewsCatullus

Afghanistan ? on 17:47 - Aug 12 by controversial_jack

It's a re run of the 19th century great game. Substitute the USA for the British empire and there it is


You're trying too hard mun, calm down. This isn't a re run, it's an ever present situation where one place tries to take advantage of other places. It was going on before countries even existed. Rome, the Greek city states, tribal Africa, tribal America. It's what humanity does, we are utter B'stards.

Though there isn't a lot in Afghan to take advantage of, Poopy crops maybe?

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Afghanistan ? on 19:01 - Aug 12 with 2658 viewsmax936

Afghanistan ? on 17:47 - Aug 12 by controversial_jack

It's a re run of the 19th century great game. Substitute the USA for the British empire and there it is


We will never keep our beaks out of things that doesn't really concern us, has as been said above nearly 500 British troops have come back home in body bags, needless waste of life.

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Afghanistan ? on 20:13 - Aug 12 with 2620 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Evacuation starting

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/taliban-claim-capture-kandahar-gri

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Afghanistan ? on 21:29 - Aug 12 with 2606 viewsCatullus

Afghanistan ? on 20:13 - Aug 12 by JACKMANANDBOY

Evacuation starting

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/taliban-claim-capture-kandahar-gri


You have to worry for the girls there who have been going to schools. The Taliban don't agree with female education. They've been known to kill them. That's the thin edge of the wedge out there.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/taliban-kills-woman-for-wearing-tight-clot

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Afghanistan ? on 21:51 - Aug 12 with 2590 viewsFlashberryjack

If the people of Afghanistan can't defend themselves, it's been proven that no one else can.

The Taliban belong in the darkest of ages, and, sadly that's the direction Afghanistan is heading.

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Afghanistan ? on 21:56 - Aug 12 with 2587 viewsCatullus

Afghanistan ? on 21:51 - Aug 12 by Flashberryjack

If the people of Afghanistan can't defend themselves, it's been proven that no one else can.

The Taliban belong in the darkest of ages, and, sadly that's the direction Afghanistan is heading.


That's the problem, the Taliban ARE people of Afghanistan. This is a civil war.

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Afghanistan ? on 22:13 - Aug 12 with 2581 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Afghanistan ? on 21:29 - Aug 12 by Catullus

You have to worry for the girls there who have been going to schools. The Taliban don't agree with female education. They've been known to kill them. That's the thin edge of the wedge out there.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/taliban-kills-woman-for-wearing-tight-clot


Add in anyone who has been 'cooperating' with the foreign forces.

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Afghanistan ? on 13:47 - Aug 13 with 2444 viewsFlashberryjack

Afghanistan ? on 21:56 - Aug 12 by Catullus

That's the problem, the Taliban ARE people of Afghanistan. This is a civil war.


The Taliban is made up of several nationalities not just Afghan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, and jihadists from the UK and Europe to name just a few.

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Afghanistan ? on 10:49 - Aug 14 with 2269 viewscontroversial_jack

The Taliban was never the enemy of the West in Afghanistan. The pretence of war was that they were sheltering Al Qaeda, but the British army didn't capture a single Al Qaeda agent in that country
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