| Afghanistan ? 17:32 - Aug 11 with 14359 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Pull your troops out after 20 years of attempted westernisation and leave the Taliban to deal with those who were westernised.
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| Afghanistan ? on 11:15 - Aug 14 with 1368 views | Catullus |
| Afghanistan ? on 10:49 - Aug 14 by controversial_jack |
The Taliban was never the enemy of the West in Afghanistan. The pretence of war was that they were sheltering Al Qaeda, but the British army didn't capture a single Al Qaeda agent in that country |
Not captured but Al Qaeda were killed there,
https://www.wsj.com/articles/k
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| Afghanistan ? on 11:38 - Aug 14 with 1346 views | controversial_jack |
That was the Yanks. The British military didn't find even one. All those lives lost on both sides just to knock off a handful of alleged commanders.Another Vietnam i'm afraid | | | |
| Afghanistan ? on 14:38 - Aug 14 with 1311 views | Catullus |
| Afghanistan ? on 11:38 - Aug 14 by controversial_jack |
That was the Yanks. The British military didn't find even one. All those lives lost on both sides just to knock off a handful of alleged commanders.Another Vietnam i'm afraid |
Does it matter which army caught them? It proves they were/are there. Saying "not captured" is a bit disingenuous too. We are talking about extremists who would rather die than be captured.
As it goes, it is another Vietnam. Bad decisions, bad actions followed by more bad decisions. Watching the news about it last night the coalition forces have withdrawn and removed all support leaving the Afghan army short in key areas, specially air and artillery cover. We know that just like in Vietnam, the friendly forces were littered with the enemy, infiltrator and spies. The whole thing is a cess pit of badness. | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 23:37 - Aug 14 with 1260 views | controversial_jack |
| Afghanistan ? on 14:38 - Aug 14 by Catullus |
Does it matter which army caught them? It proves they were/are there. Saying "not captured" is a bit disingenuous too. We are talking about extremists who would rather die than be captured.
As it goes, it is another Vietnam. Bad decisions, bad actions followed by more bad decisions. Watching the news about it last night the coalition forces have withdrawn and removed all support leaving the Afghan army short in key areas, specially air and artillery cover. We know that just like in Vietnam, the friendly forces were littered with the enemy, infiltrator and spies. The whole thing is a cess pit of badness. |
It doesn't prove they were there in numbers or being shielded or trained by the Taliban.A few commanders could have been there for any reason
It was another Vietnam. There was no plan after the invasion.Bringing in democratic votes while there is no law and order is a waste of time
The British army fared particularly badly, as they simple didn't have enough boots on the ground.They spent most of the time simply defending themselves, with the occasional pointless patrol, while telling the Yanks how we did it in Northern Ireland. | | | |
| Afghanistan ? on 12:43 - Aug 15 with 1203 views | Catullus |
| Afghanistan ? on 23:37 - Aug 14 by controversial_jack |
It doesn't prove they were there in numbers or being shielded or trained by the Taliban.A few commanders could have been there for any reason
It was another Vietnam. There was no plan after the invasion.Bringing in democratic votes while there is no law and order is a waste of time
The British army fared particularly badly, as they simple didn't have enough boots on the ground.They spent most of the time simply defending themselves, with the occasional pointless patrol, while telling the Yanks how we did it in Northern Ireland. |
Al Qaeda was founded in Afghanistan during the Afghan-Soviet war. It started up and trained in Afghan made up of several different nationalities but many afghani.
https://www.britannica.com/eve
Afghanistan was Al Qaeda's headquarters. | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 13:34 - Aug 15 with 1183 views | 73__73 |
I’m like the other 99.9 % of people in this country who couldn’t careless what happens in Afghanistan | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 13:44 - Aug 15 with 1177 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Afghanistan ? on 13:34 - Aug 15 by 73__73 |
I’m like the other 99.9 % of people in this country who couldn’t careless what happens in Afghanistan |
Well there is 28 million people who have been encouraged to live a life of freedom who now face a regime that restricts severely what women can do including having an education and for example executes people for adultery. This situation brought about by the US and its allies made worse by a decision to withdraw announced at short notice. I understand that you may not care, I think it is pretty abhorrent. | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 13:58 - Aug 15 with 1173 views | 73__73 |
| Afghanistan ? on 13:44 - Aug 15 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Well there is 28 million people who have been encouraged to live a life of freedom who now face a regime that restricts severely what women can do including having an education and for example executes people for adultery. This situation brought about by the US and its allies made worse by a decision to withdraw announced at short notice. I understand that you may not care, I think it is pretty abhorrent. |
The notion that the invasion was to democratise Afghanistan is ridiculous.
Maybe people should understand why the USA/U.K. invaded in the first place.
Do you honestly think people in this country care what happens out there ? | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 14:03 - Aug 15 with 1169 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Afghanistan ? on 23:19 - Aug 11 by felixstowe_jack |
Brexit has nothing to do with Afghanistan you muppet. USA, and Afghanistan are not even in Europe let alone the EU |
Britferry suggested it would lead to additional refugees flooding to uk.
If he is correct, then Brexit has ensured less EU cooperation and not more.
You wanted a global Britain, own it. |  |
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| Afghanistan ? on 14:15 - Aug 15 with 1160 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Afghanistan ? on 19:01 - Aug 12 by max936 |
We will never keep our beaks out of things that doesn't really concern us, has as been said above nearly 500 British troops have come back home in body bags, needless waste of life. |
Very sad indeed. | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 15:23 - Aug 15 with 1143 views | 73__73 |
| Afghanistan ? on 19:01 - Aug 12 by max936 |
We will never keep our beaks out of things that doesn't really concern us, has as been said above nearly 500 British troops have come back home in body bags, needless waste of life. |
It’s less than 500 , but I get your point.
The British soldiers killed Afghanistan though is not really a huge amount compared to let’s say the battle of the Somme when there were over 57,000 casualties and almost 20,000 killed on the first day of the battle alone.
Less than 500 British dead in almost 2 decades of fighting is extremely low.
Of course on an individual level and for the loved ones it’s extremely painful. | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 16:46 - Aug 15 with 1106 views | controversial_jack |
| Afghanistan ? on 12:43 - Aug 15 by Catullus |
Al Qaeda was founded in Afghanistan during the Afghan-Soviet war. It started up and trained in Afghan made up of several different nationalities but many afghani.
https://www.britannica.com/eve
Afghanistan was Al Qaeda's headquarters. |
That was the lie that was sold to us. The Mujaheddin, which i believe is a loose organisation of guerrilla fighters were fighting the Russians,
Al Queda, is an international organisation, it doesn't have it's HQ in Afghanistan, this is what makes it so difficult to defeat
ISIS, formed in Iraq in 2006, by Al Zargawi in response to the US led Invasion , and that again doesn't haEe a HQ | | | |
| Afghanistan ? on 17:40 - Aug 15 with 1082 views | Catullus |
| Afghanistan ? on 16:46 - Aug 15 by controversial_jack |
That was the lie that was sold to us. The Mujaheddin, which i believe is a loose organisation of guerrilla fighters were fighting the Russians,
Al Queda, is an international organisation, it doesn't have it's HQ in Afghanistan, this is what makes it so difficult to defeat
ISIS, formed in Iraq in 2006, by Al Zargawi in response to the US led Invasion , and that again doesn't haEe a HQ |
The Mujahideen fought the Russians, , so did Al Qaeda. The Taliban emerged from the wreckage of the Mujahideen in 1996 and that was the year Bin Laden went there and formed his training headquarters. Al Qaeda actually helped the Taliban to tale control of Afghanistan (well most of it) and it was Al Qaeda who killed the Mujahideen leader Ahmad Shah Masoud. Bin Laden's mountain stronghold was in Tora Bora which is in Afghanistan.
We were sold a lie about Iraq and the gulf war. Thr Afghan invasion was because of 9/11 and Al Qaeda training terrorists to attack the West. Or was 9/11 a lie? | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 18:27 - Aug 15 with 1054 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
The US has miscalculated badly, the instruction to US citizens in Kabul is to stay in place and fill out a form!
https://af.usembassy.gov/secur [Post edited 15 Aug 2021 18:27]
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| Afghanistan ? on 18:33 - Aug 15 with 1050 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Afghanistan ? on 18:35 - Aug 11 by britferry |
We couldnt beat the Afgans when we had India. USSR couldnt beat them and they are their next door neighbours. The Yanks with our backing couldnt beat them.
I cant see what we can do, so let them to it... sadly we'll have plenty more crossing the channel in years to come now. |
The Chinese if they were minded to would go in there and scorch the place . They are the only power who could possibly go in and change Afghanistan . If opium catches on again they probably will |  |
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| Afghanistan ? on 18:35 - Aug 15 with 1048 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Afghanistan ? on 17:39 - Aug 11 by controversial_jack |
It was all for nothing. Yanks scarpering again like they did in Vietnam |
I beg to differ. America’s opiate problem is worse now than ever. God bless the CIA right? | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 18:41 - Aug 15 with 1037 views | trampie |
Taliban seen by some as less extreme than Al Qaeda and Isis. |  |
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| Afghanistan ? on 18:41 - Aug 15 with 1030 views | trampie |
Same old Yankies always running. | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 19:07 - Aug 15 with 1020 views | Boundy |
| Afghanistan ? on 18:41 - Aug 15 by trampie |
Same old Yankies always running. |
So no mention of the other many coalition countries who've also left the area , I'm surprised you didn't mention the English army in your yet another nonsensical post . | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 19:12 - Aug 15 with 1014 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Afghanistan ? on 18:41 - Aug 15 by trampie |
Same old Yankies always running. |
Same old Trampie - always WUMming | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 19:26 - Aug 15 with 1003 views | trampie |
I remember Vietnam, same happened there, Yankees ran. | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 19:59 - Aug 15 with 985 views | Boundy |
| Afghanistan ? on 19:26 - Aug 15 by trampie |
I remember Vietnam, same happened there, Yankees ran. |
You haven't posted for awhile , it was nice . | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 20:07 - Aug 15 with 973 views | trampie |
| Afghanistan ? on 19:59 - Aug 15 by Boundy |
You haven't posted for awhile , it was nice . |
Charming. | |
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| Afghanistan ? on 20:24 - Aug 15 with 965 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Afghanistan ? on 19:59 - Aug 15 by Boundy |
You haven't posted for awhile , it was nice . |
You should try it.
Only a decade or two …it might even help you …? | |
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