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New proposal for Swansea lagoon 10:06 - Oct 25 with 4317 viewsfelixstowe_jack

A new proposal for Swansea tidal lagoon and solar farm on the unused Queen's Dock announced today. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59010675

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tidal-lagoon-swansea-battery-house
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 10:11 - Oct 25 with 2722 viewsonehunglow

Again

Contentious stuff.


Many against .

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 10:20 - Oct 25 with 2708 viewsfelixstowe_jack

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 10:11 - Oct 25 by onehunglow

Again

Contentious stuff.


Many against .


Yes but this one includes a floating solar farm on Queen's Dock as well as floating houses and a battery production factory all on land and water owned by Association British Ports which is currently derelect and unused.

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 10:40 - Oct 25 with 2690 viewsonehunglow

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 10:20 - Oct 25 by felixstowe_jack

Yes but this one includes a floating solar farm on Queen's Dock as well as floating houses and a battery production factory all on land and water owned by Association British Ports which is currently derelect and unused.


It will still be contentious Felix,I suggest.
People seem to rail against good projects or ideas and I think this is a very exciting idea

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:16 - Oct 25 with 2662 viewsCatullus

A major eco friendly project, I like the idea but will the Senedd back it? Then will Westminster?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:23 - Oct 25 with 2653 viewsfelixstowe_jack

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:16 - Oct 25 by Catullus

A major eco friendly project, I like the idea but will the Senedd back it? Then will Westminster?


It does not need Westminster approval it is all within the powers of Swansea City Council (planning permission)
Natural resources Wales ( environment certification) Senedd (As a major project needs their approval) Associated British Ports (the land and docks owner)

Time for Wales to step up. I know the jobs are not in Cardiff but good jobs in Swansea.

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:24 - Oct 25 with 2651 viewsProfessor

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:23 - Oct 25 by felixstowe_jack

It does not need Westminster approval it is all within the powers of Swansea City Council (planning permission)
Natural resources Wales ( environment certification) Senedd (As a major project needs their approval) Associated British Ports (the land and docks owner)

Time for Wales to step up. I know the jobs are not in Cardiff but good jobs in Swansea.


Jobs, homes, improvement of an area and renewable power. Would have to be pretty daft to be against that....
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:37 - Oct 25 with 2639 viewsCatullus

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:23 - Oct 25 by felixstowe_jack

It does not need Westminster approval it is all within the powers of Swansea City Council (planning permission)
Natural resources Wales ( environment certification) Senedd (As a major project needs their approval) Associated British Ports (the land and docks owner)

Time for Wales to step up. I know the jobs are not in Cardiff but good jobs in Swansea.


It depends on funding, wasn't the last project turned down by Westminster which ultimately was why it stopped? The Senedd don't have the financial clout to fund this and cannot borrow enough, or has that changed?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:42 - Oct 25 with 2630 viewsFlashberryjack

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:24 - Oct 25 by Professor

Jobs, homes, improvement of an area and renewable power. Would have to be pretty daft to be against that....


If it works, there must be some doubt or it would be built in Cardiff.

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:44 - Oct 25 with 2628 viewsraynor94

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:16 - Oct 25 by Catullus

A major eco friendly project, I like the idea but will the Senedd back it? Then will Westminster?


I can imagine what Dippy Drakeford's response will be, great idea but surely Cardiff Bay will be more suitable

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:46 - Oct 25 with 2618 viewsRonaldStump

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:42 - Oct 25 by Flashberryjack

If it works, there must be some doubt or it would be built in Cardiff.


Still time, after all they need cheering up

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:58 - Oct 25 with 2614 viewsProfessor

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:44 - Oct 25 by raynor94

I can imagine what Dippy Drakeford's response will be, great idea but surely Cardiff Bay will be more suitable


No proper tide-the barrage filled the bay so it looks 'nice' and not the mud bowl of old when the tide was out. And destroyed wetland habitats.
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:59 - Oct 25 with 2611 viewsProfessor

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:58 - Oct 25 by Professor

No proper tide-the barrage filled the bay so it looks 'nice' and not the mud bowl of old when the tide was out. And destroyed wetland habitats.


Of course there were older plans for Severn barrage across the estuary to harness tidal power, but were never realised.
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:08 - Oct 25 with 2591 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Westminster has to authorise the massive subsidies on the electricity produced whithout which the project is not economical.
£1.7Billion that won't even keep Swansea powered 24 hours a day.
How is dumping millions of tons of rocks in to Swansea Bay "Eco"?
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:13 - Oct 25 with 2590 viewsCatullus

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:58 - Oct 25 by Professor

No proper tide-the barrage filled the bay so it looks 'nice' and not the mud bowl of old when the tide was out. And destroyed wetland habitats.


Destroying habitat didn't bother Drakeford when it benefitted Cardiff then. The blokes a hypocrite.
I expect they'll turn down this project because it's not green enough.

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:17 - Oct 25 with 2587 viewsfelixstowe_jack

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:08 - Oct 25 by A_Fans_Dad

Westminster has to authorise the massive subsidies on the electricity produced whithout which the project is not economical.
£1.7Billion that won't even keep Swansea powered 24 hours a day.
How is dumping millions of tons of rocks in to Swansea Bay "Eco"?


No subsidies needed with the current rate of electricity prices. The solar farm output would make a profit on its own as well as the battery factory and housing. The funds are in place from America investors.
The Welsh government could even give the docks freeport status which would cut down taxes and planning timescales considerably.

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:27 - Oct 25 with 2579 viewsProfessor

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:13 - Oct 25 by Catullus

Destroying habitat didn't bother Drakeford when it benefitted Cardiff then. The blokes a hypocrite.
I expect they'll turn down this project because it's not green enough.


In fairness well before Drakeford's time.
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:45 - Oct 25 with 2562 views1983

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:24 - Oct 25 by Professor

Jobs, homes, improvement of an area and renewable power. Would have to be pretty daft to be against that....


If Swansea Council can't put speed bumps and traffic lights on it they won't be interested


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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:52 - Oct 25 with 2556 viewsCatullus

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:27 - Oct 25 by Professor

In fairness well before Drakeford's time.


it was started in 1994 so yes, before Drakefords time, maybe I was a bit harsh.

Maybe I'll revisit that statement when we see how much green land gets dug up for the Cardiff metro system!

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 13:23 - Oct 25 with 2528 viewsonehunglow

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:24 - Oct 25 by Professor

Jobs, homes, improvement of an area and renewable power. Would have to be pretty daft to be against that....


People are against vaccination for a killer virus.

Plenty around

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 13:36 - Oct 25 with 2521 viewsA_Fans_Dad

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:17 - Oct 25 by felixstowe_jack

No subsidies needed with the current rate of electricity prices. The solar farm output would make a profit on its own as well as the battery factory and housing. The funds are in place from America investors.
The Welsh government could even give the docks freeport status which would cut down taxes and planning timescales considerably.



Electricity prices are so high because of subsidies.
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 13:38 - Oct 25 with 2518 viewsRonaldStump

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 13:23 - Oct 25 by onehunglow

People are against vaccination for a killer virus.

Plenty around


Killer virus? You've been watching too much monty python

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 13:59 - Oct 25 with 2510 viewsonehunglow

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 13:38 - Oct 25 by RonaldStump

Killer virus? You've been watching too much monty python


Yes,you know the one where previously healthy people catch then die from.
Chums of mine too.

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 14:21 - Oct 25 with 2494 viewspencoedjack

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 11:24 - Oct 25 by Professor

Jobs, homes, improvement of an area and renewable power. Would have to be pretty daft to be against that....


We are talking about Welsh Labour.
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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 15:48 - Oct 25 with 2449 viewsmax936

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:08 - Oct 25 by A_Fans_Dad

Westminster has to authorise the massive subsidies on the electricity produced whithout which the project is not economical.
£1.7Billion that won't even keep Swansea powered 24 hours a day.
How is dumping millions of tons of rocks in to Swansea Bay "Eco"?


Hey up, Mr knows better has rocked up. Dear me mun,

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New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 15:52 - Oct 25 with 2446 viewsmax936

New proposal for Swansea lagoon on 12:17 - Oct 25 by felixstowe_jack

No subsidies needed with the current rate of electricity prices. The solar farm output would make a profit on its own as well as the battery factory and housing. The funds are in place from America investors.
The Welsh government could even give the docks freeport status which would cut down taxes and planning timescales considerably.


I'm all for it as long as it doesn't look like an eyesore.


Like that silly bridge going across the road to the Arena, it looks ridiculous.

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