| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else 13:49 - Jan 7 with 10654 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
The operational definitions around Covid need to be revised. A 40% incease would account for the increase in hospitalisations in Wales since early December.
Death figures are also going to be inflated.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/sta [Post edited 7 Jan 2022 13:51]
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 07:06 - Jan 8 with 1114 views | angryjack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 05:56 - Jan 8 by felixstowe_jack |
How do you get hit by a bus in an ICU ward? |
What?the massively number of 39 people in Wales on ventilator beds as of yesterday...its a joke its just a cold.. |  | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:18 - Jan 8 with 1085 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:08 - Jan 7 by 73__73 |
Ok not just hit by a bus, how about old age, cancer, stroke, heart attack, work accident, food poisoning, being hit by lightning, falling from height, being shot, being stabbed, vehicle accident, dying in your sleep, and so on and so on. |
Covid contributes to premature deaths by those natural causes. Strokes and heart attacks are directly caused by covid.
How many people die by struck by lightning, being shot, car accident etc?
Moronic argument. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:22 - Jan 8 with 1085 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:18 - Jan 7 by A_Fans_Dad |
What a stupid question, they can test for covid after the accident (or any accident) when they present in hospital, die of the injuries later and be counted. |
So asking how someone criticising the current measurement of covid deaths suggests an alternative is a stupid question?
It hasn't been answered. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:45 - Jan 8 with 1082 views | Catullus |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:18 - Jan 8 by Scotia |
Covid contributes to premature deaths by those natural causes. Strokes and heart attacks are directly caused by covid.
How many people die by struck by lightning, being shot, car accident etc?
Moronic argument. |
Yeah, my neighbour has COPD and diabetes, he's ok on his medication and he's triple jabbed but even so, if he gets covid his chances aren't good. If he dies it will be the combination of illnesses but covid would be the tipping point. | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:46 - Jan 8 with 1079 views | RonaldStump |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 17:46 - Jan 7 by controversial_jack |
It doesn't work like that. Covid has to to contribute to the death to be recorded as a covid death |
If you believe that you are an absolute numpty of the highest order. They get bonus's for recording a death as a covid death | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:26 - Jan 8 with 1023 views | controversial_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:46 - Jan 8 by RonaldStump |
If you believe that you are an absolute numpty of the highest order. They get bonus's for recording a death as a covid death |
You are saying doctors falsify death certificates? They do not get bonuses for covid deaths, what a ridiculous thing to say | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:59 - Jan 8 with 1024 views | felixstowe_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:46 - Jan 8 by RonaldStump |
If you believe that you are an absolute numpty of the highest order. They get bonus's for recording a death as a covid death |
Another lie from an antivaxer what a surprise. | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 12:11 - Jan 11 with 959 views | controversial_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:59 - Jan 8 by felixstowe_jack |
Another lie from an antivaxer what a surprise. |
Yes.it's total misinformation on purpose as nobody could be that dull | | | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 12:33 - Jan 11 with 959 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:45 - Jan 8 by Catullus |
Yeah, my neighbour has COPD and diabetes, he's ok on his medication and he's triple jabbed but even so, if he gets covid his chances aren't good. If he dies it will be the combination of illnesses but covid would be the tipping point. |
It's an interesting debate, take a case of an obese adult with type two diabetes and metabolic disease brought on by years as nd years of poor lifestyle decisions. This makes them vulnerable to respiratory viruses.
They catch a respiratory virus that healthy people of the same age normally survive but they unfortunately die.
What is the root cause of their demise? | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 12:44 - Jan 11 with 954 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:26 - Jan 8 by controversial_jack |
You are saying doctors falsify death certificates? They do not get bonuses for covid deaths, what a ridiculous thing to say |
They do in the USA. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 14:13 - Jan 11 with 939 views | controversial_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 12:44 - Jan 11 by A_Fans_Dad |
They do in the USA. |
I couldn't care less what they do there | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 15:02 - Jan 11 with 928 views | 1462jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 14:13 - Jan 11 by controversial_jack |
I couldn't care less what they do there |
They don’t show this on your beloved news outlets
https://committees.parliament. |  | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 15:10 - Jan 11 with 920 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Unfortunately the media is more interested in partisan stories rather than any serious investigation of issues. | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:17 - Jan 11 with 898 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 15:10 - Jan 11 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Unfortunately the media is more interested in partisan stories rather than any serious investigation of issues. |
No, they also don't show this either.
The latest GOV.UK Vaccine review Cases/100,000
Vaccinated Unvaccinated
< 18 1,827.40 2,961.60
18-29 7,221.40 3,240.80
30-39 6,383.90 2,686.60
40-49 5,393.80 2,147.20
50-59 3,738.40 1,721.90
60-69 2,266.30 1,194.30
70-79 1,347.60 862
≥80 1,055.00 981.5
Note the efficacy of the Booster is already wearing off.
Or this predictions of susceptibility to Omicron
Modelled likelihood of testing positive with an Omicron probable result in people who test positive for COVID-19, by screened demographic characteristic, UK
Vaccination status Not vaccinated (Reference) 1 -
Vaccination status 1 dose 1.57
Vaccination status 2 doses, more than 14 days ago 2.26
Vaccination status 3 doses, more than 14 days ago 4.45 [Post edited 12 Jan 2022 15:10]
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 18:02 - Jan 11 with 874 views | controversial_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 07:06 - Jan 8 by angryjack |
What?the massively number of 39 people in Wales on ventilator beds as of yesterday...its a joke its just a cold.. |
My mates niece 32, is currently on a life support with covid. It's just a cold? You idiot! | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 20:34 - Jan 11 with 854 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 18:02 - Jan 11 by controversial_jack |
My mates niece 32, is currently on a life support with covid. It's just a cold? You idiot! |
That is very sad. Isn't it a pity that they don't try and treat people before they get that bad? | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 23:32 - Jan 11 with 831 views | controversial_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 20:34 - Jan 11 by A_Fans_Dad |
That is very sad. Isn't it a pity that they don't try and treat people before they get that bad? |
There is no treatment apart from oxygen, the rest it trial and error. Some respond others don't | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 23:46 - Jan 11 with 828 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 23:32 - Jan 11 by controversial_jack |
There is no treatment apart from oxygen, the rest it trial and error. Some respond others don't |
There are 29 treatments that most are not used in the UK.
If I was in their position or their family I would want the doctors to try any treatment that has shown to have some benefit, wouldn't you? | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 15:13 - Jan 12 with 790 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Now a warning from the EU Medicine Agency.
"Repeat booster doses every four months could eventually weaken the immune system and tire out people"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 15:27 - Jan 12 with 789 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Another Professor who will be branded as an "ant-vaxxer"
https://swprs.org/professor-eh
"Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure"
"You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again."
Sound familiar, this guy tells it as it is. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:26 - Jan 12 with 767 views | felixstowe_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 23:46 - Jan 11 by A_Fans_Dad |
There are 29 treatments that most are not used in the UK.
If I was in their position or their family I would want the doctors to try any treatment that has shown to have some benefit, wouldn't you? |
Bet you would bring back leeches and blood letting . | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:32 - Jan 12 with 763 views | controversial_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 23:46 - Jan 11 by A_Fans_Dad |
There are 29 treatments that most are not used in the UK.
If I was in their position or their family I would want the doctors to try any treatment that has shown to have some benefit, wouldn't you? |
That's because they don't work | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 20:44 - Jan 12 with 750 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:32 - Jan 12 by controversial_jack |
That's because they don't work |
You have been hiding your light under a bushel, I had no idea that you were such a medical expert.
All those doctors and scientists that conducted all those studies should have consulted you first to save them the bother.
They should have used your technique to get the right study results instead of of all those successful ones that must obviously be wrong. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 21:07 - Jan 12 with 744 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 15:13 - Jan 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
Now a warning from the EU Medicine Agency.
"Repeat booster doses every four months could eventually weaken the immune system and tire out people"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news |
I heard a member of the JCVI on Radio 4 say something similar about only vaccinating those at high risk if there's a surge in Winter. | |
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