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Again some advice 11:55 - May 3 with 9188 viewsKeithHaynes

Please, if you don’t agree with someone or they have a different opinion to you do not have a go at them or undermine them personally. If the adult debating side of your character isn’t available then use the ignore button or don’t post on here.

We will revert to more bans if necessary.

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Again some advice on 13:42 - May 5 with 927 viewsKeithHaynes

Again some advice on 12:21 - May 5 by Sirjohnalot

Plan is to retire up here in our early 50s. Don’t want to work ourselves to death,


Def don’t John.
I was lucky but hadn’t work hard to retire when I did, and risked a lot to get there, life threatening stuff which his why the odd abuser on Twitter and on here no longer bother me. In fact their interest in this site, it’s occupants and writers I see as a positive, the more they write the more views we get. I’ve had many new memberships here as a result of people who have read some of the BS floating around on Twitter, and they have had the intelligence to look about this site and find out for themselves. Many have said how much they enjoy the website daily and it’s information. They came as doubters and are now an integral part of the many thousands of views we get. So long may the few dissenters continue, I thank them all. 😂👍

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Again some advice on 13:45 - May 5 with 926 viewsvetchonian

Again some advice on 21:49 - May 4 by trampie

I know midge's can be an issue in some parts of Scotland, wise choice not to leave the dog, my wife and I was the same.


Lots of midges from Scotland like that Midge Ure of Ultravox fame

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Again some advice on 13:51 - May 5 with 911 viewsonehunglow

Again some advice on 13:45 - May 5 by vetchonian

Lots of midges from Scotland like that Midge Ure of Ultravox fame


Midges have a bad press .
They have feelings

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Again some advice on 13:56 - May 5 with 915 viewsvetchonian

Again some advice on 20:49 - May 4 by lifelong

The only reason you like those posters is because they are just as boring and negative as you… Roger and out.


So why am I negative?

Because Im not happy clapping?

Here we are at the end of the season of transition and can you tell me you have real confidence we will finish in a much imorived postion next season?

Martin sytem is flawed many with good football knowledge have discussed i on here.

There is all this talk of a reversion to the Swansea way

Neither MArtinez or Brendan played with 3 at the back.

Usually they played 4-1-4-1

using wingers with the full back overlapping too

MArtin has mainly gone 5-4-1 with the full backs pushing high up the field.

This has left us exposed an area Notts Forews exploited both at the Liberty and the City ground, other teams have seen this too.

at the start of the season we had high pass stats and possession stats as we passsed the ball in our defensive third or mostly in our own half with short passes I witnessed Naughron and Grimes exchange about 5 passes just insided our half just back and fore when they were maybe 5 yards aprt if that the ball never went forwards just sideways.
Last season Grimes was often found carrying the ball forwards or spraying nice long passes such as the one leading to Obafemis goal at Forest at the start of the season he hardly did this ...in fairness since March there seems to have been an adoption of a change in approach we no longer send the ball back to the keeper from a kick off but tend to pass a long ball out towards the wing at least we have netured into the oppositions half then.

I could on but I know I would become even more boring I guess.

Sorry for that but I do like to bck my opinions with facts not just emotion.

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Again some advice on 14:26 - May 5 with 883 viewsonehunglow

Again some advice on 13:56 - May 5 by vetchonian

So why am I negative?

Because Im not happy clapping?

Here we are at the end of the season of transition and can you tell me you have real confidence we will finish in a much imorived postion next season?

Martin sytem is flawed many with good football knowledge have discussed i on here.

There is all this talk of a reversion to the Swansea way

Neither MArtinez or Brendan played with 3 at the back.

Usually they played 4-1-4-1

using wingers with the full back overlapping too

MArtin has mainly gone 5-4-1 with the full backs pushing high up the field.

This has left us exposed an area Notts Forews exploited both at the Liberty and the City ground, other teams have seen this too.

at the start of the season we had high pass stats and possession stats as we passsed the ball in our defensive third or mostly in our own half with short passes I witnessed Naughron and Grimes exchange about 5 passes just insided our half just back and fore when they were maybe 5 yards aprt if that the ball never went forwards just sideways.
Last season Grimes was often found carrying the ball forwards or spraying nice long passes such as the one leading to Obafemis goal at Forest at the start of the season he hardly did this ...in fairness since March there seems to have been an adoption of a change in approach we no longer send the ball back to the keeper from a kick off but tend to pass a long ball out towards the wing at least we have netured into the oppositions half then.

I could on but I know I would become even more boring I guess.

Sorry for that but I do like to bck my opinions with facts not just emotion.


Roger lifey Im afraid posts nothing of consequence;he merely derides anyone slagging off the team/club/coach/Wales the language.He is utterly unable to have a meaningful discussion with like you and I.

If every post was basically the same,this site would be dead .No discusion means no interest. It is positive to ask questions. If nobody else will,I certainly will as Im not bothered about being "negative,unpopular or a vile and scum as some have referred to me.

If Lifey cannot stand to see discourse that he disagrees then its down to him to ignore.

The best posters are those with whom you can disagree ,and the more the better. We disagree on stuff and I'm not sure we'd resort to the tactics Lifey/Winston resort too. Bear in mind,I have been exchanging with lifey for 15 years,longer with Winston.They will tell you I have always slagged off every manager and every player whilst kicking the stadium cat in the nuts.

You're a great poster

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Again some advice on 14:32 - May 5 with 880 viewsSTID2017

Again some advice on 14:26 - May 5 by onehunglow

Roger lifey Im afraid posts nothing of consequence;he merely derides anyone slagging off the team/club/coach/Wales the language.He is utterly unable to have a meaningful discussion with like you and I.

If every post was basically the same,this site would be dead .No discusion means no interest. It is positive to ask questions. If nobody else will,I certainly will as Im not bothered about being "negative,unpopular or a vile and scum as some have referred to me.

If Lifey cannot stand to see discourse that he disagrees then its down to him to ignore.

The best posters are those with whom you can disagree ,and the more the better. We disagree on stuff and I'm not sure we'd resort to the tactics Lifey/Winston resort too. Bear in mind,I have been exchanging with lifey for 15 years,longer with Winston.They will tell you I have always slagged off every manager and every player whilst kicking the stadium cat in the nuts.

You're a great poster


Serious question.
Are there any pro Martin posters with whom you agree, even if your views on Martin differ ?
Just seems to me the only ones you really get on with are Dr P, AC, Vetch and a few others who are not in favour of Martin ?
Many of us err towards those with similar views so would not be that unusual ?
Not having a dig, just a genuine question ?

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Again some advice on 14:40 - May 5 with 870 viewsvetchonian

Again some advice on 14:32 - May 5 by STID2017

Serious question.
Are there any pro Martin posters with whom you agree, even if your views on Martin differ ?
Just seems to me the only ones you really get on with are Dr P, AC, Vetch and a few others who are not in favour of Martin ?
Many of us err towards those with similar views so would not be that unusual ?
Not having a dig, just a genuine question ?


I suppose I get labelled anti Martin because I am critical....just as those who were critical of Cooper but unlike many of Coopers critics I have no agenda based on Martin's place of origin or appearance.

I was on his case early doors beacuase so much was posted on here of how the football was so much better this season yet we were not winning or even creating chances.

I sat through a couple of bore fests at home saww pretty short passes but no penetration.

Like I say I dug intp MArtin and learnt a lot....45 games on thats 35 more than the 10 were we asked to give him I have seen nothing to say that next season wont end up with more of the same.

For a while I was wavering as it seemed MArtin was changing .....but he does still seem to revert type and now it seems next season will also be one of transition as whispers abound pf Christie and Wolf not returning next season.

Yuo are right though as the saying goes "birds of a feather flock together" ......

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Again some advice on 14:49 - May 5 with 862 viewsSTID2017

Again some advice on 14:40 - May 5 by vetchonian

I suppose I get labelled anti Martin because I am critical....just as those who were critical of Cooper but unlike many of Coopers critics I have no agenda based on Martin's place of origin or appearance.

I was on his case early doors beacuase so much was posted on here of how the football was so much better this season yet we were not winning or even creating chances.

I sat through a couple of bore fests at home saww pretty short passes but no penetration.

Like I say I dug intp MArtin and learnt a lot....45 games on thats 35 more than the 10 were we asked to give him I have seen nothing to say that next season wont end up with more of the same.

For a while I was wavering as it seemed MArtin was changing .....but he does still seem to revert type and now it seems next season will also be one of transition as whispers abound pf Christie and Wolf not returning next season.

Yuo are right though as the saying goes "birds of a feather flock together" ......


Indeed.
Also hate the personal attacks on Cooper, Rooney and back in the day Graham Taylor and many others.
My personal feelings about what happened with Cooper are football related.
I don't care where he is from or what he looks like.
Same as any past or future manager.
It is what they do for us.
If Martin shaved off his beard and combed his hair the other way or was from Blackpool rather than Brighton, that would not make him a better or worse manager.
Common sense I suppose that I will post more favourably with those who favour Martin ( as I do ) but it gets silly when people start talking about gangs.
If Builthy, Fireboy and others start slagging off Martin come August, my view will still be the same until I see something that persuades me to change
EDIT - meant Martin of course
[Post edited 5 May 2022 14:52]

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Again some advice on 14:52 - May 5 with 856 viewsDr_Parnassus

Again some advice on 14:40 - May 5 by vetchonian

I suppose I get labelled anti Martin because I am critical....just as those who were critical of Cooper but unlike many of Coopers critics I have no agenda based on Martin's place of origin or appearance.

I was on his case early doors beacuase so much was posted on here of how the football was so much better this season yet we were not winning or even creating chances.

I sat through a couple of bore fests at home saww pretty short passes but no penetration.

Like I say I dug intp MArtin and learnt a lot....45 games on thats 35 more than the 10 were we asked to give him I have seen nothing to say that next season wont end up with more of the same.

For a while I was wavering as it seemed MArtin was changing .....but he does still seem to revert type and now it seems next season will also be one of transition as whispers abound pf Christie and Wolf not returning next season.

Yuo are right though as the saying goes "birds of a feather flock together" ......


Yep, I’m not anti-Martin, I’m anti-rubbish.

If Martin starts managing us properly then I will be very much pro Martin. I’m afraid after writing off a year of football to get to 15th position with only one of these “transition games” left, with almost no glaring issues fixed that were there 8 months ago is something I do not find worthy of praise.

I react to what’s going on. I believe this side is top 6 quality. Accepting 15th and such abject tactical awareness and senseless system set up is not something I can see myself doing.

I was hoping he would change and adapt (permanently not just to buy some results), in fact I backed him to do just that. But he seems extremely stubborn and blind to the errors in the system so I have very little faith he will change.

That is the reason I feel the club is better off going in a different direction. I’ve seen nothing to suggest he can mount a promotion challenge, which of course is what we should be pushing for.

3 seasons in management with very good squads for the level they are at, yet his best ever finish is 13th. The second he leaves MK Dons they are transformed into a side that finished 1 point off automatic promotion such is the quality of the squad he had.

It’s a no from me.

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Again some advice on 15:07 - May 5 with 829 viewsTreforys_Jack

Again some advice on 14:52 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus

Yep, I’m not anti-Martin, I’m anti-rubbish.

If Martin starts managing us properly then I will be very much pro Martin. I’m afraid after writing off a year of football to get to 15th position with only one of these “transition games” left, with almost no glaring issues fixed that were there 8 months ago is something I do not find worthy of praise.

I react to what’s going on. I believe this side is top 6 quality. Accepting 15th and such abject tactical awareness and senseless system set up is not something I can see myself doing.

I was hoping he would change and adapt (permanently not just to buy some results), in fact I backed him to do just that. But he seems extremely stubborn and blind to the errors in the system so I have very little faith he will change.

That is the reason I feel the club is better off going in a different direction. I’ve seen nothing to suggest he can mount a promotion challenge, which of course is what we should be pushing for.

3 seasons in management with very good squads for the level they are at, yet his best ever finish is 13th. The second he leaves MK Dons they are transformed into a side that finished 1 point off automatic promotion such is the quality of the squad he had.

It’s a no from me.


Despite what you say, there are very few pro RM posters on here at the moment.
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Again some advice on 15:28 - May 5 with 802 viewsonehunglow

Again some advice on 14:32 - May 5 by STID2017

Serious question.
Are there any pro Martin posters with whom you agree, even if your views on Martin differ ?
Just seems to me the only ones you really get on with are Dr P, AC, Vetch and a few others who are not in favour of Martin ?
Many of us err towards those with similar views so would not be that unusual ?
Not having a dig, just a genuine question ?


Serious questions eh.
I know not who are PRO Martin .I don't know,neither do you,if posts are not made with ulterior motives.
I most certainly do not believe our fan base accepts our club slagged off by the coach a not being somehow proper. No previous manager has publically said that.

Unlike some I do not keep a list of posters of what they believe.

I detest what angry says about Police but on other isues I agree and disagree.

Try it.

I detest failure and this season has been just that


Serious answer.

If you want to pose any more serious questions on footnball or world matters PM me

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Again some advice on 15:44 - May 5 with 788 viewsDr_Parnassus

Again some advice on 15:07 - May 5 by Treforys_Jack

Despite what you say, there are very few pro RM posters on here at the moment.


On this thread or on this forum?

I think there is a hardcore pro Martin group on here that attack anyone who says anything they deem remotely “negative”. The reality of where we are, how we are performing and Martin’s obliviousness to it all just appears to be an ‘irritating inconvenience’ to them as opposed to a reality check.

I genuinely think we could have been relegated this season and they would have been fine with it. “A blessing in disguise and a necessary step to rebuild” I’m sure would be the angle of approach for it.

People are entitled to be as pro Martin in the face of such rubbish as they like by the way. But it’s important to note they aren’t the ones being attacked, those that are being attacked are those that say it how it is and are unhappy with the way things are going.

I fully expect, should we beat QPR this week, that the narrative will be set for the summer that we are in ‘good shape’. We are of course anything but.

I did some working out earlier as I saw a discussion surrounding Coopers alleged reliance on Ayews goals last season. The fact is Martin relies on Piroes goals more than twice as much… and we are 15th with them. He is heavily rumoured to be heading off this summer. Where does that leave us?

This season - 19 points less without Piroes goals.
Last season - 9 points less without Ayews goals

I’m very concerned for us and personally think we are in terrible shape.

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Again some advice on 15:52 - May 5 with 780 viewsonehunglow

Again some advice on 15:44 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus

On this thread or on this forum?

I think there is a hardcore pro Martin group on here that attack anyone who says anything they deem remotely “negative”. The reality of where we are, how we are performing and Martin’s obliviousness to it all just appears to be an ‘irritating inconvenience’ to them as opposed to a reality check.

I genuinely think we could have been relegated this season and they would have been fine with it. “A blessing in disguise and a necessary step to rebuild” I’m sure would be the angle of approach for it.

People are entitled to be as pro Martin in the face of such rubbish as they like by the way. But it’s important to note they aren’t the ones being attacked, those that are being attacked are those that say it how it is and are unhappy with the way things are going.

I fully expect, should we beat QPR this week, that the narrative will be set for the summer that we are in ‘good shape’. We are of course anything but.

I did some working out earlier as I saw a discussion surrounding Coopers alleged reliance on Ayews goals last season. The fact is Martin relies on Piroes goals more than twice as much… and we are 15th with them. He is heavily rumoured to be heading off this summer. Where does that leave us?

This season - 19 points less without Piroes goals.
Last season - 9 points less without Ayews goals

I’m very concerned for us and personally think we are in terrible shape.


Dr
I do not really believe people are pro Martin at all.
Ive read leaders on the site then see "support" for Martin and his project.

We are woeful.Nowt wrong with saying that. It is how we correct matters.

There have been NO positives this season. Nada.

Piroe is not as he will be exiting soon and good lick to this tremendous lad who was dumped unceremoniously at the start of the season.

We have utterly neglected young players especially Joseph who is quick and physical ,as is Garrick,criminally out in Plymouth pastures.

We have ended shipping 3 goal leads then trashed 5-1.That is no progress,no transition at least not in a progressional sense.

We will see a considerable drop off in numbers next season and if the current coach is still here come October,alarm bells will truly be ringing loud. By Christmas it will be too late.

Finally, the most disappointing season in years,one where we have conceded obscene goals and been trashed as we have not been for many years.

Player of the season for me.young Cabango;not the greatest but a real warrior and one who has been shockingly messed around.

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Again some advice on 16:10 - May 5 with 763 viewsswan65split

Again some advice on 12:21 - May 5 by Sirjohnalot

Plan is to retire up here in our early 50s. Don’t want to work ourselves to death,


I had to give up a well paid/secure job at an early age, and take another path, no money, but involved meeting/dealing with people from across the globe, took me to places (in life) I would never have contemplated, or thought I would achieve, there's more to life than money, and we never know what's around the corner, take it from someone who knows.
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Again some advice on 16:14 - May 5 with 758 viewsvetchonian

Again some advice on 15:44 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus

On this thread or on this forum?

I think there is a hardcore pro Martin group on here that attack anyone who says anything they deem remotely “negative”. The reality of where we are, how we are performing and Martin’s obliviousness to it all just appears to be an ‘irritating inconvenience’ to them as opposed to a reality check.

I genuinely think we could have been relegated this season and they would have been fine with it. “A blessing in disguise and a necessary step to rebuild” I’m sure would be the angle of approach for it.

People are entitled to be as pro Martin in the face of such rubbish as they like by the way. But it’s important to note they aren’t the ones being attacked, those that are being attacked are those that say it how it is and are unhappy with the way things are going.

I fully expect, should we beat QPR this week, that the narrative will be set for the summer that we are in ‘good shape’. We are of course anything but.

I did some working out earlier as I saw a discussion surrounding Coopers alleged reliance on Ayews goals last season. The fact is Martin relies on Piroes goals more than twice as much… and we are 15th with them. He is heavily rumoured to be heading off this summer. Where does that leave us?

This season - 19 points less without Piroes goals.
Last season - 9 points less without Ayews goals

I’m very concerned for us and personally think we are in terrible shape.


Forget it Doc P

I got involved in a discussion on anther thread re Piroe and his goals and someone kept arguing those goals could have been scored by a.n.other striker who we may have signed in place of Piroe...I gave up in the end.

I do fesar even Piroe is coming out with this speak saying how we "can win the league" with a full preaseason and signing players"

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/

As you say 35 games beyond the target many set on here when those of us started calling Martin out little has changed to give me the confidence we will see improvments next season. Yes there have been some tweaks as I have poiinted out elsewhere but nothing that shows we will be promotion contenders .

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Again some advice on 16:26 - May 5 with 734 viewsmagicdaps10

Again some advice on 15:52 - May 5 by onehunglow

Dr
I do not really believe people are pro Martin at all.
Ive read leaders on the site then see "support" for Martin and his project.

We are woeful.Nowt wrong with saying that. It is how we correct matters.

There have been NO positives this season. Nada.

Piroe is not as he will be exiting soon and good lick to this tremendous lad who was dumped unceremoniously at the start of the season.

We have utterly neglected young players especially Joseph who is quick and physical ,as is Garrick,criminally out in Plymouth pastures.

We have ended shipping 3 goal leads then trashed 5-1.That is no progress,no transition at least not in a progressional sense.

We will see a considerable drop off in numbers next season and if the current coach is still here come October,alarm bells will truly be ringing loud. By Christmas it will be too late.

Finally, the most disappointing season in years,one where we have conceded obscene goals and been trashed as we have not been for many years.

Player of the season for me.young Cabango;not the greatest but a real warrior and one who has been shockingly messed around.


There certainly has been positives, boils down to the individual but doesn't cement each ones expectancy as being right or wrong.

As it stands I would expect a better season next year but unfortunately we don't know what the summer will bring so for me to expect 100% a better season next season... It would be Foolish of me to expect it at this early stage.

I am going to give you compliment here OHL, there are no agendas with you Swansea City wise although I think you are hasty on times, you will still be calling out Martin if we are bottom or if we are top of the league, you will still call him out from your own takings on him... Your consistent and have no agenda towards any individual at the club and that can only be congratulated.

As I say, the summer will have a big part to play on any forthcoming season so as much as I expect from how this season as progressed to expect a better one next season, I will as any decent football person be it a fan or a manager, I will see what happens during the summer.

Our recent finances will suggest player/s will move on and again that is another indication as to where we are as a club. The summer will be interesting and what Martin does for the first few months of that season will certainly make or break him after his first season here.

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Again some advice on 16:45 - May 5 with 700 viewsTreforys_Jack

Again some advice on 16:26 - May 5 by magicdaps10

There certainly has been positives, boils down to the individual but doesn't cement each ones expectancy as being right or wrong.

As it stands I would expect a better season next year but unfortunately we don't know what the summer will bring so for me to expect 100% a better season next season... It would be Foolish of me to expect it at this early stage.

I am going to give you compliment here OHL, there are no agendas with you Swansea City wise although I think you are hasty on times, you will still be calling out Martin if we are bottom or if we are top of the league, you will still call him out from your own takings on him... Your consistent and have no agenda towards any individual at the club and that can only be congratulated.

As I say, the summer will have a big part to play on any forthcoming season so as much as I expect from how this season as progressed to expect a better one next season, I will as any decent football person be it a fan or a manager, I will see what happens during the summer.

Our recent finances will suggest player/s will move on and again that is another indication as to where we are as a club. The summer will be interesting and what Martin does for the first few months of that season will certainly make or break him after his first season here.


It's an achievement to not have an agenda ? C'mon daps you have higher standards than that surely.
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Again some advice on 16:46 - May 5 with 700 viewsSirjohnalot

Again some advice on 16:10 - May 5 by swan65split

I had to give up a well paid/secure job at an early age, and take another path, no money, but involved meeting/dealing with people from across the globe, took me to places (in life) I would never have contemplated, or thought I would achieve, there's more to life than money, and we never know what's around the corner, take it from someone who knows.


Both my wife and I have very stressful jobs, long hours, hard work, lots of pressure. Hard work for next 8 years or so then wig will be hung up.

Buy some land. Next to a beach or Loch, build our own house, buy a little boat and go diving,in the loch and running in the mountains, travel round Scotland with dogs, do a bit of volunteering in animal centres and relax.
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Again some advice on 17:07 - May 5 with 686 viewsKeithHaynes

Again some advice on 14:26 - May 5 by onehunglow

Roger lifey Im afraid posts nothing of consequence;he merely derides anyone slagging off the team/club/coach/Wales the language.He is utterly unable to have a meaningful discussion with like you and I.

If every post was basically the same,this site would be dead .No discusion means no interest. It is positive to ask questions. If nobody else will,I certainly will as Im not bothered about being "negative,unpopular or a vile and scum as some have referred to me.

If Lifey cannot stand to see discourse that he disagrees then its down to him to ignore.

The best posters are those with whom you can disagree ,and the more the better. We disagree on stuff and I'm not sure we'd resort to the tactics Lifey/Winston resort too. Bear in mind,I have been exchanging with lifey for 15 years,longer with Winston.They will tell you I have always slagged off every manager and every player whilst kicking the stadium cat in the nuts.

You're a great poster


You are saying the vast majority of your posts aren’t accusing Martin of being a fraud etc ?

A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
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Again some advice on 17:11 - May 5 with 684 viewsmagicdaps10

Again some advice on 16:45 - May 5 by Treforys_Jack

It's an achievement to not have an agenda ? C'mon daps you have higher standards than that surely.


On this forum then I would have to say yes 😬
I adapt my expectancy, that is the word I would use rather than standard to my surroundings these days, I think it's just a way of life these days without thinking in my head "what the...." 😁

Don't judge me for it 🤣

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Again some advice on 17:17 - May 5 with 665 viewstrampie

Again some advice on 16:46 - May 5 by Sirjohnalot

Both my wife and I have very stressful jobs, long hours, hard work, lots of pressure. Hard work for next 8 years or so then wig will be hung up.

Buy some land. Next to a beach or Loch, build our own house, buy a little boat and go diving,in the loch and running in the mountains, travel round Scotland with dogs, do a bit of volunteering in animal centres and relax.


Sounds like a good plan, hope the plan comes to pass.

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Again some advice on 17:27 - May 5 with 1247 viewsmagicdaps10

Again some advice on 16:46 - May 5 by Sirjohnalot

Both my wife and I have very stressful jobs, long hours, hard work, lots of pressure. Hard work for next 8 years or so then wig will be hung up.

Buy some land. Next to a beach or Loch, build our own house, buy a little boat and go diving,in the loch and running in the mountains, travel round Scotland with dogs, do a bit of volunteering in animal centres and relax.


Hope that works out for you, sounds brilliant.

Ever thought on the West Coast of Ireland? A lot slower placed with plenty of what you are looking for in your description.

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Again some advice on 17:33 - May 5 with 1223 viewsonehunglow

Again some advice on 12:21 - May 5 by Sirjohnalot

Plan is to retire up here in our early 50s. Don’t want to work ourselves to death,


Do not stick to retirement plans as by the time you reach that age your life will change and only then will you know what path your lives can take.

I had all sorts of plans and wifeys s cancer killed them stone dead. We moved on ,thank be to Clatterbridge Cancer centre but many of those of mine I wanted to spend time with have gone .

You are well paid. So was I.

I jacked it in at 50 and took an opportunity . It paid off financially. You don’t need much in retirement unless you have needy kids. Mine are just dandy and I’m well blessed


Do not suffer in any job as it will eat you up. Policing did me


Good luck anyway

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Again some advice on 17:46 - May 5 with 1219 viewsSirjohnalot

Again some advice on 17:33 - May 5 by onehunglow

Do not stick to retirement plans as by the time you reach that age your life will change and only then will you know what path your lives can take.

I had all sorts of plans and wifeys s cancer killed them stone dead. We moved on ,thank be to Clatterbridge Cancer centre but many of those of mine I wanted to spend time with have gone .

You are well paid. So was I.

I jacked it in at 50 and took an opportunity . It paid off financially. You don’t need much in retirement unless you have needy kids. Mine are just dandy and I’m well blessed


Do not suffer in any job as it will eat you up. Policing did me


Good luck anyway


Thank goodness for our wonderful NHS.

Similar thing happened with my mum’s illness which scuppered their retirement. Exactly why we don’t want to work into our 60s. I’ve seen colleagues work into 60s and collapsing with heart attacks. Don’t want to be working on multiple month trials staying away from home for ever more.

Not thought of West Coast of Ireland but will certainly have a look. We just love Scotland. We not City people, somewhere with the beauty of Glen Coe eg. The idea of waking up and seeing the Scottish mountains and lochs or the sea is intoxicating
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Again some advice on 17:56 - May 5 with 1203 viewstrampie

Again some advice on 17:46 - May 5 by Sirjohnalot

Thank goodness for our wonderful NHS.

Similar thing happened with my mum’s illness which scuppered their retirement. Exactly why we don’t want to work into our 60s. I’ve seen colleagues work into 60s and collapsing with heart attacks. Don’t want to be working on multiple month trials staying away from home for ever more.

Not thought of West Coast of Ireland but will certainly have a look. We just love Scotland. We not City people, somewhere with the beauty of Glen Coe eg. The idea of waking up and seeing the Scottish mountains and lochs or the sea is intoxicating


Unfortunately the NHS is not wonderful anymore.

You can get what you describe in Wales, I'm surrounded by acres and acres of green fields and woodlands, no lakes or lochs on my patch mind just a couple of ponds.

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