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Euros Final 16:04 - Jul 31 with 7592 viewsNotLoyal

England v Germany.

5pm

Anyhoo watching it ?
[Post edited 31 Jul 2022 16:07]

OK I've changed it.
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Euros Final on 13:49 - Aug 1 with 1239 viewsSirjohnalot

Euros Final on 11:42 - Aug 1 by Badlands

We are not the same country.
We speak a different language.
As far as football is concerned we are a different country.
We have the same government because it was forced on us in the past.
I have the same concerns worries as people in similar jobs and social strata as my friends in Romania, Portugal, Spain, Hungary, France etc.
We really don’t have the same mentality about most things .. .Wales does not define itself by ruling waves or conquering others.
What you describe is a quisling attitude to foreign dominance and control. Were that not the case Scotland would not have to seek permission from Westminster which will always be controlled by England's MPs.
As for sporting entertainment I gained far more satisfaction from watching the finals of the rugby 7s.


I'd have to disagree with you, we are very much the same country.

Overwhelming majority in South Wales don't speak Welsh, I did it to GCSE but chose other subjects at A level and due to my own laziness, did not continue with it.

Of course, we have different sides in sport, but that's like saying that Swansea and Cardiff or Barry Town and Newport County are different due to different sides

How far back do you want to go ? The Gvnt was forced upon us ? Do you really think people I represent in Inner City Manchester have any more love of this Gvnt that people in Neath or Swansea do ? I have more in common with some of the people I represent and the way we were both brought up than some posh person in Pennard. The similarities between the South Walians and the North West of England, Sheffield, Liverpool, etc are huge.

Can you honestly say most people in England (apart from the idiots going on about '2 World Wars and one world cup' define themselves by 'conquering people ? Its a stupid football chant, the same pathetic one we have about England being full of s.. and 'typical England, always cheating' I cringe when our fans sing it, same as decent England fans will cringe when the War Songs come out.

It is not a foreign dominance, we are part of the UK. I've been welcomed in the Manchester area, made a lot of lovely friends and was deeply affected by the bomb in the Manchester Arena as we had been there the week before and I knew people who were there (thankfully ok)

I ran the Manchetser 1/2 marathon the week after, and the warmth from the people was incredible.

England is a wonderful country, as is Wales. England has arrogant idiots, as does Wales, I've seen a lot more racism from the Welsh to the English than the other way round. I'm not talking 'sheep songs' at the football (same as our anti english songs) but real hatred. It's very destructive.


'Conquering others ?'
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Euros Final on 14:03 - Aug 1 with 1207 viewsonehunglow

Euros Final on 13:49 - Aug 1 by Sirjohnalot

I'd have to disagree with you, we are very much the same country.

Overwhelming majority in South Wales don't speak Welsh, I did it to GCSE but chose other subjects at A level and due to my own laziness, did not continue with it.

Of course, we have different sides in sport, but that's like saying that Swansea and Cardiff or Barry Town and Newport County are different due to different sides

How far back do you want to go ? The Gvnt was forced upon us ? Do you really think people I represent in Inner City Manchester have any more love of this Gvnt that people in Neath or Swansea do ? I have more in common with some of the people I represent and the way we were both brought up than some posh person in Pennard. The similarities between the South Walians and the North West of England, Sheffield, Liverpool, etc are huge.

Can you honestly say most people in England (apart from the idiots going on about '2 World Wars and one world cup' define themselves by 'conquering people ? Its a stupid football chant, the same pathetic one we have about England being full of s.. and 'typical England, always cheating' I cringe when our fans sing it, same as decent England fans will cringe when the War Songs come out.

It is not a foreign dominance, we are part of the UK. I've been welcomed in the Manchester area, made a lot of lovely friends and was deeply affected by the bomb in the Manchester Arena as we had been there the week before and I knew people who were there (thankfully ok)

I ran the Manchetser 1/2 marathon the week after, and the warmth from the people was incredible.

England is a wonderful country, as is Wales. England has arrogant idiots, as does Wales, I've seen a lot more racism from the Welsh to the English than the other way round. I'm not talking 'sheep songs' at the football (same as our anti english songs) but real hatred. It's very destructive.


'Conquering others ?'


Brilliant reply that should end this shocking posting of naked hate.

If you pop over to Wirral !jon,I could run you into Birkenhead Park RFC …You d get my drift.

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Euros Final on 14:08 - Aug 1 with 1199 viewsraynor94

Euros Final on 11:42 - Aug 1 by Badlands

We are not the same country.
We speak a different language.
As far as football is concerned we are a different country.
We have the same government because it was forced on us in the past.
I have the same concerns worries as people in similar jobs and social strata as my friends in Romania, Portugal, Spain, Hungary, France etc.
We really don’t have the same mentality about most things .. .Wales does not define itself by ruling waves or conquering others.
What you describe is a quisling attitude to foreign dominance and control. Were that not the case Scotland would not have to seek permission from Westminster which will always be controlled by England's MPs.
As for sporting entertainment I gained far more satisfaction from watching the finals of the rugby 7s.


We don't speak a different language, as you well know

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Euros Final on 14:11 - Aug 1 with 1184 viewsonehunglow

Euros Final on 14:08 - Aug 1 by raynor94

We don't speak a different language, as you well know


Well,80 per cent have English as first language.

We are exchanging views in it.

Rather ironic really.


Are these people mainly out of towers Ray,ie,not Swansea people.

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Euros Final on 14:18 - Aug 1 with 1164 viewslifelong

Euros Final on 14:03 - Aug 1 by onehunglow

Brilliant reply that should end this shocking posting of naked hate.

If you pop over to Wirral !jon,I could run you into Birkenhead Park RFC …You d get my drift.

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Watch him John, he’ll be inviting you out for a meal next.😄
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Euros Final on 14:22 - Aug 1 with 1167 viewsSirjohnalot

Euros Final on 14:18 - Aug 1 by lifelong

Watch him John, he’ll be inviting you out for a meal next.😄


OHL and I have had a lot of disagreements, be great to have beer together, always more fun chatting to someone who you disagree with about things.

Can't blame him, man, woman, beast, none can resist my short, dark and handsome charm
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Euros Final on 14:27 - Aug 1 with 1161 viewsbuilthjack

Euros Final on 14:22 - Aug 1 by Sirjohnalot

OHL and I have had a lot of disagreements, be great to have beer together, always more fun chatting to someone who you disagree with about things.

Can't blame him, man, woman, beast, none can resist my short, dark and handsome charm


He will be the one with the ABE shirt on.

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Euros Final on 14:34 - Aug 1 with 1150 viewsonehunglow

Euros Final on 14:22 - Aug 1 by Sirjohnalot

OHL and I have had a lot of disagreements, be great to have beer together, always more fun chatting to someone who you disagree with about things.

Can't blame him, man, woman, beast, none can resist my short, dark and handsome charm


I know what Roger will have posted. He seeks to poison relationships. His chum from Cimla was better at it though.
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Fingers crossed

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Euros Final on 14:44 - Aug 1 with 1143 viewsSirjohnalot

Euros Final on 14:34 - Aug 1 by onehunglow

I know what Roger will have posted. He seeks to poison relationships. His chum from Cimla was better at it though.
DM me when you intend getting your ticket. Do not buy one for me and have me see you to collect it. As missus still rather unwell .
Fingers crossed

Check me out on Facebook and disclose nothing about our tryst


Sure, just doing some work, will let you know.
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Euros Final on 21:06 - Aug 1 with 1046 viewsReslovenSwan1

Euros Final on 13:49 - Aug 1 by Sirjohnalot

I'd have to disagree with you, we are very much the same country.

Overwhelming majority in South Wales don't speak Welsh, I did it to GCSE but chose other subjects at A level and due to my own laziness, did not continue with it.

Of course, we have different sides in sport, but that's like saying that Swansea and Cardiff or Barry Town and Newport County are different due to different sides

How far back do you want to go ? The Gvnt was forced upon us ? Do you really think people I represent in Inner City Manchester have any more love of this Gvnt that people in Neath or Swansea do ? I have more in common with some of the people I represent and the way we were both brought up than some posh person in Pennard. The similarities between the South Walians and the North West of England, Sheffield, Liverpool, etc are huge.

Can you honestly say most people in England (apart from the idiots going on about '2 World Wars and one world cup' define themselves by 'conquering people ? Its a stupid football chant, the same pathetic one we have about England being full of s.. and 'typical England, always cheating' I cringe when our fans sing it, same as decent England fans will cringe when the War Songs come out.

It is not a foreign dominance, we are part of the UK. I've been welcomed in the Manchester area, made a lot of lovely friends and was deeply affected by the bomb in the Manchester Arena as we had been there the week before and I knew people who were there (thankfully ok)

I ran the Manchetser 1/2 marathon the week after, and the warmth from the people was incredible.

England is a wonderful country, as is Wales. England has arrogant idiots, as does Wales, I've seen a lot more racism from the Welsh to the English than the other way round. I'm not talking 'sheep songs' at the football (same as our anti english songs) but real hatred. It's very destructive.


'Conquering others ?'


Sheep slurs up close and personal one on one are very unpleasant and illegal and very common. It also generates ethnic hatred and should not treated lightly. I want the same protection as a Black man Asian or Jew because we are all equal. Your experience may have been around a coffee machine in legal offices or from 500 metres.

Swansea chants are not racist as they are not personal. English ones are in my opinion. In the case of black people 95% or more might find monkey slurs offensive. In the case of Welsh people perhaps upto 50% find sheep slurs offensive. The percentages are not the issue.
[Post edited 1 Aug 2022 21:13]

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Euros Final on 21:11 - Aug 1 with 1026 viewsSirjohnalot

Euros Final on 21:06 - Aug 1 by ReslovenSwan1

Sheep slurs up close and personal one on one are very unpleasant and illegal and very common. It also generates ethnic hatred and should not treated lightly. I want the same protection as a Black man Asian or Jew because we are all equal. Your experience may have been around a coffee machine in legal offices or from 500 metres.

Swansea chants are not racist as they are not personal. English ones are in my opinion. In the case of black people 95% or more might find monkey slurs offensive. In the case of Welsh people perhaps upto 50% find sheep slurs offensive. The percentages are not the issue.
[Post edited 1 Aug 2022 21:13]


With respect, how do you know what my experiences are ? You’ve no idea what I’ve experienced or my background or seen.

Of course someone giving sheep chants in your face is racist, same as anti English screaming in peoples ‘ face that I saw a lot in Uni.

Anyone experiencing racist insults like that would be taken seriously.
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Euros Final on 21:40 - Aug 1 with 1002 viewsKeithHaynes

Euros Final on 21:11 - Aug 1 by Sirjohnalot

With respect, how do you know what my experiences are ? You’ve no idea what I’ve experienced or my background or seen.

Of course someone giving sheep chants in your face is racist, same as anti English screaming in peoples ‘ face that I saw a lot in Uni.

Anyone experiencing racist insults like that would be taken seriously.


What type of coffee machine was it ?

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Euros Final on 21:50 - Aug 1 with 986 viewsSirjohnalot

Euros Final on 21:40 - Aug 1 by KeithHaynes

What type of coffee machine was it ?


I’ve got a really posh Krupps, bean to mug one. My favourite possession. Coffee is my weakness. Easily give up drinking, or chocolate, but I love coffee
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Euros Final on 23:05 - Aug 1 with 941 viewsKeithHaynes

Euros Final on 21:50 - Aug 1 by Sirjohnalot

I’ve got a really posh Krupps, bean to mug one. My favourite possession. Coffee is my weakness. Easily give up drinking, or chocolate, but I love coffee


They do beer as well, I’m looking at it but over here it’s twice the price.

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Euros Final on 23:34 - Aug 1 with 927 viewsCatullus

Euros Final on 21:40 - Aug 1 by KeithHaynes

What type of coffee machine was it ?


One with the filter missing?

John, I'ma coffee lover too. I more or less gave up beer but nothing much happens until I've had my two cups of filter coffee!

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Euros Final on 08:57 - Aug 2 with 861 viewsonehunglow

Euros Final on 21:50 - Aug 1 by Sirjohnalot

I’ve got a really posh Krupps, bean to mug one. My favourite possession. Coffee is my weakness. Easily give up drinking, or chocolate, but I love coffee


In working class Wales,Camp coffee was de rigour as a treat for visiting nosey bluddy neighbours when coming to borrow a cup of sugar .

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Euros Final on 21:50 - Aug 2 with 804 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Euros Final on 14:08 - Aug 1 by raynor94

We don't speak a different language, as you well know


I know quite a few people who’d happily live in a Welsh speaking only Wales. They’re the opposite of what being Welsh truly means - being outgoing, hospitable, open, innovative - they are just small minded bigots who want to turn this wonderful country into a closed shop.
And they’ll communicate with tourists how? Expect them to all learn Welsh? Idiots.

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Euros Final on 22:09 - Aug 2 with 795 viewsunion_jack

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I know quite a few people who’d happily live in a Welsh speaking only Wales. They’re the opposite of what being Welsh truly means - being outgoing, hospitable, open, innovative - they are just small minded bigots who want to turn this wonderful country into a closed shop.
And they’ll communicate with tourists how? Expect them to all learn Welsh? Idiots.


Tourists? What tourists?!

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Euros Final on 22:27 - Aug 2 with 768 viewslifelong

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I know quite a few people who’d happily live in a Welsh speaking only Wales. They’re the opposite of what being Welsh truly means - being outgoing, hospitable, open, innovative - they are just small minded bigots who want to turn this wonderful country into a closed shop.
And they’ll communicate with tourists how? Expect them to all learn Welsh? Idiots.


I know nobody who wants to live in a Welsh speaking only Wales, I know quite a few Welsh speakers who don’t want the language to die out though, unlike some on here.
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Euros Final on 14:37 - Aug 3 with 702 viewsBadlands

Euros Final on 22:27 - Aug 2 by lifelong

I know nobody who wants to live in a Welsh speaking only Wales, I know quite a few Welsh speakers who don’t want the language to die out though, unlike some on here.


I had forgotten how many union rag waving, gas lit corgi's we have following the Swans.

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Euros Final on 14:59 - Aug 3 with 671 viewsSirjohnalot

Euros Final on 14:37 - Aug 3 by Badlands

I had forgotten how many union rag waving, gas lit corgi's we have following the Swans.


Completely disagree....;

It's 'Gas Safe' now isn't it ?
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Euros Final on 17:47 - Aug 3 with 617 viewsonehunglow

If people do not like England then play in the league of Wales .that way,we can squabble in Welsh. ThecGogs would really welcome southerners with their form of Welsh.

No wonder some English fans suggest this
[Post edited 3 Aug 2022 17:49]

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Euros Final on 17:47 - Aug 3 by onehunglow

If people do not like England then play in the league of Wales .that way,we can squabble in Welsh. ThecGogs would really welcome southerners with their form of Welsh.

No wonder some English fans suggest this
[Post edited 3 Aug 2022 17:49]


I want England to lose like you want Cardiff to lose. Both are our neighbours . It is football culture. Swansea belong in the English leagues because the club were close to being founding members. It is a legal entitlement and any moves to boot the club out would be discriminatory on the basis of race / ethnicity.

Some English fans suggest this because they are bigots. Some English fans use racial slurs which are tolerated by the authorities and TV stations. You can abuse Welsh fans a footballers as long as they are not Welsh Asian or Black . I belief Swansea city players have been disproportionately more targeted due to the propensity of sheep slurs at stadiums. Think about it. Cabango, Whittaker, Williams and Dhanda in one season 4 separate events. Name another team that has had this level of abuse.

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Euros Final on 18:58 - Aug 3 with 572 viewsraynor94

Euros Final on 18:32 - Aug 3 by ReslovenSwan1

I want England to lose like you want Cardiff to lose. Both are our neighbours . It is football culture. Swansea belong in the English leagues because the club were close to being founding members. It is a legal entitlement and any moves to boot the club out would be discriminatory on the basis of race / ethnicity.

Some English fans suggest this because they are bigots. Some English fans use racial slurs which are tolerated by the authorities and TV stations. You can abuse Welsh fans a footballers as long as they are not Welsh Asian or Black . I belief Swansea city players have been disproportionately more targeted due to the propensity of sheep slurs at stadiums. Think about it. Cabango, Whittaker, Williams and Dhanda in one season 4 separate events. Name another team that has had this level of abuse.


We were nowhere near being founder members!

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Euros Final on 19:24 - Aug 3 with 543 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Euros Final on 14:59 - Aug 3 by Sirjohnalot

Completely disagree....;

It's 'Gas Safe' now isn't it ?


He’s gaslighting .

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