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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs 11:34 - Aug 5 with 6402 viewsguthrieintherain

There is an an article on the BBC reporting that we cannot compete with the majority of clubs in our League.
States we have to do things a different way.

I thought I read something on here recently that stated we have the 7th or 8th biggest budget in the division.

Is this Russ trying to play down expectations or getting his excuses in early.
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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:04 - Aug 5 with 726 viewsmagicdaps10

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 20:50 - Aug 5 by lifelong

Your last paragraph is nothing but a pathetic attempt to wind up our fans.

What do you get out of doing that?


He hardly goes to games, he follows us from a distance now.

I find that very disrespecting of fans who go week in week out or as regular as they can. I personally think the majority of our fans who get behind the team are a credit to our club as shown by the amount we took to Rotherham last weekend.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:04 - Aug 5 with 726 viewsraynor94

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 20:58 - Aug 5 by vetchonian

this thread is as a result of Martin trotting out more excuses.

I havent forgotten where we came from but I do know back then we werent selling players to premier league clubs for 12m neither did we have a stroke force valued at £25m
.


Do you think the club runs on fresh air, the profit made on Downes was much needed.

Hopefully we won't sell anyone else, Bennett leaving would be a big help

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:05 - Aug 5 with 721 viewsvetchonian

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 11:58 - Aug 5 by guthrieintherain

Yes he states there is a misconception that we are one of the big spenders can't remember exact wording.
Because we are an ex PL club we don't get parachute payments the majority of clubs don't get them Russ.

Even goes onto say that's why we couldn't attract other managers.
Coming out with this nonsense one game into the season is crazy.

If somebody could put the artricle up it would be appreciated.

Needs to get on with the job I gave him a bit of leeway last season as many did,but he needs to start delivering now.
[Post edited 5 Aug 2022 12:06]


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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:05 - Aug 5 with 720 viewsonehunglow

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 19:30 - Aug 5 by NotLoyal

I will.
This website covers numerous failings of the manager and will we have witnessed.
And also gives positives.
You don’t !


Can I be equally blunt without getting banned again.
If so,why do you not challenge what is said for Martin's defence and why do you tolerate such hate posts from the same posters without any questions asked. You know exactly whom I am referring to.

I could go on but I know you have other things to do,as I have.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:09 - Aug 5 with 715 viewsmagicdaps10

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:04 - Aug 5 by raynor94

Do you think the club runs on fresh air, the profit made on Downes was much needed.

Hopefully we won't sell anyone else, Bennett leaving would be a big help


Bennett leaving along with getting fringe players out is very much needed not only to bring replacements in but to cut the wage bill down also.

Regardless of what the wage bill is now, the weekly outgoings need to be cut a bit on top of bringing players in... Its the reality of where we are as the club, unreasonable predictions and demands from fans is not going to wash with the more understanding of fans.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:14 - Aug 5 with 693 viewsvetchonian

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 13:14 - Aug 5 by Sirjohnalot

Isn't it sensible for him to say that we have to be careful about what we spend in the transfer market and play down what we can afford. Alternative is saying that we are doing well financially, are able to compete with other teams in the league thereby pushing the fee of any player coming in up ?

This way, we are keeping things close to our chest, and dealing under the radar.


and also says to clubs interested in the likes of Piroe we need cash and will take any offet

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:15 - Aug 5 with 688 viewsWhiterockin

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:04 - Aug 5 by magicdaps10

He hardly goes to games, he follows us from a distance now.

I find that very disrespecting of fans who go week in week out or as regular as they can. I personally think the majority of our fans who get behind the team are a credit to our club as shown by the amount we took to Rotherham last weekend.


Did you hear any negativity regarding RM last weekend, before, during or after the game, I didn't is it only on here.
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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:19 - Aug 5 with 676 viewsonehunglow

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:04 - Aug 5 by magicdaps10

He hardly goes to games, he follows us from a distance now.

I find that very disrespecting of fans who go week in week out or as regular as they can. I personally think the majority of our fans who get behind the team are a credit to our club as shown by the amount we took to Rotherham last weekend.


Working in concert I see.
You're on ignore Roger.

He does follow from afar. Amazing really innit.

And after all these years,you'd wonder why he bothers with such pitiful posters.

Many,daps and Lifey,have long since abandoned our club,many are dead so show some respect ,basic human respect. Im hoping to be around for a while yet

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:23 - Aug 5 with 675 viewsmagicdaps10

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:15 - Aug 5 by Whiterockin

Did you hear any negativity regarding RM last weekend, before, during or after the game, I didn't is it only on here.


Not with anyone I know, most were happy with football being back and being able to go and watch games. I think there was disappointment that we didn't get the 3 points but ultimately happy that we actually picked up a point on our travels on the first game......there have been times in our past that games like these over the years that we have come away with a loss.

Its a new season, fans are more than likely upbeat and happy just to smell the grass again. There does seem to be a fair bit of downbeat on here by some, I think the fact that some can't or won't go to games has really sucked the enjoyment and happiness out of them and want to bring others down to their way of thinking.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:24 - Aug 5 with 671 viewsraynor94

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:14 - Aug 5 by vetchonian

and also says to clubs interested in the likes of Piroe we need cash and will take any offet


How do you deduce that after what we got for Downes

You really do have a low opinion of the club

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:24 - Aug 5 with 670 viewsQJumpingJack

back to the original discussion - the saddest part is that us fans were promised so much in the Summer of 2016 - "adding value to the club"


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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:29 - Aug 5 with 657 viewsWhiterockin

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:23 - Aug 5 by magicdaps10

Not with anyone I know, most were happy with football being back and being able to go and watch games. I think there was disappointment that we didn't get the 3 points but ultimately happy that we actually picked up a point on our travels on the first game......there have been times in our past that games like these over the years that we have come away with a loss.

Its a new season, fans are more than likely upbeat and happy just to smell the grass again. There does seem to be a fair bit of downbeat on here by some, I think the fact that some can't or won't go to games has really sucked the enjoyment and happiness out of them and want to bring others down to their way of thinking.


My view entirely, at the end of the day negativity on a message board means nothing and will change nothing. The team feeds off the positively and support of the crowd.
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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:30 - Aug 5 with 653 viewsmagicdaps10

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:19 - Aug 5 by onehunglow

Working in concert I see.
You're on ignore Roger.

He does follow from afar. Amazing really innit.

And after all these years,you'd wonder why he bothers with such pitiful posters.

Many,daps and Lifey,have long since abandoned our club,many are dead so show some respect ,basic human respect. Im hoping to be around for a while yet


I know some things you posted were not answers but I can easily explain them to you.

Its easy to follow from far away, social media allows you to do that from the comfort of your own home.

He bothers because he enjoys having arguments with posters, he needs it and he thrives on it..... Its what gets him up every morning and keeps him from going to bed at night.

Those who have since left us and are no longer with us would give anything to go and support our boys, smell the grass and chant in support of our boys on the pitch.......what they would give and I fully respect that.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:30 - Aug 5 with 633 viewsDr_Parnassus

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 20:50 - Aug 5 by lifelong

Your last paragraph is nothing but a pathetic attempt to wind up our fans.

What do you get out of doing that?


Everything I say, I mean.

If it winds you up, it winds you up. The fan base I was with in the Petty era certainly wouldn’t be happy to be relegated and allowing a manager to do what he likes with the club when it’s completely underperforming.

Wouldn’t stand for it. If that upsets you and you want to call me a troll then go for it. But deep down I’m sure a lot of people will agree with me.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:33 - Aug 5 with 622 viewsDr_Parnassus

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:04 - Aug 5 by magicdaps10

He hardly goes to games, he follows us from a distance now.

I find that very disrespecting of fans who go week in week out or as regular as they can. I personally think the majority of our fans who get behind the team are a credit to our club as shown by the amount we took to Rotherham last weekend.


Makes no difference where I live, my motives will always be for this club to do as well as it can.

If that compares to someone willing to accept mediocrity and the club suffer as a result just because they don’t want to lose face and call out a manager then yes, I put myself firmly above them in the fan stakes - regardless of where I live.

If you think that’s disrespectful then tough I guess. I find your intentional methods of setting the bar low for our club extremely disrespectful. That’s life.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:35 - Aug 5 with 618 viewsDr_Parnassus

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:29 - Aug 5 by Whiterockin

My view entirely, at the end of the day negativity on a message board means nothing and will change nothing. The team feeds off the positively and support of the crowd.


Why did it only come 15th then?

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:37 - Aug 5 with 615 viewsWhiterockin

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:35 - Aug 5 by Dr_Parnassus

Why did it only come 15th then?


Did anything anyone posted make any difference.
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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:38 - Aug 5 with 605 viewsDr_Parnassus

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:30 - Aug 5 by magicdaps10

I know some things you posted were not answers but I can easily explain them to you.

Its easy to follow from far away, social media allows you to do that from the comfort of your own home.

He bothers because he enjoys having arguments with posters, he needs it and he thrives on it..... Its what gets him up every morning and keeps him from going to bed at night.

Those who have since left us and are no longer with us would give anything to go and support our boys, smell the grass and chant in support of our boys on the pitch.......what they would give and I fully respect that.


Makes no odds to me who I argue with.

If I told you what gets me up in the morning and keeps me from going to bed at night you would start crying again that I’m bragging.

I argue with you because you are a troll, and always have been. You complain when we are 4th week in week out, then the very next season say you are just happy to be where we are.

You are the epitome of a forum troll. My views will always align with reality and can put those views across far better than you can ever dream of, hence why you shudder whenever you see the username.

Deal with it kiddo.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:39 - Aug 5 with 597 viewsDr_Parnassus

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:37 - Aug 5 by Whiterockin

Did anything anyone posted make any difference.


Any difference to what?

Why does this forum exist if all conversations have to make an impact.

As I said, if the crowd is incredibly positive (when not clearly booing of course) and the players feed off that… then why did we come 15th? And why haven’t we won in 7 games? And why has Russ never finished in the top half?

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:41 - Aug 5 with 597 viewsWhiterockin

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:39 - Aug 5 by Dr_Parnassus

Any difference to what?

Why does this forum exist if all conversations have to make an impact.

As I said, if the crowd is incredibly positive (when not clearly booing of course) and the players feed off that… then why did we come 15th? And why haven’t we won in 7 games? And why has Russ never finished in the top half?


As I said people can post what they like on a message board in the real world it means nothing
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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:43 - Aug 5 with 585 viewsmagicdaps10

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:38 - Aug 5 by Dr_Parnassus

Makes no odds to me who I argue with.

If I told you what gets me up in the morning and keeps me from going to bed at night you would start crying again that I’m bragging.

I argue with you because you are a troll, and always have been. You complain when we are 4th week in week out, then the very next season say you are just happy to be where we are.

You are the epitome of a forum troll. My views will always align with reality and can put those views across far better than you can ever dream of, hence why you shudder whenever you see the username.

Deal with it kiddo.


If that's what you believe to be the truth then so be it,
Who am I to argue with stubbornness, lack of control and denial.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:44 - Aug 5 with 580 viewsraynor94

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:38 - Aug 5 by Dr_Parnassus

Makes no odds to me who I argue with.

If I told you what gets me up in the morning and keeps me from going to bed at night you would start crying again that I’m bragging.

I argue with you because you are a troll, and always have been. You complain when we are 4th week in week out, then the very next season say you are just happy to be where we are.

You are the epitome of a forum troll. My views will always align with reality and can put those views across far better than you can ever dream of, hence why you shudder whenever you see the username.

Deal with it kiddo.


How ironic that last paragraph is, after your performance on Annis's board

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:46 - Aug 5 with 552 viewsDr_Parnassus

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:44 - Aug 5 by raynor94

How ironic that last paragraph is, after your performance on Annis's board


Which performance?

You mean accurately telling them about their financial issues? Accurately telling them about the Sala legal issues?

Something tells me you are making up nonsense again Rayns. Stop being silly there’s a good lad, you can’t compete.

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:48 - Aug 5 with 532 viewsDr_Parnassus

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:43 - Aug 5 by magicdaps10

If that's what you believe to be the truth then so be it,
Who am I to argue with stubbornness, lack of control and denial.


Nothing to believe there, it’s all factual.

Which do you dispute?

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Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:50 - Aug 5 with 513 viewsDr_Parnassus

Russ we can't compete financially with most Championship clubs on 21:41 - Aug 5 by Whiterockin

As I said people can post what they like on a message board in the real world it means nothing


Not sure who has said it does mean something? It simply means what you think and believe, it’s why these places exist - for fans to talk about the club and the goings on.

As I said, in all my almost 30 years supporting the club, I’ve never been so disillusioned with some of our fans as the last 3 seasons. It’s been shocking.

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