| And they ask why Wales votes labour 10:31 - Oct 25 with 6981 views | CountyJim |
Answers the question really doesn't it what a shower of s hit this Tory government is |  | | |  |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 08:42 - Oct 27 with 665 views | trampie |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 08:37 - Oct 27 by Sirjohnalot |
I’m not ignoring you, just getting in the car to go to work. Have a great day |
Yes you have a great day as well John, nice shooting the breeze with you. |  |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:35 - Oct 27 with 634 views | controversial_jack |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 08:31 - Oct 27 by trampie |
No I'm not saying people should be paid a similar wage irrespective of what job they do but the disparity between top earners and minimum wage is too great.
We have gone from one of the most equal societies pay gap wise in Europe/Western World to one of the most unequal society's pay gap wise after decades of Conservative and NuLabour rule we need to get back to being a fairer more just society.
We now live in a 'me me me' society which is very disappointing to see. |
You are correct. The gap between rich and poor has never been greater. It was at it's narrowest in 78, during the so called terrible 70s - how ironic. In effect, we have trickle up. |  | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:37 - Oct 27 with 635 views | onehunglow |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 08:11 - Oct 27 by Sirjohnalot |
Again you don’t answer the question as to how much highly skilled doctors should be paid ?
Yes, people who spend many years in training have sacrificed, time, social lives, receiving no wages etc in order to get where there are. I was lucky in that I was the last year (97) to get a grant for Uni, there are folk coming through in my profession with £50-£60,000 plus debt from university, doctors will be likewise if not more. How is that subsidised ? When I did my Solicitors qualification (lpc) in 2002 it costs £8,000 for a one year course. It is now around £15,000 !
May I ask you this ? We have a shortage of doctors and nurses in this country, many have left following Brexit. What is your solution to filling that void ? Obviously you would be adamantly against any person, in whatever circumstances coming over from abroad so they would have to be British (‘these people would turn their backs on their own kind…I don’t want people like that in this country ‘) . If they aren’t paid well, what do you do ?
People get paid according to the scarcity of their skills. |
Any surgeon that saves lives is worth anything demands
Anyone who goes through all the training and then faces the daily trauma doctors face is priceless.
For anyone to question this shows deep issues .
Most people who have had loved ones saved on an operating table wouldn’t be bothered if they were multi millionaires . I hope the one that saved my missus life is super wealthy ,lives in massive house and has exotic holidays that the ordinary Joe could never afford
Now footballers are different who ideally should be paid a fraction of what they get .They are pretty much irrevant in the grand scheme of things .
Not all doctors operate? No,but they are the ones who make crucial decisions
We are not worthy | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:48 - Oct 27 with 623 views | trampie |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:37 - Oct 27 by onehunglow |
Any surgeon that saves lives is worth anything demands
Anyone who goes through all the training and then faces the daily trauma doctors face is priceless.
For anyone to question this shows deep issues .
Most people who have had loved ones saved on an operating table wouldn’t be bothered if they were multi millionaires . I hope the one that saved my missus life is super wealthy ,lives in massive house and has exotic holidays that the ordinary Joe could never afford
Now footballers are different who ideally should be paid a fraction of what they get .They are pretty much irrevant in the grand scheme of things .
Not all doctors operate? No,but they are the ones who make crucial decisions
We are not worthy |
They shouldn't want their mouths filled with gold to save lives (they should be well paid absolutely) have they no decency, no moral compass, no compassion, an independent audit might find they are helping to bankrupt the NHS, it's emotional blackmail to want millions to do they job. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:04 - Oct 27 with 618 views | trampie |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:35 - Oct 27 by controversial_jack |
You are correct. The gap between rich and poor has never been greater. It was at it's narrowest in 78, during the so called terrible 70s - how ironic. In effect, we have trickle up. |
Indeed. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:13 - Oct 27 with 616 views | onehunglow |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:48 - Oct 27 by trampie |
They shouldn't want their mouths filled with gold to save lives (they should be well paid absolutely) have they no decency, no moral compass, no compassion, an independent audit might find they are helping to bankrupt the NHS, it's emotional blackmail to want millions to do they job. |
Good luck | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:17 - Oct 27 with 608 views | raynor94 |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:04 - Oct 27 by trampie |
Indeed. |
Far to many people want things for nothing these days, we have become a nanny state |  |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:32 - Oct 27 with 600 views | trampie |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:17 - Oct 27 by raynor94 |
Far to many people want things for nothing these days, we have become a nanny state |
Yes indeed and also far too many people want more than they are worth, we can't give everybody 100k plus a year salary but lots of people expect and demand that otherwise they will use emotional blackmail that they will work in another country etc. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:33 - Oct 27 with 597 views | Boundy |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:32 - Oct 27 by trampie |
Yes indeed and also far too many people want more than they are worth, we can't give everybody 100k plus a year salary but lots of people expect and demand that otherwise they will use emotional blackmail that they will work in another country etc. |
How do you value your worth to society ? | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:35 - Oct 27 with 594 views | controversial_jack |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:17 - Oct 27 by raynor94 |
Far to many people want things for nothing these days, we have become a nanny state |
Long gone are the days when someone could walk into an apprenticeship in a big company and work there until they retire with a nice pension | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:41 - Oct 27 with 592 views | raynor94 |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:35 - Oct 27 by controversial_jack |
Long gone are the days when someone could walk into an apprenticeship in a big company and work there until they retire with a nice pension |
Walk into? You do seem to come across as a rather covetous chap | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:59 - Oct 27 with 575 views | controversial_jack |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:41 - Oct 27 by raynor94 |
Walk into? You do seem to come across as a rather covetous chap |
I did. I had the choice of 3 apprenticeships when i left school and the O level results weren't even out at the time. | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:42 - Oct 27 with 553 views | Gwyn737 |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 22:56 - Oct 26 by trampie |
That is what I want, I want those selfish greedy people gone.
It used to be seen as a vocation a calling if you like, they should want to help their countrymen and fellow citizens, to be born here and have family here and be educated here and still be able to earn a good wage compared to the rest of population should be more than enough for them to want to stay, those that only care about money and would turn their back on their roots for money (when there would be enough money on the table anyway, but not as much as now) then we would be well shot of those people. |
Did this post come straight out of the Tory manifesto? | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:49 - Oct 27 with 541 views | trampie |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:42 - Oct 27 by Gwyn737 |
Did this post come straight out of the Tory manifesto? |
When the word manifesto caught my eye before I read your sentence I was expecting to read 'did this post come straight out of the Communist party manifesto', I guessed that one wrong, lol. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 13:55 - Oct 27 with 528 views | Togg |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 22:38 - Oct 26 by majorraglan |
If you cut the salaries paid to GP’s and Consultants what do you think will happen?
I’ll tell you what will happen, they’ll all pack their bags and move somewhere where their skills will be appreciated a little bit more. Doctors are in high demand and they will be able to earn a lot more in places like Australia, USA, Canada, Germany, the Middle East etc. We don’t train enough doctors as it is, cutting their pay is only going to further increase the shortage. Cut the number of doctors, increase the work loads and just watch the service further deteriorate!!!
Not arguing with the point you make about reducing admin staff.
Doctors and consultants are better value than the Spivy MP’s and AM’s we have in power |
Absolutely agree and what do high paid people do . Spend more money, pay more tax. | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 14:26 - Oct 27 with 506 views | trampie |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 13:55 - Oct 27 by Togg |
Absolutely agree and what do high paid people do . Spend more money, pay more tax. |
No that is not really the case, trickle down doesn't work, pay them more money and they will often bank it as they already have more than enough disposable income. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 15:23 - Oct 27 with 491 views | Togg |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 14:26 - Oct 27 by trampie |
No that is not really the case, trickle down doesn't work, pay them more money and they will often bank it as they already have more than enough disposable income. |
Disagree sorry mate. The people I know on six figure salaries pay a hell of a lot in tax and have a disposable income which they spend well. I have no doubt you will also get the tight ones. | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 15:24 - Oct 27 with 485 views | controversial_jack |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 15:23 - Oct 27 by Togg |
Disagree sorry mate. The people I know on six figure salaries pay a hell of a lot in tax and have a disposable income which they spend well. I have no doubt you will also get the tight ones. |
On the other hand, those on low income pay a higher proportion of their earnings than those on high incomes. These are the ones that need the breaks | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 16:11 - Oct 27 with 468 views | Catullus |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 13:55 - Oct 27 by Togg |
Absolutely agree and what do high paid people do . Spend more money, pay more tax. |
I'm not against high pay but I am against obscenely high pay.
Why should the head of an NHS trust or a Council get a bigger salary than the PM? | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 16:30 - Oct 27 with 461 views | onehunglow |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 16:11 - Oct 27 by Catullus |
I'm not against high pay but I am against obscenely high pay.
Why should the head of an NHS trust or a Council get a bigger salary than the PM? |
In that case,why do not all quit watching football especially Premier League.
Salaries of 2 miliion PER MONTH are obscene and blow away any opposition for obscenity in salaries.
Footballers are often ill-educated bucks barely able to string a sentence together but have egos that see them end in Court often enough. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 17:04 - Oct 27 with 441 views | trampie |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 15:23 - Oct 27 by Togg |
Disagree sorry mate. The people I know on six figure salaries pay a hell of a lot in tax and have a disposable income which they spend well. I have no doubt you will also get the tight ones. |
Disagree sorry butt, trickle down doesn't work as soon as the chancellor announced huge tax giveaways to the rich I was straight on here before the press fully understood, before the markets had totally crashed saying I remember Thatcher and Regan, I seen documentaries, I read about experts reports into trickle down and it doesn't work, of course as we know it did all kicked off, the markets crashed. People know it didn't work, I knew I didn't work but the Prime Minister and Chancellor didn't know or perhaps they did and just wanted to give even more money to their already rich friends and didn't care.
On a practical level, rich people might buy Swiss watches, designer gold jewelry, Italian fast cars but not cars from Dagenham or pies from the local chippy, any boost is small and in areas of luxury goods it's a failed experiment. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 17:56 - Oct 27 with 423 views | Scotia |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:48 - Oct 27 by trampie |
They shouldn't want their mouths filled with gold to save lives (they should be well paid absolutely) have they no decency, no moral compass, no compassion, an independent audit might find they are helping to bankrupt the NHS, it's emotional blackmail to want millions to do they job. |
There is a massive difference between want and deserve. | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 17:57 - Oct 27 with 418 views | trampie |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 17:56 - Oct 27 by Scotia |
There is a massive difference between want and deserve. |
Indeed | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 18:15 - Oct 27 with 401 views | Togg |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 17:04 - Oct 27 by trampie |
Disagree sorry butt, trickle down doesn't work as soon as the chancellor announced huge tax giveaways to the rich I was straight on here before the press fully understood, before the markets had totally crashed saying I remember Thatcher and Regan, I seen documentaries, I read about experts reports into trickle down and it doesn't work, of course as we know it did all kicked off, the markets crashed. People know it didn't work, I knew I didn't work but the Prime Minister and Chancellor didn't know or perhaps they did and just wanted to give even more money to their already rich friends and didn't care.
On a practical level, rich people might buy Swiss watches, designer gold jewelry, Italian fast cars but not cars from Dagenham or pies from the local chippy, any boost is small and in areas of luxury goods it's a failed experiment. |
So what are you on about professional medical people etc being on 100k plus which is decent but not huge amount or the super rich like football players?
Many people put their gonads on the line to start a business, remortgage take out loans, many fail but the ones who succeed deserve the financial rewards . Also creating work for the populace. It's the way if the world. | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 18:20 - Oct 27 with 384 views | Togg |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 15:24 - Oct 27 by controversial_jack |
On the other hand, those on low income pay a higher proportion of their earnings than those on high incomes. These are the ones that need the breaks |
They don't pay 40% tax!! As it happens my wife does an important job on minimum wage . I'm lucky that I earn decent money. Personally I would help lower income by increasing the minimum wage and increasing the amount you can earn before being taxed. | | | |
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