| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour 13:36 - Nov 2 with 3499 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
Southgate says he's visited Qatar and the overseas labourers all want the WC to go ahead.
He probably thinks totalitarian regimes are a good idea because everyone he is introduced to seems happy.
6,500 estimated deaths, this WC should not be happening.
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 13:54 - Nov 2 with 2759 views | Flashberryjack |
Can't stand the bloke, best thing about England getting knocked out, is him getting the sack. |  |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 14:16 - Nov 2 with 2745 views | Kilkennyjack |
You are correct.
A called Cymru ‘ a certain level of opponent ’ when talking about Grealish.
Big nosed penalty kick misser that he is…. ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ðŸ«–â˜•ï¸ |  |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 14:18 - Nov 2 with 2746 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 13:54 - Nov 2 by Flashberryjack |
Can't stand the bloke, best thing about England getting knocked out, is him getting the sack. |
Normally after Wales, I'll support the home nations. On this occasion, I'll be very happy when the inevitable poor performance leads to England's demise and Southgate is left to explain why Harry Kane's OneLove armband has failed to bring about the emancipation of the people of the Gulf States. | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 15:45 - Nov 2 with 2699 views | hobo |
There have been 37 deaths among workers directly linked to construction of World Cup stadiums, of which 34 are classified as 'non-work related' |  | | |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 18:05 - Nov 2 with 2647 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 15:45 - Nov 2 by hobo |
There have been 37 deaths among workers directly linked to construction of World Cup stadiums, of which 34 are classified as 'non-work related' |
Do you actually believe what you have written? |  |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 18:09 - Nov 2 with 2652 views | Catullus |
Ay workers he met will have been handpicked and probably handsomely paid or grievously threatened to say the right things, from a Qatari point of view. |  |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 18:12 - Nov 2 with 2646 views | KeithHaynes |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 18:05 - Nov 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Do you actually believe what you have written? |
That info he must have got from somewhere. |  |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 18:58 - Nov 2 with 2621 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 18:12 - Nov 2 by KeithHaynes |
That info he must have got from somewhere. |
In the original report it states that India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka say that they have reports of around 6,500 deaths amongst migrant workers from their embassies in Qatar. The totalitarian regime in Qatar say it is 37 | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 19:13 - Nov 2 with 2605 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 18:12 - Nov 2 by KeithHaynes |
That info he must have got from somewhere. |
I know where it has come from. The writer does not quote it. He simple gives his opinion. They are HIS words. I asked him if he she believes what he wrote. If he does not believe it then why post it.? | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 19:18 - Nov 2 with 2603 views | Dr_Winston |
Both figures seem a bit ludicrous to be honest.
For 6500 people to be killed building seven stadiums they'd have to be firing the workers at the walls out of a cannon. That's nearly a thousand deaths per stadium.
Even if you include those killed on infrastructure projects it still seems high as hell. For comparison, 112 people were killed over five years building the Hoover Dam at a time where working class life wasn't worth a hell of a lot more in the US.
The truth, as always, is probably somewhere in the middle. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 19:25 - Nov 2 with 2578 views | pencoedjack |
Does anyone really care what Southgate says? |  | | |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 19:25 - Nov 2 with 2578 views | hobo |
The figure of 6500 deaths relates to deaths of migrants since Qatar was given the WC (2010, so in the last 12 years). This could have been from natural causes (85%+ were) and they may have been in the country for a multitude of reasons and have nothing to do with the World Cup. | | | |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 19:29 - Nov 2 with 2556 views | KeithHaynes |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 19:25 - Nov 2 by pencoedjack |
Does anyone really care what Southgate says? |
That’s the problem he has a world platform. | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 20:30 - Nov 2 with 2530 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 19:25 - Nov 2 by hobo |
The figure of 6500 deaths relates to deaths of migrants since Qatar was given the WC (2010, so in the last 12 years). This could have been from natural causes (85%+ were) and they may have been in the country for a multitude of reasons and have nothing to do with the World Cup. |
These migrant workers will be predominantly young men aged between 18 and 35 ish. Not the sort of age you’d necessarily associate with dying with “natural causes” in great numbers under normal circumstances.
Sure I read somewhere that migrant workers make up around 90% of the entire workforce. |  |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 20:36 - Nov 2 with 2521 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 19:25 - Nov 2 by hobo |
The figure of 6500 deaths relates to deaths of migrants since Qatar was given the WC (2010, so in the last 12 years). This could have been from natural causes (85%+ were) and they may have been in the country for a multitude of reasons and have nothing to do with the World Cup. |
You said this
"There have been 37 deaths among workers directly linked to construction of World Cup stadiums, of which 34 are classified as 'non-work related"
So you are saying 3 deaths at work not 6500. What do you believe?. Tell us. | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 22:47 - Nov 2 with 2487 views | TenbySwan |
Listening to talk sport in the car tonight they are starting a campaign to get Premier League games called off to stop England players getting injured as they are going down like flies apparently! |  | | |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 22:52 - Nov 2 with 2483 views | Boundy |
Considering ( by their own admission ) Quatar does not carry out post mortems unless except in cases where a crime may have been committed or the deceased may have suffered from an illness prior to death and the fact that many who died due to their religious beliefs have the body returned as quickly as possible for the completion of religious burial or cremation rites.
, FIFA’s president Gianni Infantino said earlier this year at the European Council in Strasbourg that only three workers died , FIFA & truth have proven not to be good bedfellows , 6, 600 or 6000 we'll probably never know but the families will but they don't count | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 22:57 - Nov 2 with 2474 views | onehunglow |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 22:52 - Nov 2 by Boundy |
Considering ( by their own admission ) Quatar does not carry out post mortems unless except in cases where a crime may have been committed or the deceased may have suffered from an illness prior to death and the fact that many who died due to their religious beliefs have the body returned as quickly as possible for the completion of religious burial or cremation rites.
, FIFA’s president Gianni Infantino said earlier this year at the European Council in Strasbourg that only three workers died , FIFA & truth have proven not to be good bedfellows , 6, 600 or 6000 we'll probably never know but the families will but they don't count |
Even more sick is the sight of Beckhan eulogising over this great country | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 23:32 - Nov 2 with 2468 views | KeithHaynes |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 22:52 - Nov 2 by Boundy |
Considering ( by their own admission ) Quatar does not carry out post mortems unless except in cases where a crime may have been committed or the deceased may have suffered from an illness prior to death and the fact that many who died due to their religious beliefs have the body returned as quickly as possible for the completion of religious burial or cremation rites.
, FIFA’s president Gianni Infantino said earlier this year at the European Council in Strasbourg that only three workers died , FIFA & truth have proven not to be good bedfellows , 6, 600 or 6000 we'll probably never know but the families will but they don't count |
Believe it or not that’s the brief in Spain as well mate.
You can doe today and be burned tomorrow. | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 06:34 - Nov 3 with 2433 views | hobo |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 20:36 - Nov 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You said this
"There have been 37 deaths among workers directly linked to construction of World Cup stadiums, of which 34 are classified as 'non-work related"
So you are saying 3 deaths at work not 6500. What do you believe?. Tell us. |
Your mistake and others is conflating the 6.5k figure with the World Cup.
Qatar has a massive migrant population. Before they even got the WC. They work in all sorts of industries and are a range of ages. Believe it or not, 95% of Qatar's workforce are migrants. Qatari's are very rich and well supported by their Government - they have no need to work. | | | |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 08:40 - Nov 3 with 2370 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
There is a lack of transparency and no human rights framework for these workers. Deaths of young men are unexplained and hundreds of thousands are affected.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/ | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 09:38 - Nov 3 with 2351 views | Boundy |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 23:32 - Nov 2 by KeithHaynes |
Believe it or not that’s the brief in Spain as well mate.
You can doe today and be burned tomorrow. |
Well you never stop learning , Cheers | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 13:49 - Nov 3 with 2292 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 06:34 - Nov 3 by hobo |
Your mistake and others is conflating the 6.5k figure with the World Cup.
Qatar has a massive migrant population. Before they even got the WC. They work in all sorts of industries and are a range of ages. Believe it or not, 95% of Qatar's workforce are migrants. Qatari's are very rich and well supported by their Government - they have no need to work. |
Qatar has a population of 3 million roughly the same as Birmingham. The world cup adventure includes metros a new airport and a range of other contractions all related to the World cup. I would guess probably 60-85% of all Qatar construction was World cup related over the last 10 years. The World Cup is a very big deal for such as small place.
You say 3 have died in construction related to the World cup. Journalists say over 6500 in construction where the majority of works are World cup related. Most were "natural causes" and suggest poor care and mistreatment of migrant workers by the Qatari authorities. Non payment and threats commonly reported.
This clearly went on before the World cup and the world cup and would have been known a a concern in any risk assessments done by FIFA. Peddling out the official line as fact is poor. in terms of ethics. | |
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| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 14:35 - Nov 3 with 2274 views | Whiterockin |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 13:49 - Nov 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Qatar has a population of 3 million roughly the same as Birmingham. The world cup adventure includes metros a new airport and a range of other contractions all related to the World cup. I would guess probably 60-85% of all Qatar construction was World cup related over the last 10 years. The World Cup is a very big deal for such as small place.
You say 3 have died in construction related to the World cup. Journalists say over 6500 in construction where the majority of works are World cup related. Most were "natural causes" and suggest poor care and mistreatment of migrant workers by the Qatari authorities. Non payment and threats commonly reported.
This clearly went on before the World cup and the world cup and would have been known a a concern in any risk assessments done by FIFA. Peddling out the official line as fact is poor. in terms of ethics. |
I think you should check the population of Birmingham, you are way off its closer to 1.1M. |  | | |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 14:45 - Nov 3 with 2270 views | onehunglow |
| Southgate Nonsense on WC Stadium Labour on 14:35 - Nov 3 by Whiterockin |
I think you should check the population of Birmingham, you are way off its closer to 1.1M. |
It is . Huge population in West Midlands too.
World away from a silent valley | |
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