| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ 11:40 - Apr 22 with 5772 views | SwansIndependent |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 16:36 - Apr 24 with 650 views | pencoedjack |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 18:03 - Apr 23 by Dr_Parnassus |
The errors are a product of the old system, it was a guarantee not a mishap.
The errors have reduced coinciding with less suicide passing around the back in a foolish attempt to tire them out, plus a less centrally focussed possession base making it harder for opponents to commit to the press.
Width and directness is the only way a possession based system to work. The fact it’s taken him 4 years to figure that out is scary.
Fishers errors were nothing to do with Russ of course, or his tactics at least, he was the one who insisted he was bought for a lump of cash a whack of salary each week. |
I really cannot understand how posters see it any different to this. |  | | |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:01 - Apr 24 with 623 views | STID2017 |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 16:22 - Apr 24 by Dr_Parnassus |
So you have no idea, but going to guess and make up a load of nonsense anyway?
My point stands, you have done nothing to challenge it.
Have another go. |
So do enlighten us all.
When was the last time you saw Swans play, if not regularly, then sporadically?
I expect it to be quite a few managers ago ... |  |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:07 - Apr 24 with 611 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:01 - Apr 24 by STID2017 |
So do enlighten us all.
When was the last time you saw Swans play, if not regularly, then sporadically?
I expect it to be quite a few managers ago ... |
I watch pretty much every game, probably miss 3 a season for one reason or another.
Your point? |  |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:09 - Apr 24 with 604 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 16:36 - Apr 24 by pencoedjack |
I really cannot understand how posters see it any different to this. |
It’s not even particularly controversial either, even the perennially confused among us can take a look at the errors there at MK Dons and right throughout his career with us, when he plays the way he bizarrely loves to. | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:22 - Apr 24 with 582 views | STID2017 |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:07 - Apr 24 by Dr_Parnassus |
I watch pretty much every game, probably miss 3 a season for one reason or another.
Your point? |
Okay as you are being evasive, actually attended Swans games regularly or sporadically in the flesh ?
I wonder if you can even remember? | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:26 - Apr 24 with 572 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:22 - Apr 24 by STID2017 |
Okay as you are being evasive, actually attended Swans games regularly or sporadically in the flesh ?
I wonder if you can even remember? |
Why is that evasive? I just answered your question.
What does being there in the flesh got to do with anything?
I think you are having a silly few days again it seems. | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:35 - Apr 24 with 558 views | STID2017 |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:26 - Apr 24 by Dr_Parnassus |
Why is that evasive? I just answered your question.
What does being there in the flesh got to do with anything?
I think you are having a silly few days again it seems. |
It has everything to do with it.
You criticise fans who at least have the decency to put their money where their mouths are.
You claim to be a globetrotter yet cannot state when you were last able to see them in the flesh.
Have you ever seen them play in the flesh or have you always watched from afar ? | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:44 - Apr 24 with 539 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:35 - Apr 24 by STID2017 |
It has everything to do with it.
You criticise fans who at least have the decency to put their money where their mouths are.
You claim to be a globetrotter yet cannot state when you were last able to see them in the flesh.
Have you ever seen them play in the flesh or have you always watched from afar ? |
I criticise people for acting foolishly, whether you attend a game in person makes no difference.
A fool is a fool regardless of where they watch.
I don’t claim to be anything, I just factually ease your often misguided curiosity. I’m in the States now by the way, before you tell me I’m in Aberdare again.  | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 18:00 - Apr 24 with 520 views | builthjack |
One chap on here wanted Wagner as our manager. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 18:41 - Apr 24 with 506 views | magicdaps10 |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 18:00 - Apr 24 by builthjack |
One chap on here wanted Wagner as our manager. |
Yes, I remember that!
Can't remember who it was for the life of me, my brain is saying it was that clown AndyCole......enlighten me to whom it was? |  |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 18:47 - Apr 24 with 500 views | KeithHaynes |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 18:00 - Apr 24 by builthjack |
One chap on here wanted Wagner as our manager. |
There were a few. |  |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 18:52 - Apr 24 with 492 views | magicdaps10 |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 18:47 - Apr 24 by KeithHaynes |
There were a few. |
To be fair.....i might have been one myself 😂
There was certainly one in recent months who was really pushing for it. | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:09 - Apr 24 with 470 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Awful manager, living off his early Huddersfield days. | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:23 - Apr 24 with 461 views | vetchonian |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 07:02 - Apr 23 by builthjack |
As I said, and you did too, its work in progress. Russ has now laid the foundations and its time to build the house. Some wanted a house without foundations, which would have fallen down.
Patience was needed, which a few beauts on here don't have.
The future is bright, the future is Russy. |
sp sad Russ has changed the foundations the recent upturn has come since he has abandoned his favoured 3 at the back and pass the leather of the ball I our own half
nowt to do with patience he has changed tack like he did last season when the pressure was on
Amazing lost sucfesfil managers are results focused but not our Russ see his coaching interview Keith put up.
it's great to watch the recent football and the results but let's quit the pretence that patience has finally paid off when Suoer Russ hasbmoged from plan a | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:33 - Apr 24 with 433 views | KeithHaynes |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:23 - Apr 24 by vetchonian |
sp sad Russ has changed the foundations the recent upturn has come since he has abandoned his favoured 3 at the back and pass the leather of the ball I our own half
nowt to do with patience he has changed tack like he did last season when the pressure was on
Amazing lost sucfesfil managers are results focused but not our Russ see his coaching interview Keith put up.
it's great to watch the recent football and the results but let's quit the pretence that patience has finally paid off when Suoer Russ hasbmoged from plan a |
If he has changed as much as some people infer then he is displaying all the competencies I want to see in a Swansea Manager.
He is learning and developing, and that’s all I can ask.
For someone to be able to do that displays a man who is courageous enough to change.
Which if right, I’m fairly certain you agree with. | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:36 - Apr 24 with 420 views | magicdaps10 |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:33 - Apr 24 by KeithHaynes |
If he has changed as much as some people infer then he is displaying all the competencies I want to see in a Swansea Manager.
He is learning and developing, and that’s all I can ask.
For someone to be able to do that displays a man who is courageous enough to change.
Which if right, I’m fairly certain you agree with. |
Let's say that was true....it's from a guy with no plan b and was too stubborn to change things.
The sheer stubbornness is really clouding things. | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:49 - Apr 24 with 404 views | vetchonian |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:36 - Apr 24 by magicdaps10 |
Let's say that was true....it's from a guy with no plan b and was too stubborn to change things.
The sheer stubbornness is really clouding things. |
yes 4 wins in 20 games before he recognises something needs to change 20 games is 43% of our games in a season..
People have short memories he changed to 4 at the back last season when he was under pressure only to revert to plan a when the heat was off... | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:50 - Apr 24 with 401 views | Whiterockin |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:36 - Apr 24 by magicdaps10 |
Let's say that was true....it's from a guy with no plan b and was too stubborn to change things.
The sheer stubbornness is really clouding things. |
The sheer stubbornness is from supporters who justifiably complain when it's deserved, but continue when praise is due. |  | | |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:15 - Apr 24 with 376 views | Fireboy2 |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:49 - Apr 24 by vetchonian |
yes 4 wins in 20 games before he recognises something needs to change 20 games is 43% of our games in a season..
People have short memories he changed to 4 at the back last season when he was under pressure only to revert to plan a when the heat was off... |
I bet you are absolutely gutted that we are on this good run.
I do hope we win our last two games, not because I love the swans (not the manager) but it will make the Martin haters feel even worse than they do now 🤣🤣🤣 |  | | |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:17 - Apr 24 with 371 views | vetchonian |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 19:50 - Apr 24 by Whiterockin |
The sheer stubbornness is from supporters who justifiably complain when it's deserved, but continue when praise is due. |
hey I've praised him for Saturday hit my issue is the crap being posted about patience finally paying off.
we now play with a different shape and different style.oh and with the same players who Russ's supporters including the owner of this forum said were not good enough
I'm pleased with our recent play and results but let's not pretendit's because Russ's masterplan has finally come good when he has ripped it up.....after 20 games with only 4 wins 17 points from 60....
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:17 - Apr 24 with 370 views | onehunglow |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:15 - Apr 24 by Fireboy2 |
I bet you are absolutely gutted that we are on this good run.
I do hope we win our last two games, not because I love the swans (not the manager) but it will make the Martin haters feel even worse than they do now 🤣🤣🤣 |
I bet he s more grounded and honest than you.
You wanted him out
Fact
Now play tidy or not at all.
Moderators have already sent two warnings about abuse | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:27 - Apr 24 with 356 views | vetchonian |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 17:22 - Apr 24 by STID2017 |
Okay as you are being evasive, actually attended Swans games regularly or sporadically in the flesh ?
I wonder if you can even remember? |
how many does Keith actually watch in the flesh...possibly more than Doc P but he sees more on tv yet he is allowed to comment | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:33 - Apr 24 with 340 views | vetchonian |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:15 - Apr 24 by Fireboy2 |
I bet you are absolutely gutted that we are on this good run.
I do hope we win our last two games, not because I love the swans (not the manager) but it will make the Martin haters feel even worse than they do now 🤣🤣🤣 |
no I.hate losing inhaled that run of 20 games withn9npy 4 wins and taking only 28% of the available points because in a Swans fan not the manager fan...unfortunately our current manager believes venus bigger than the club | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:38 - Apr 24 with 327 views | KeithHaynes |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:27 - Apr 24 by vetchonian |
how many does Keith actually watch in the flesh...possibly more than Doc P but he sees more on tv yet he is allowed to comment |
I have a three grand budget to watch the swans each season, so I can’t answer for anyone else. And I still have a season ticket. Most of my financial extras go to my daughter, which obviously take precedence for private care to keep her alive. | |
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| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:39 - Apr 24 with 326 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| David Wagner ‘ We can deal with Swansea City - We know what they are ‘ on 20:15 - Apr 24 by Fireboy2 |
I bet you are absolutely gutted that we are on this good run.
I do hope we win our last two games, not because I love the swans (not the manager) but it will make the Martin haters feel even worse than they do now 🤣🤣🤣 |
There are no Martin haters, just realists.
I probably would feel worse if we won our last two because it will confirm how much of a wasted opportunity this season was under him. If we finish level on points with 6th for example, that would be so much harder to take than if we finished 9 points off.
I still want us to win of course but I can’t pretend it won’t irritate me to look back on the needless dip in performance levels under him should we narrowly miss out.
I’d suggest if people don’t feel this way then they really do have their priorities out of whack.
Although again, you have slagged him off more than most. | |
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