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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach 16:05 - Sep 5 with 5932 viewstheloneranger

Jorge Vilda: Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach amid Luis Rubiales kiss row


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66721003

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 14:53 - Sep 10 with 991 viewsGwyn737

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 14:47 - Sep 10 by ReslovenSwan1

When 5000 men who have been through 15 years of schooling are singing.

"We know what we are, we know what we are we are Welsh Sh==pshaggers off to Qatar" people like me have to stand up and ask what the hell are you doing?

You will have not heard this before because people are herd beings and effectively cowards.

The chant and its variants are actually illegal and in the same pseudo obscene genre as monkey chants.

I am a proud Welsh person from a Welsh speaking heritage and i find it offensive. The same people who label me odd want to put a man who kissed a women in a jubilant post world cup celebrations in court facing a 4 year prison sentence.

It is the madness of the majority. BLM was the last fiasco. "We" all notionally supported commune living and defunding of the south Wales constabulary because some US activists said so. Mr Birch had the whole Swansea city squad posing behind the BLM logo for free.


You see that as submissive, I see that as powerful.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:21 - Sep 10 with 970 viewsReslovenSwan1

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 14:53 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737

You see that as submissive, I see that as powerful.


Gerwyn Price (and his wife and daughter) subjected to sheep noises and ethnic slurs faced it close up and personal, called the 4000 drunken louts "pathetic". it upset him and his family including young daughter. What a hero. A titan of respect and concentration.

You on the other hand are an apologist and brush it off from 500 yards with your dim mates with their kids tucked up safe at home. Enjoy singing your ethnic slurs. "you know what you are" (acting outside the club zero tolerance policy and the law of the land)

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:23 - Sep 10 with 975 viewsGwyn737

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:21 - Sep 10 by ReslovenSwan1

Gerwyn Price (and his wife and daughter) subjected to sheep noises and ethnic slurs faced it close up and personal, called the 4000 drunken louts "pathetic". it upset him and his family including young daughter. What a hero. A titan of respect and concentration.

You on the other hand are an apologist and brush it off from 500 yards with your dim mates with their kids tucked up safe at home. Enjoy singing your ethnic slurs. "you know what you are" (acting outside the club zero tolerance policy and the law of the land)


It going down this road again.

It’s boring.

The real world will keep turning and progressing.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:26 - Sep 10 with 962 viewsReslovenSwan1

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:23 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737

It going down this road again.

It’s boring.

The real world will keep turning and progressing.


The real works is increasingly PC. 30 years ago Swansea fans were throwing bananas at Garth Crooks. Most laughed. Swansea fans and Welsh football fans still have away to go.

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:36 - Sep 10 with 967 viewsSullutaCreturned

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 22:13 - Sep 8 by ReslovenSwan1

I have explained the recent difficulties in Spain and with Samson and the FA were the result of a clash of cultures. If male football merges female football and people think it can carry on as normal they are deluded. It is not an issue of individuals or Spanish psyche.

There will be demands for equality of pay conditions physio treatments pension insurances etc. The rights of 'Trans' players is another issue. Who will be Swansea city's first Trans player? Not something I will be following closely. The women's teams will cost perhaps £500k a year. The Trust are liable for £55,000 as their 11% share. Teams without a womens team will be at an advantage.

This is why women's teams should be stand alone clubs. It is better for everyone.

Jailing someone for four years who kissed someone in World cup winning celebrations is something the Taliban would do.


This line,

Jailing someone for four years who kissed someone in World cup winning celebrations is something the Taliban would do.

is so freaking stupid it's easy to see why people ridicule you. The taliban would punish the woman for complaining. The taliban would punish her if she was a lesbian or educated, they would flog her for daring to stand up for her human rights.

You think you are clever but you annot even see how far in the past you are. We don't have to like the way the world has become but we have to live with it.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 17:09 - Sep 10 with 929 viewstheloneranger

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:26 - Sep 10 by ReslovenSwan1

The real works is increasingly PC. 30 years ago Swansea fans were throwing bananas at Garth Crooks. Most laughed. Swansea fans and Welsh football fans still have away to go.


Why were Swans fans throwing bananas at Garth Crooks 30 years ago??

He retired from football in 1990!! 😂

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 17:27 - Sep 10 with 918 viewsonehunglow

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:26 - Sep 10 by ReslovenSwan1

The real works is increasingly PC. 30 years ago Swansea fans were throwing bananas at Garth Crooks. Most laughed. Swansea fans and Welsh football fans still have away to go.


And it’s harder for valley people starting as they do from 1952.
And the chapels are shutting due to people seeing the light

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 17:29 - Sep 10 with 916 viewsWhiterockin

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:36 - Sep 10 by SullutaCreturned

This line,

Jailing someone for four years who kissed someone in World cup winning celebrations is something the Taliban would do.

is so freaking stupid it's easy to see why people ridicule you. The taliban would punish the woman for complaining. The taliban would punish her if she was a lesbian or educated, they would flog her for daring to stand up for her human rights.

You think you are clever but you annot even see how far in the past you are. We don't have to like the way the world has become but we have to live with it.


The guy is a total embarrassment to the site and the intelligence of other posters.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 17:34 - Sep 10 with 898 viewsReslovenSwan1

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:36 - Sep 10 by SullutaCreturned

This line,

Jailing someone for four years who kissed someone in World cup winning celebrations is something the Taliban would do.

is so freaking stupid it's easy to see why people ridicule you. The taliban would punish the woman for complaining. The taliban would punish her if she was a lesbian or educated, they would flog her for daring to stand up for her human rights.

You think you are clever but you annot even see how far in the past you are. We don't have to like the way the world has become but we have to live with it.


What I said was not gender specific and valid. If someone kissed someone in the streets in Kabul consensually or otherwise someone is going to jail for four years or worse. One or both.

I have tried to explain Women have thrown themselves into a "mans world" of football. They do not like what they see. There are unacceptable things I do l not like either as a Welsh minority and I have explained that as well.

I admit to be struggling with the concept of transgender footballers. I am minded to think that a biological man who becomes woman should play in the man's game not the women's game. I could live with that. What is you view on this?

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 17:56 - Sep 10 with 861 viewsReslovenSwan1

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 17:09 - Sep 10 by theloneranger

Why were Swans fans throwing bananas at Garth Crooks 30 years ago??

He retired from football in 1990!! 😂


I was there and saw it. The crowd laughed and enjoyed the spectacle. Anything to put him off his game was seen as good.

Back in 1970 around the Swansea people jostled with demonstrators trying to stop Apartheid South Africa play Swansea in a "white skin" only match. We in Wales still praise the players who toured for "white skin" only games. I was a minority then too once I had formulated a philosophy.

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 21:23 - Sep 10 with 817 viewsWhiterockin

Rubiales resigned.

Luis Rubiales resigns as president of Spanish FA over Jenni Hermoso kiss - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66637879
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 22:16 - Sep 10 with 778 viewstheloneranger

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 21:23 - Sep 10 by Whiterockin

Rubiales resigned.

Luis Rubiales resigns as president of Spanish FA over Jenni Hermoso kiss - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66637879


But ...

Why would he resign if he's innocent?

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 22:55 - Sep 10 with 763 viewsLuther27

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 22:16 - Sep 10 by theloneranger

But ...

Why would he resign if he's innocent?


Politics….and remuneration maybe?
It’s going to be an interesting outcome.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 06:26 - Sep 11 with 739 viewsWhiterockin

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 22:16 - Sep 10 by theloneranger

But ...

Why would he resign if he's innocent?


Some interesting background information. Including comments by respected Spanish football journalist Guillem Balague.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66645961
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:18 - Sep 11 with 689 viewsjack247

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 15:21 - Sep 10 by ReslovenSwan1

Gerwyn Price (and his wife and daughter) subjected to sheep noises and ethnic slurs faced it close up and personal, called the 4000 drunken louts "pathetic". it upset him and his family including young daughter. What a hero. A titan of respect and concentration.

You on the other hand are an apologist and brush it off from 500 yards with your dim mates with their kids tucked up safe at home. Enjoy singing your ethnic slurs. "you know what you are" (acting outside the club zero tolerance policy and the law of the land)


Is this actually true or are you ‘speculating’ again? I find it hard to believe 4,000 people were all making sheep noises at him and his family.

He is (unjustly IMO) seen as a pantomime villain and gets a lot of boos and jeers because of his boisterous celebrations, not because of his birth place. I quite understand why this upsets him and sometimes puts him off his game.

I’ve never seen Jonny Clayton booed or subjected to any kind of crowd abuse, apart from when he is playing a home town hero and they all get that.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:37 - Sep 11 with 677 viewsReslovenSwan1

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:18 - Sep 11 by jack247

Is this actually true or are you ‘speculating’ again? I find it hard to believe 4,000 people were all making sheep noises at him and his family.

He is (unjustly IMO) seen as a pantomime villain and gets a lot of boos and jeers because of his boisterous celebrations, not because of his birth place. I quite understand why this upsets him and sometimes puts him off his game.

I’ve never seen Jonny Clayton booed or subjected to any kind of crowd abuse, apart from when he is playing a home town hero and they all get that.


It is true. The virtuous Skysports apologised to middle England for the "shagging" word and turned the volume down and were careful where the camera panned to. No lectures to the fans no tearful Eddie Wedderburn lecture like he gave to the Bulgarians.

I did not say 4000 were making sheep noises. No one objected though and of the 4000 the vast majority were drunk and behaving badly enjoying the ethnic slurs targeted at one individual and i his notionally vulnerable family.

He gets no love on here unlike the Young Spanish lady subjected to unwanted attention.

Gerwyn problem is he is called Gerwyn. If he follow Geraint and was called G he would get less abuse. He wears his nationality proudly. why should he not? Gerwyn is welsh and as far as this forum and Skysports are concerned is a "free hit".

I back him all the way, Zero tolerance.

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:43 - Sep 11 with 679 viewsjack247

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:37 - Sep 11 by ReslovenSwan1

It is true. The virtuous Skysports apologised to middle England for the "shagging" word and turned the volume down and were careful where the camera panned to. No lectures to the fans no tearful Eddie Wedderburn lecture like he gave to the Bulgarians.

I did not say 4000 were making sheep noises. No one objected though and of the 4000 the vast majority were drunk and behaving badly enjoying the ethnic slurs targeted at one individual and i his notionally vulnerable family.

He gets no love on here unlike the Young Spanish lady subjected to unwanted attention.

Gerwyn problem is he is called Gerwyn. If he follow Geraint and was called G he would get less abuse. He wears his nationality proudly. why should he not? Gerwyn is welsh and as far as this forum and Skysports are concerned is a "free hit".

I back him all the way, Zero tolerance.


I back him as well. I like him. I think he’s a great ambassador for Wales.

So are we now saying it was a tiny minority drunken idiots in a crowd of 4,000? That I could believe.

His ‘problem’ is that he’s over exuberant and he gets in opponents faces a bit. Nothing to do with his name or his nationality, as you well know.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:56 - Sep 11 with 671 viewsWhiterockin

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:43 - Sep 11 by jack247

I back him as well. I like him. I think he’s a great ambassador for Wales.

So are we now saying it was a tiny minority drunken idiots in a crowd of 4,000? That I could believe.

His ‘problem’ is that he’s over exuberant and he gets in opponents faces a bit. Nothing to do with his name or his nationality, as you well know.


I don't think his neighbours are to keen on him either.

But why is another thread being hijacked to suit one person agenda?
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 13:11 - Sep 11 with 666 viewsjack247

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:56 - Sep 11 by Whiterockin

I don't think his neighbours are to keen on him either.

But why is another thread being hijacked to suit one person agenda?


You’ll have to ask Resolven that. I responded to his post. I don’t know why he brought darts into it.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 13:15 - Sep 11 with 662 viewsReslovenSwan1

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:43 - Sep 11 by jack247

I back him as well. I like him. I think he’s a great ambassador for Wales.

So are we now saying it was a tiny minority drunken idiots in a crowd of 4,000? That I could believe.

His ‘problem’ is that he’s over exuberant and he gets in opponents faces a bit. Nothing to do with his name or his nationality, as you well know.


His "problem" is he is a proud Welshman with a Welsh name and a feisty character in a hall full of drunks who see ethnics baiting as good old adult themed fun. Some on here argue it is not intrinsically offensive , others argue Welah is not an ethnicity, other argue it is not offensive because it has no relation to the truth. These are from "low end Anglo" apologists.

The ethnic slurs were by a large number of people and generally supported by the 4000. He is a Welsh pantomime villain for sure but so was Raheem Sterling at one time with his gangsta gun tattoo remember?. English football has worked this out of their system to a degree.

Perpetrators should have been ejected without warning. (Zero tolerance). Instead Skysports turned down the crowd noise so the adult fun could continue without upsetting the viewers and letting middle England see how they behave as compared to those ghastly east Europeans.

He brings it on himself (or more relevantly herself) is an oft made argument against the victim. i am like Gerwyn and get called all sorts on here by the usual suspects.

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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 13:17 - Sep 11 with 661 viewsReslovenSwan1

Simon sums up my views very well.


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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 13:34 - Sep 11 with 650 viewsWhiterockin

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 13:17 - Sep 11 by ReslovenSwan1

Simon sums up my views very well.



Coercion charge filed and 48 hours later he resigned, makes you think.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 13:59 - Sep 11 with 622 viewsjack247

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 13:15 - Sep 11 by ReslovenSwan1

His "problem" is he is a proud Welshman with a Welsh name and a feisty character in a hall full of drunks who see ethnics baiting as good old adult themed fun. Some on here argue it is not intrinsically offensive , others argue Welah is not an ethnicity, other argue it is not offensive because it has no relation to the truth. These are from "low end Anglo" apologists.

The ethnic slurs were by a large number of people and generally supported by the 4000. He is a Welsh pantomime villain for sure but so was Raheem Sterling at one time with his gangsta gun tattoo remember?. English football has worked this out of their system to a degree.

Perpetrators should have been ejected without warning. (Zero tolerance). Instead Skysports turned down the crowd noise so the adult fun could continue without upsetting the viewers and letting middle England see how they behave as compared to those ghastly east Europeans.

He brings it on himself (or more relevantly herself) is an oft made argument against the victim. i am like Gerwyn and get called all sorts on here by the usual suspects.


Phil Taylor was probably the most disliked darts player before van Gerwen and Price came along. Scottish Gary Anderson and Dutch van Barneveld among the most loved by the mainly English crowds, despite both being grumpy and morose at times.

Do you not think Jonny Clayton, who wears a red dragon on his shirt, comes across as a proud Welshman?

Fair play, the Gerwyn Price comparison made me laugh
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 19:46 - Sep 11 with 558 viewsSullutaCreturned

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 17:34 - Sep 10 by ReslovenSwan1

What I said was not gender specific and valid. If someone kissed someone in the streets in Kabul consensually or otherwise someone is going to jail for four years or worse. One or both.

I have tried to explain Women have thrown themselves into a "mans world" of football. They do not like what they see. There are unacceptable things I do l not like either as a Welsh minority and I have explained that as well.

I admit to be struggling with the concept of transgender footballers. I am minded to think that a biological man who becomes woman should play in the man's game not the women's game. I could live with that. What is you view on this?


Not gender specific, well if two men or two women kisse the taliban would murder them both for being gay soyour argument fails whichever way you twist or turn.

Women are not in a mans world, they are part of THE world and play in WOMENS football teams.

Transgender should have their own leqgue if there are enough of them, they can't change to be a woman and take part in womens sport, they have a biological advantage.

Which particular Welsh minority are you? Yes we know there are things you fiind unacceptable, we've heard it often enough so please dont hijack any more threads.

PS, you couldn't have been there and seen Swans fans throw bananas at Crooks 30 years ago, as already pointed out, he'd finished playing by then.
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Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 21:05 - Sep 11 with 526 viewsmax936

Spanish federation sacks World Cup-winning coach on 12:56 - Sep 11 by Whiterockin

I don't think his neighbours are to keen on him either.

But why is another thread being hijacked to suit one person agenda?


Did you see his behaviour a few months ago, impersonating someone with disabilities in response to getting stick from the crowd, it was disgusting, I'd love to here some defending that appalling behaviour.

Just how in loving @@@@ can Rubiales say that the kiss was consensual, he grabbed her either side of her head and planted his lips on Hermoso's lips, she had no say in the matter, he's utterly deluded.

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