| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... 17:39 - Sep 29 with 7470 views | theloneranger |
"Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance from all but the poorest pensioners as a way of clawing back some taxpayer funds from the elderly, as he prepares to fight the next election on a pledge to keep the pension triple lock despite its spiralling costs."
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 14:09 - Sep 30 with 934 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 12:48 - Sep 30 by Gwyn737 |
I’m pretty ambivalent about it to be honest mate, possible because I don’t know of anyone who will be affected.
I do see a bit of unfairness though in that the person who bought their house in say Swansea in 1980, is massively disadvantaged to the person who bought theirs in Tunbridge Wells at the same time.
They both would have worked equally hard yet one will have generated a fortune more by doing nothing more. |
The same can be said of inheriting a house, you could inherit it and it's worth 600k but sell u 20 years later and it's 2 miilion.
Or how about sayingthe same about someone buying ahouse in Townhill versus one in Mumbles?
We pay tax on our earnings, tax on our savings, tax on essential services, tax on food and drink.
What is next, charging us 20% tax on how much tax we pay? |  | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 14:21 - Sep 30 with 932 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:48 - Sep 30 by raynor94 |
It should be means tested, what's the point in giving it to people who clearly don't need it |
Really simple to take it from higher rate tax paying pnsioners. |  |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 14:26 - Sep 30 with 926 views | Whiterockin |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 14:21 - Sep 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Really simple to take it from higher rate tax paying pnsioners. |
And easy to do. |  | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 14:57 - Sep 30 with 901 views | Gwyn737 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 14:09 - Sep 30 by SullutaCreturned |
The same can be said of inheriting a house, you could inherit it and it's worth 600k but sell u 20 years later and it's 2 miilion.
Or how about sayingthe same about someone buying ahouse in Townhill versus one in Mumbles?
We pay tax on our earnings, tax on our savings, tax on essential services, tax on food and drink.
What is next, charging us 20% tax on how much tax we pay? |
You could say exactly the same about that.
It’s still exceptionally rare and in most cases down to blind luck. Why should that person in Townhill not benefit but the person in mumbles gets the over a million pound estate AND a tax break.
It’s not earned money in most cases.
If we’re really about levelling up then this is a good policy (as long as the mega millionaires don’t avoid it)
I’m surprised at how many people this doesn’t affect are keen for the top 3% to have a tax break.
As I said earlier, I don’t think I know anyone who’ll be effected. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:08 - Sep 30 with 896 views | Badgeman |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 17:42 - Sep 29 by felixstowe_jack |
Makes you wonder why people paying 40% income tax need a winter fuel allowance. |
Makes me wonder why you’ve justified it as a policy until the exact moment Rishi Sunak said it was a bad idea. What flavour is his shoe polish today? |  |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:11 - Sep 30 with 892 views | Badgeman |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:30 - Sep 29 by Whiterockin |
OK I'll stand up to be counted. Inheritance tax is totally unfair in this day and age. Why should my next generation pay tax on what I have worked bloody hard to generate. Considering I have already paid tax on everything I have earned. |
Standing up to be counted by denouncing a tax only the richest 4% of estates in the whole country will ever have to pay. How very noble lol. | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:14 - Sep 30 with 886 views | Badgeman |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:08 - Sep 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
It's their children and grandchildren who lose out. |
Let’s all shed a tear for the heiresses of the wealthiest 4%. Pity these poor children and grand children who have to pay a smidge more tax on their stonking inheritance. [Post edited 30 Sep 2023 15:17]
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:20 - Sep 30 with 880 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:14 - Sep 30 by Badgeman |
Let’s all shed a tear for the heiresses of the wealthiest 4%. Pity these poor children and grand children who have to pay a smidge more tax on their stonking inheritance. [Post edited 30 Sep 2023 15:17]
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My God,a real class warrior statement . | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:23 - Sep 30 with 877 views | SullutaCreturned |
Nobody who is above a certain income or wealth level should get any benefits.
These rich people get bus passes, chuld benefit, this winter allowance, are there others?
Nobody who's income is in the millions or has millions in inheritance should qualify for benefits of any kind. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:32 - Sep 30 with 870 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:23 - Sep 30 by SullutaCreturned |
Nobody who is above a certain income or wealth level should get any benefits.
These rich people get bus passes, chuld benefit, this winter allowance, are there others?
Nobody who's income is in the millions or has millions in inheritance should qualify for benefits of any kind. |
And nobody should get unfettered support from the state if they refuse to take confesoonsibility for their lives .
Greatest scandal which Tories should see to is people ( and not rich ones) having to see their homes to get into a “care “ home to dine on sandwiches and chicken nuggets . This eclipses any benefits which are paid to people who basically paid for them and others anyway .
Rich pay tax and this provides for the “ poor” , the ones who feast at McDonalds and dump their crap at a hedgerow near you . | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:36 - Sep 30 with 865 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:32 - Sep 30 by onehunglow |
And nobody should get unfettered support from the state if they refuse to take confesoonsibility for their lives .
Greatest scandal which Tories should see to is people ( and not rich ones) having to see their homes to get into a “care “ home to dine on sandwiches and chicken nuggets . This eclipses any benefits which are paid to people who basically paid for them and others anyway .
Rich pay tax and this provides for the “ poor” , the ones who feast at McDonalds and dump their crap at a hedgerow near you . |
Confessoonsibility?
How many people have had to sell their homes?
I woud say rich people getting money they don't need is just as bad, Welfare is supposed to be for those in need, not those with 7 figure bank accounts. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:38 - Sep 30 with 865 views | Dr_Winston |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:23 - Sep 30 by SullutaCreturned |
Nobody who is above a certain income or wealth level should get any benefits.
These rich people get bus passes, chuld benefit, this winter allowance, are there others?
Nobody who's income is in the millions or has millions in inheritance should qualify for benefits of any kind. |
Fun fact, there are people in receipt of tax credits, essentially a benefit paid to those on a low income, with more than a million quid in savings, all quite legally as capital is not taken into account.
Not quite sure how as I'd expect the interest on a figure that big to exceed the income limits, but apparently it can and does happen. |  |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:50 - Sep 30 with 849 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:36 - Sep 30 by SullutaCreturned |
Confessoonsibility?
How many people have had to sell their homes?
I woud say rich people getting money they don't need is just as bad, Welfare is supposed to be for those in need, not those with 7 figure bank accounts. |
My wife’s mother.
She had to sell her house to move 8 to a care home .
It costs £1300 per week.
This woman has never claimed benefits of any kind as was the case with her husband who was a railway worker .
They brought up four daughters none of whom were troubled neglected,disadvantaged or underprivileged .
They ate well,as dad had an allotment and consequently ate no crap .
Now, as wife has power of attorney ,we are down to the stage where her money has almost ran out .
Forgive me if I don’t pine for the feckless who rely on everyone else . | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:58 - Sep 30 with 846 views | majorraglan |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:32 - Sep 30 by onehunglow |
And nobody should get unfettered support from the state if they refuse to take confesoonsibility for their lives .
Greatest scandal which Tories should see to is people ( and not rich ones) having to see their homes to get into a “care “ home to dine on sandwiches and chicken nuggets . This eclipses any benefits which are paid to people who basically paid for them and others anyway .
Rich pay tax and this provides for the “ poor” , the ones who feast at McDonalds and dump their crap at a hedgerow near you . |
I agree with you about people getting unfettered support, people who can’t work deserve support people who can work but don’t want to work should be made to wait to for the dole - simple as. If they don’t want to then they get nothing. If they have families then food etc is provided either via social services, school meals, school uniforms etc are provided, but as for money for phones, sky, fags etc it isn’t happening.
You mention the rich paying, if you’re loaded then the chances are they have accountants managing everything and tax contributions are significantly reduced. I read the other day in one of the quality news papers that inheritance tax was unlikely to impact on most people with around £19m as all the assets etc were tied up in trusts and they had advisors making sure they’re exposure was minimal - the people getting caught up in it all were those generally in the middle and upper middle class who were inheriting property.
What we need is a fair system where everyone pays a fare share. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 16:03 - Sep 30 with 841 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:50 - Sep 30 by onehunglow |
My wife’s mother.
She had to sell her house to move 8 to a care home .
It costs £1300 per week.
This woman has never claimed benefits of any kind as was the case with her husband who was a railway worker .
They brought up four daughters none of whom were troubled neglected,disadvantaged or underprivileged .
They ate well,as dad had an allotment and consequently ate no crap .
Now, as wife has power of attorney ,we are down to the stage where her money has almost ran out .
Forgive me if I don’t pine for the feckless who rely on everyone else . |
My father ran his own business, never sick and never claimed benefits, he said that benefits were designed as a safety net for those who could not fend for themselves.
His care cost £650,000 at the end of his life, 10 yeas in a home after a stroke, he paid it all himself. There was £100,000 left, after he passed, which we gave to his grandchildren to help them buy a house. | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:06 - Sep 30 with 796 views | Whiterockin |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:11 - Sep 30 by Badgeman |
Standing up to be counted by denouncing a tax only the richest 4% of estates in the whole country will ever have to pay. How very noble lol. |
At least I've never paid tax on cigarettes. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 19:47 - Sep 30 with 764 views | max936 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 15:50 - Sep 30 by onehunglow |
My wife’s mother.
She had to sell her house to move 8 to a care home .
It costs £1300 per week.
This woman has never claimed benefits of any kind as was the case with her husband who was a railway worker .
They brought up four daughters none of whom were troubled neglected,disadvantaged or underprivileged .
They ate well,as dad had an allotment and consequently ate no crap .
Now, as wife has power of attorney ,we are down to the stage where her money has almost ran out .
Forgive me if I don’t pine for the feckless who rely on everyone else . |
Its disgusting R, care homes are a licence to print money though, nearly 68k a year per person, FME's |  | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 19:56 - Sep 30 with 762 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 19:47 - Sep 30 by max936 |
Its disgusting R, care homes are a licence to print money though, nearly 68k a year per person, FME's |
I could write a book about.
Wifeys mum is 96 and hanging on though she wants to die rather than live.
The care she gets is invisible
We spend a lot of time answering calls from them and taking her to hospital she doesn’t really appreciate .
ThecfMily house is 300 yards away .
Her married life spent there until her husband died and she couldn’t care for herself .
Don’t let anyone tell me anything is worse than the way we treat our ekdely folk but on this threat some beauts are more concerned with tidy bashing.
Both parties are responsible for this ,as are we ,for allowing it.
Old people don’t complain so they have no political mileage . Then they die . Young people treat them like garbage .
As is obvious | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:16 - Sep 30 with 749 views | max936 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 19:56 - Sep 30 by onehunglow |
I could write a book about.
Wifeys mum is 96 and hanging on though she wants to die rather than live.
The care she gets is invisible
We spend a lot of time answering calls from them and taking her to hospital she doesn’t really appreciate .
ThecfMily house is 300 yards away .
Her married life spent there until her husband died and she couldn’t care for herself .
Don’t let anyone tell me anything is worse than the way we treat our ekdely folk but on this threat some beauts are more concerned with tidy bashing.
Both parties are responsible for this ,as are we ,for allowing it.
Old people don’t complain so they have no political mileage . Then they die . Young people treat them like garbage .
As is obvious |
A lot of these youngsters, don't take in account of what these Older folk have contributed throughout their working life's most have done 40/50+ years of working and deserve to receive what they receive in my honest opinion, most were brought up learning the value of life and the value of money, a great majority of todays younger folk know the value of nothing, for lots of reason's far to many haven't got a good days work in them, but expect everything. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:28 - Sep 30 with 743 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:16 - Sep 30 by max936 |
A lot of these youngsters, don't take in account of what these Older folk have contributed throughout their working life's most have done 40/50+ years of working and deserve to receive what they receive in my honest opinion, most were brought up learning the value of life and the value of money, a great majority of todays younger folk know the value of nothing, for lots of reason's far to many haven't got a good days work in them, but expect everything. |
Many youngsters simply see anyone over 60 as not worthy to be alive.
Ageism is acceptable in away racism isn’t
Many worked 50 years earning a pittance yet they managed to get a house of their own,which is taken off them by the state by virtue of these “ care” homes
Yet, we allow it and bleed about who pays higher rate tax or who has benefits when “they” think they don’t merit.
It’s a curse in our country
A country is defined not by the way it looks after its prisoners but it’s old folk | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:35 - Sep 30 with 739 views | max936 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:28 - Sep 30 by onehunglow |
Many youngsters simply see anyone over 60 as not worthy to be alive.
Ageism is acceptable in away racism isn’t
Many worked 50 years earning a pittance yet they managed to get a house of their own,which is taken off them by the state by virtue of these “ care” homes
Yet, we allow it and bleed about who pays higher rate tax or who has benefits when “they” think they don’t merit.
It’s a curse in our country
A country is defined not by the way it looks after its prisoners but it’s old folk |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 21:51 - Sep 30 with 717 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:28 - Sep 30 by onehunglow |
Many youngsters simply see anyone over 60 as not worthy to be alive.
Ageism is acceptable in away racism isn’t
Many worked 50 years earning a pittance yet they managed to get a house of their own,which is taken off them by the state by virtue of these “ care” homes
Yet, we allow it and bleed about who pays higher rate tax or who has benefits when “they” think they don’t merit.
It’s a curse in our country
A country is defined not by the way it looks after its prisoners but it’s old folk |
Who benefits from promoting these intergenerational differences, it's political. " They had it easy you deserve better vote for me I'll support you ".......they won't. | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 21:55 - Sep 30 with 715 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:30 - Sep 29 by Whiterockin |
OK I'll stand up to be counted. Inheritance tax is totally unfair in this day and age. Why should my next generation pay tax on what I have worked bloody hard to generate. Considering I have already paid tax on everything I have earned. |
Tax the rich until the pips squeak ….
We can then invest more in schools, hospitals, care services, security, transport and other things that help ordinary peole.
It can address child poverty in Wales.
Dont be a patsy for the rich. |  |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 22:22 - Sep 30 with 710 views | Dr_Winston |
Squeeze the rich until they f*ck off abroad. Then you're screwed because you've got no more rich to squeeze.
Economically illiterate Socialist nonsense front and square. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 23:31 - Sep 30 with 686 views | raynor94 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 21:55 - Sep 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Tax the rich until the pips squeak ….
We can then invest more in schools, hospitals, care services, security, transport and other things that help ordinary peole.
It can address child poverty in Wales.
Dont be a patsy for the rich. |
Typical covetous reply from you, remind us again what you contribute |  |
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