| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots 16:51 - Aug 8 with 6465 views | theloneranger |
"A Labour has been arrested by the Met Police and suspended from the party for saying far-right protesters’ throats to be ‘cut’."
"Ricky Jones, a borough councillor in Dartford, Kent, is thought to have made the call at a demonstration in east London on Wednesday evening."
"He has since been arrested for an offence under the Public Order Act following the incident in Kent on Wednesday evening, the Metropolitan Police said."
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 22:51 - Aug 8 with 1731 views | majorraglan |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 20:47 - Aug 8 by KeithHaynes |
There’s a few idiots trying to amend the football offences act to ban people who have been convicted of offences relating to this current situation. Our boy Ricky is a fan of Gillingham. Goose and gander time ? |
I’m all in favour of dishing out some pretty substantial sentences to the skanks who’re involved in the bother whether they are right wing or left wing, but I think the attempts to change the laws to ban the guilty from football matches is completely wrong. Unless an offence is directly linked to football, then the banning orders etc shouldn’t apply.
If an individual club wants to ban a supporter convicted of violent disorder committed during the current troubles then as far as I am concerned that’s a matter for the particular club. |  | | |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 23:28 - Aug 8 with 1703 views | DJack |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 22:50 - Aug 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Can you be arrested and charged for clapping though? |
If there's a detonator in their hand, then yes. |  |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 23:33 - Aug 8 with 1702 views | DJack |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 20:10 - Aug 8 by majorraglan |
Who on the left has said it ok?
Behaviour like this is never acceptable from anyone. The guy should be forced out of office, booted out of the Labour Party (if that’s who he represents) and prosecuted. End of. |
Yep. Suspend him, investigate him and then kick him out of the party.
...and a six a.m. knock on the door. | |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 11:43 - Aug 9 with 1581 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 23:28 - Aug 8 by DJack |
If there's a detonator in their hand, then yes. |
In that instance she would be arrested for having a detonator and/or a bomb, not for clapping. 😂 |  |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 14:41 - Aug 9 with 1502 views | theloneranger |
“The Crown Prosecution Service has authorised the Metropolitan Police to charge Ricky Jones, 57, with one count of encouraging violent disorder."
“Jones was filmed addressing a crowd in Walthamstow on Wednesday 7 August during which he appeared to make remarks and a gesture to encourage others to act violently towards far-right protestors."
“He has been arrested and charged within 48 hours, and will now appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court this afternoon, 9 August 2024." | |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 15:04 - Aug 9 with 1471 views | Gwyn737 |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 14:41 - Aug 9 by theloneranger |
“The Crown Prosecution Service has authorised the Metropolitan Police to charge Ricky Jones, 57, with one count of encouraging violent disorder."
“Jones was filmed addressing a crowd in Walthamstow on Wednesday 7 August during which he appeared to make remarks and a gesture to encourage others to act violently towards far-right protestors."
“He has been arrested and charged within 48 hours, and will now appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court this afternoon, 9 August 2024." |
Two tier policing innit. | | | |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 15:31 - Aug 9 with 1447 views | Flashberryjack |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 15:04 - Aug 9 by Gwyn737 |
Two tier policing innit. |
Correct |  |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 16:06 - Aug 9 with 1404 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 14:41 - Aug 9 by theloneranger |
“The Crown Prosecution Service has authorised the Metropolitan Police to charge Ricky Jones, 57, with one count of encouraging violent disorder."
“Jones was filmed addressing a crowd in Walthamstow on Wednesday 7 August during which he appeared to make remarks and a gesture to encourage others to act violently towards far-right protestors."
“He has been arrested and charged within 48 hours, and will now appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court this afternoon, 9 August 2024." |
Top of the tariff is four years and six months, let's see what he gets. |  |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 16:08 - Aug 9 with 1392 views | Whiterockin |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 16:06 - Aug 9 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Top of the tariff is four years and six months, let's see what he gets. |
Let's wait and see. Is it we are coming down hard on these thugs or we are coming down hard on these thugs unless they are Labour politicians. |  | | |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 17:15 - Aug 9 with 1334 views | majorraglan |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 16:08 - Aug 9 by Whiterockin |
Let's wait and see. Is it we are coming down hard on these thugs or we are coming down hard on these thugs unless they are Labour politicians. |
We’ve got an independent judiciary in the UK, it’ll be down to the magistrates and judges as to what he gets when he’s sentenced.
These 2 counter protestors have just had porridge served up to them after being involved in disorder with white guys wearing Union Jack flag and masks. Good enough for them and anyone else involved in the disorder.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 17:47 - Aug 9 with 1307 views | AnotherJohn |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 17:15 - Aug 9 by majorraglan |
We’ve got an independent judiciary in the UK, it’ll be down to the magistrates and judges as to what he gets when he’s sentenced.
These 2 counter protestors have just had porridge served up to them after being involved in disorder with white guys wearing Union Jack flag and masks. Good enough for them and anyone else involved in the disorder.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne
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The cases so far have deserved what they got, but I did wonder about the independence of the judiciary aspect when such a strong steer came from the PM. The older man from Southport with no previous convictions who handed himself in and pleaded guilty would probably have escaped with a lighter sentence without that context (not that he didn't deserve porridge). I think they will have to be pretty hard on Jones to escape the allegation of "two tier" justice, although I suppose the "words not actions" aspect will come into the sentencing calculation. We'll see. | | | |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:07 - Aug 9 with 1297 views | onehunglow |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 20:37 - Aug 8 by Flashberryjack |
Two tier Kier |
Diversity and equality mun | |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:35 - Aug 9 with 1253 views | Whiterockin |
Remanded into custody until the next court appearance in September. | | | |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:44 - Aug 9 with 1231 views | Gwyn737 |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:35 - Aug 9 by Whiterockin |
Remanded into custody until the next court appearance in September. |
Two tier kier 😉 | | | |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:50 - Aug 9 with 1228 views | theloneranger |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:44 - Aug 9 by Gwyn737 |
Two tier kier 😉 |
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Remanded in custody this afternoon, and he will next appear at Inner London Crown Court on September 6. | |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:53 - Aug 9 with 1217 views | Whiterockin |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:50 - Aug 9 by theloneranger |
😂
Remanded in custody this afternoon, and he will next appear at Inner London Crown Court on September 6. |
When they are hoping things will have settled down and they can enforce lighter sentences. Truly a carve up. | | | |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 19:20 - Aug 9 with 1173 views | union_jack |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:53 - Aug 9 by Whiterockin |
When they are hoping things will have settled down and they can enforce lighter sentences. Truly a carve up. |
Strange how they got the ‘far right’ offenders into court and sentenced in days yet this guy has to wait until September. However, he is in custody so that’s a good thing. |  |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 19:24 - Aug 9 with 1160 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 19:20 - Aug 9 by union_jack |
Strange how they got the ‘far right’ offenders into court and sentenced in days yet this guy has to wait until September. However, he is in custody so that’s a good thing. |
I guess he may have pleaded not guilty? | |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 19:27 - Aug 9 with 1154 views | raynor94 |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 19:20 - Aug 9 by union_jack |
Strange how they got the ‘far right’ offenders into court and sentenced in days yet this guy has to wait until September. However, he is in custody so that’s a good thing. |
I think they pleaded guilty |  |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 19:32 - Aug 9 with 1146 views | theloneranger |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 19:24 - Aug 9 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I guess he may have pleaded not guilty? |
He never entered a plea. | |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 19:39 - Aug 9 with 1139 views | AnotherJohn |
Is the delay because this is now a Crown Court case? | | | |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 21:57 - Aug 9 with 1078 views | KeithHaynes |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 19:39 - Aug 9 by AnotherJohn |
Is the delay because this is now a Crown Court case? |
He will be allowed to take some more legal advice and no doubt will employ better than average lawyers. He will appear in court again at which point he will be asked to plead and if it’s ‘not guilty’ you can expect him to be bailed or possibly remanded, if he is to be treated like everyone else. A person with legal backing in his situation will rely on his chances at trial. If he is found guilty in Crown he will most certainly go to jail. If he pleads I think he will get away with a sentence, possibly suspended. Although if that happens the loonies may well be out again. And I don’t blame them regardless of my opinion on both sides.
Tough times for the idiot, how he thought he would get away with it god only knows.
Just my opinion btw mate. |  |
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 14:47 - Aug 10 with 883 views | majorraglan |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 18:53 - Aug 9 by Whiterockin |
When they are hoping things will have settled down and they can enforce lighter sentences. Truly a carve up. |
Why is it a carve up?
The guy has been arrested, charged and then denied bail (like the other suspects who’ve been Charged with similar offences) and held in police Custody to appear at Court. He’s then appeared in Court, not entered a plea and been remanded in Custody for a month.
Whatever happened in the Magistartes Court, this case was always going to end up in Crown Court.
If he’d entered a not guilty plea the case would be transferred to the Crown Court for trial, if he’d entered a guilty plea it would be transferred to the Crown Court for sentencing because Magistrates can only hand out 6 months imprisonment which is inappropriate given the nature of the offence.
As Kieth has said, the month he spends in Custody will allow the police sufficient time to collate all the evidence, prepare the disclosures and upgrade the initial remand file to a full file containing all the evidence so the CPS can progress the prosecution and provide the defence with copies of the file. [Post edited 10 Aug 2024 14:51]
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| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 14:49 - Aug 10 with 871 views | Whiterockin |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 14:47 - Aug 10 by majorraglan |
Why is it a carve up?
The guy has been arrested, charged and then denied bail (like the other suspects who’ve been Charged with similar offences) and held in police Custody to appear at Court. He’s then appeared in Court, not entered a plea and been remanded in Custody for a month.
Whatever happened in the Magistartes Court, this case was always going to end up in Crown Court.
If he’d entered a not guilty plea the case would be transferred to the Crown Court for trial, if he’d entered a guilty plea it would be transferred to the Crown Court for sentencing because Magistrates can only hand out 6 months imprisonment which is inappropriate given the nature of the offence.
As Kieth has said, the month he spends in Custody will allow the police sufficient time to collate all the evidence, prepare the disclosures and upgrade the initial remand file to a full file containing all the evidence so the CPS can progress the prosecution and provide the defence with copies of the file. [Post edited 10 Aug 2024 14:51]
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Let's wait and see. | | | |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 14:53 - Aug 10 with 851 views | majorraglan |
| Labour councillor arrested for encouraging murder during UK riots on 14:49 - Aug 10 by Whiterockin |
Let's wait and see. |
All that’s happened here is due process is being followed, nothing more and nothing less. | | | |
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