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Shocking scenes in belfast 08:51 - Jun 9 with 15246 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Video doing the rounds of an African migrant attempting to behead a bloke in the street last night. Luckily some brave fellows were able to stop him in time although reports suggest serious injuries have been inflicted.

Not going to post it on here for obvious reasons but it’s bloody awful.

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 08:29 - Jun 10 with 1610 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Shocking scenes in belfast on 07:45 - Jun 10 by Scotia

The media are largely on the side who've caused the problem and the solution is very difficult, expensive and unpopular.


It’s not that unpopular when you look at the surge of support in the polls for the likes of Farage and Lowe

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:25 - Jun 10 with 1520 viewsonehunglow

Shocking scenes in belfast on 07:53 - Jun 10 by AnotherJohn

Anna Turley claimed today on the radio that net migration had fallen by 82%. As you say some of this is due to policies introduced in the final year or two of the last government when they realised things were getting out of control, but the net figure gives an overly positive picture because of the number of people leaving the UK. The latest government figures for the YE May 2026 show that there were 778,626 entering with visas and 43.806 entering illegally without a visa. Piled on top of arrivals from previous years who have yet to integrate that means that the problem remains highly visible. I will think there is something in your argument if all the additional changes proposed by Shabana Mahmood are actually put into legislation. Already we can see the PLP backbenchers trying to water those proposals down.
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A decent size small town then

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:41 - Jun 10 with 1508 viewsDr_Winston

That's net migration. The numbers coming in haven't changed much. They're just being offset by a higher number leaving. Typical manipulation which doesn't take into account the net contribution disparity between the two groups.

That's not going into the hardening reality that we need to see net emigration, and at high numbers for quite a few years to get the numbers back to where they once were.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:30 - Jun 10 with 1478 viewsjohnlangy

An interesting take on things from Tommy Robinson after the Belfast problems. He attended an economic forum in Moscow where he met Elon Musk's father. And he said this:

“I’ve come to see how this country got itself so well on to the straight and narrow and see the beauty of a civilised society here.”

He added: “Russia is not the enemy of Britain. That narrative has long since died a natural death.

“There are those who benefit from pushing Russia as an enemy but everyone laughs at those people now.”
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 12:13 - Jun 10 with 1414 viewsDemitrius

On that street that's full of foreign nationals the house that burned down belonged to a NI native born and bred - Jamie Corrie - he's lost everything. I don't expect the irony of that will resonate much with the pond-life that were setting fires.

It's often the case that these kind of angry eruptions cause more self-harm and achieve nothing constructive.

When will people learn to target their anger directly at those in charge - our politicians get far too easy a ride for the chaos and misery they inflict on the electorate.

“Cunnilingus and Psychiatry brought us to this …”

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 14:29 - Jun 10 with 1361 viewsReslovenSwan1

Shocking scenes in belfast on 19:00 - Jun 9 by onehunglow

But not stopped
It is the sheer fact these are desperate men whose life parameters are very different
Time to accept that being “ humane” to these animals is killing us
Fact
We have not yet accepted reality
Plaid FFS want virtually unlimited migration
Funnily enough if we enter countries illegally we are throw out immediately


Rhun ap Iorweth state he wanted Wales to control immigration and use quota s to fill skill gaps.

Too many bleeding hearts in his party are prone to welcoming people in danger in statements with no concept of controlling the numbers and quotas relating to usefulness to Wales .

Reform do not even go there for fear of getting edited in clips

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 14:36 - Jun 10 with 1358 viewsReslovenSwan1

Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:30 - Jun 10 by johnlangy

An interesting take on things from Tommy Robinson after the Belfast problems. He attended an economic forum in Moscow where he met Elon Musk's father. And he said this:

“I’ve come to see how this country got itself so well on to the straight and narrow and see the beauty of a civilised society here.”

He added: “Russia is not the enemy of Britain. That narrative has long since died a natural death.

“There are those who benefit from pushing Russia as an enemy but everyone laughs at those people now.”


Why quote this ex assembly line car manufacturer for Luton with a ling criminal record.

He is anti Muslim and seeks to justify land theft by force and violence by Russia and Isreal.

There should be a very hard line with Russia. No relaxing of sanctions until the FSB clique are out of power.

No deal with Putin. He can go to hell He is squirming under Ukrainian pressure. UK can trade with a new Russia cleaned up regime.

Isreal has infiltrated UK EU and USA so much there is no quick fix.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 15:35 - Jun 10 with 1319 views1983

Shocking scenes in belfast on 12:13 - Jun 10 by Demitrius

On that street that's full of foreign nationals the house that burned down belonged to a NI native born and bred - Jamie Corrie - he's lost everything. I don't expect the irony of that will resonate much with the pond-life that were setting fires.

It's often the case that these kind of angry eruptions cause more self-harm and achieve nothing constructive.

When will people learn to target their anger directly at those in charge - our politicians get far too easy a ride for the chaos and misery they inflict on the electorate.


Exactly this.

Believe it or not I was in Belfast yesterday and I done a troubles tour and walked on Falls road & Shanklin road with the tour and it was just like any other out of town street,both tour guides from each side said they wanted the "peace" wall to come down but the government dont want it to come down and the wall has actually lengthed since the good friday deal.

Smoke and mirrors, keep the problem alive
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:04 - Jun 10 with 1252 viewsshingle

Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:41 - Jun 9 by Scotia

No she wasn't you utter fool. They were just crap.

Rwanda was in place. It was crap, it didn't work and was never going to work. If it had it would have been at capacity in a couple of weeks

How could Labour stop her? The Tories had a massive majority

You have to be a complete idiot to think she'd be any better in Reform. She'd be as crap but surrounded by worse politicians.


You just said no she wasn't they were just crap and you call me a fool lol, your tantrum because you have been outed yet again as a clueless bloke means you have now gone completely off kilter to what was explained to you.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:23 - Jun 10 with 1240 viewsjohnlangy

Shocking scenes in belfast on 14:36 - Jun 10 by ReslovenSwan1

Why quote this ex assembly line car manufacturer for Luton with a ling criminal record.

He is anti Muslim and seeks to justify land theft by force and violence by Russia and Isreal.

There should be a very hard line with Russia. No relaxing of sanctions until the FSB clique are out of power.

No deal with Putin. He can go to hell He is squirming under Ukrainian pressure. UK can trade with a new Russia cleaned up regime.

Isreal has infiltrated UK EU and USA so much there is no quick fix.
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I was intrigued to know if anyone on this forum thinks anything positive about the guy. Maybe contro will after this quote about Russia. Who knows.

Personally I think he's a stain on our society. And if it can be shown that he's committed a crime in any way by stoking up the hatred that poured onto the streets of Belfast I hope he gets put away for a very long time.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:26 - Jun 10 with 1230 viewsonehunglow

Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:04 - Jun 10 by shingle

You just said no she wasn't they were just crap and you call me a fool lol, your tantrum because you have been outed yet again as a clueless bloke means you have now gone completely off kilter to what was explained to you.


We should all feel indignation at an attempted beheading in UK
Our country is sinking fast
Some are making excuses,we see the term far right used as a pejorative and rank politicians using it for vote catching
However, I’m sure he kids in NI miss the good old days their parents had when firebombing the peelers was fun
So it was

The cause has shifted but it’s all about cretinous shite having fun

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:36 - Jun 10 with 1224 viewsScotia

Shocking scenes in belfast on 18:04 - Jun 10 by shingle

You just said no she wasn't they were just crap and you call me a fool lol, your tantrum because you have been outed yet again as a clueless bloke means you have now gone completely off kilter to what was explained to you.


You haven't explained anything.

Please tell me how Labour stopped any of Braverman's immigration policies. Off you go.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 19:42 - Jun 10 with 1181 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Shocking scenes in belfast on 14:36 - Jun 10 by ReslovenSwan1

Why quote this ex assembly line car manufacturer for Luton with a ling criminal record.

He is anti Muslim and seeks to justify land theft by force and violence by Russia and Isreal.

There should be a very hard line with Russia. No relaxing of sanctions until the FSB clique are out of power.

No deal with Putin. He can go to hell He is squirming under Ukrainian pressure. UK can trade with a new Russia cleaned up regime.

Isreal has infiltrated UK EU and USA so much there is no quick fix.
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He was an aircraft engineer originally not a car production line guy. Was selected from thousands for a quite prestigious apprenticeship. He clearly had potential. Could have had a good honest career in a good job if he hadn’t reverted to type and got sacked for assaulting a police officer. His long list of convictions for fraud, violence, drugs, you name it shows he’s far from the moral compass the country needs.

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 20:13 - Jun 10 with 1155 viewsScotia

Shocking scenes in belfast on 10:30 - Jun 10 by johnlangy

An interesting take on things from Tommy Robinson after the Belfast problems. He attended an economic forum in Moscow where he met Elon Musk's father. And he said this:

“I’ve come to see how this country got itself so well on to the straight and narrow and see the beauty of a civilised society here.”

He added: “Russia is not the enemy of Britain. That narrative has long since died a natural death.

“There are those who benefit from pushing Russia as an enemy but everyone laughs at those people now.”


Of course I'm sure a man trying his best to destabilise British society is in Russia out of the goodness of his grifting heart.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 20:42 - Jun 10 with 1139 viewsGwyn737

Shocking scenes in belfast on 20:13 - Jun 10 by Scotia

Of course I'm sure a man trying his best to destabilise British society is in Russia out of the goodness of his grifting heart.


When he not being busy whipping up hate posting stuff like this:

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 20:42 - Jun 10 with 1139 viewsmax936

Shocking scenes in belfast on 12:13 - Jun 10 by Demitrius

On that street that's full of foreign nationals the house that burned down belonged to a NI native born and bred - Jamie Corrie - he's lost everything. I don't expect the irony of that will resonate much with the pond-life that were setting fires.

It's often the case that these kind of angry eruptions cause more self-harm and achieve nothing constructive.

When will people learn to target their anger directly at those in charge - our politicians get far too easy a ride for the chaos and misery they inflict on the electorate.


Top posting Dem.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 01:31 - Jun 11 with 1092 viewsReslovenSwan1

Shocking scenes in belfast on 20:42 - Jun 10 by Gwyn737

When he not being busy whipping up hate posting stuff like this:



This stuff usually ends up being proven false under analysis. Trump and Musk have been corrected so many times.

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 01:42 - Jun 11 with 1089 viewsRobbie

Spineless Starmer again taking the plaudits for chucking the protestors into jail asap .

Pity he does not take the same actions on the murderers and baddies walking the streets and take the same get them locked up , or maybe not offend other demographics .

Seems like get a cheapie flight Paris to Dublin , walk into the non existent border controls and end up in the UK , why bother with the small boats way in .

Time to switch off GB News for now methinks .
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 05:16 - Jun 11 with 1063 viewsScotia

Shocking scenes in belfast on 01:42 - Jun 11 by Robbie

Spineless Starmer again taking the plaudits for chucking the protestors into jail asap .

Pity he does not take the same actions on the murderers and baddies walking the streets and take the same get them locked up , or maybe not offend other demographics .

Seems like get a cheapie flight Paris to Dublin , walk into the non existent border controls and end up in the UK , why bother with the small boats way in .

Time to switch off GB News for now methinks .
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Switch it off for good, it's not real life it's propaganda.

Starmer shouldn't take plaudits, it is nothing to do with him. The legislation used was first fast tracked to court after the 2011 summer riots by the Tories.

Nothing to do with this government.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 05:17 - Jun 11 with 1061 viewsScotia

Shocking scenes in belfast on 01:31 - Jun 11 by ReslovenSwan1

This stuff usually ends up being proven false under analysis. Trump and Musk have been corrected so many times.


If not false there'll be a lot more to it.

There is. Connor Bishop has several previous convictions, including for assault on an ex girlfriend and his own Mother, he pursued police officers for a while threw a cone at them a number of times, then threw a box of screws and a bit of criminal damage. He refused to leave his cell for sentencing after being convicted.

The sexual assault conviction, whilst shocking, is very minor. I wonder what made Stephen Yaxley-Lennon post it?
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 05:56 - Jun 11 with 1032 viewsGwyn737

Shocking scenes in belfast on 05:17 - Jun 11 by Scotia

If not false there'll be a lot more to it.

There is. Connor Bishop has several previous convictions, including for assault on an ex girlfriend and his own Mother, he pursued police officers for a while threw a cone at them a number of times, then threw a box of screws and a bit of criminal damage. He refused to leave his cell for sentencing after being convicted.

The sexual assault conviction, whilst shocking, is very minor. I wonder what made Stephen Yaxley-Lennon post it?
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Yep.

This stuff is so easy to be shown for what it is.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 06:46 - Jun 11 with 1020 viewsAnotherJohn

Shocking scenes in belfast on 05:56 - Jun 11 by Gwyn737

Yep.

This stuff is so easy to be shown for what it is.


I don't think tweets like the one cited are a good idea, but equally if you want to describe something "for what it is", I'm not sure that I would characterize a police officer's persistent sexual harassment of a 14 year old girl followed by denial and a not guilty plea as "minor" offending. Let forum members judge for themselves.

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Shocking scenes in belfast on 08:00 - Jun 11 with 970 viewsScotia

Shocking scenes in belfast on 06:46 - Jun 11 by AnotherJohn

I don't think tweets like the one cited are a good idea, but equally if you want to describe something "for what it is", I'm not sure that I would characterize a police officer's persistent sexual harassment of a 14 year old girl followed by denial and a not guilty plea as "minor" offending. Let forum members judge for themselves.

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I don't consider it minor offending but in the terms described by SYL it's a very minor sexual assault. Should he have gone to prison? Absolutley, all sexual offenders should. More people need to be sent to prison and for longer. I advocate an aggregation of prison sentences for offenders, but for that we'd need to spend billions on prisons.

The only issue with this situation is that if the sentencing in both cases was out of line with sentencing guidelines - I haven't looked but I bet it wasn't

A tweet like this is only aimed at stoking division and racial hatred, SYL didn't use a name like "David Smith" as an example, he easily could have.

Still he probably had an extra few roubles in an envelope pushed under his Moscow hotel door for posting it.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 08:37 - Jun 11 with 961 viewsAnotherJohn

Shocking scenes in belfast on 08:00 - Jun 11 by Scotia

I don't consider it minor offending but in the terms described by SYL it's a very minor sexual assault. Should he have gone to prison? Absolutley, all sexual offenders should. More people need to be sent to prison and for longer. I advocate an aggregation of prison sentences for offenders, but for that we'd need to spend billions on prisons.

The only issue with this situation is that if the sentencing in both cases was out of line with sentencing guidelines - I haven't looked but I bet it wasn't

A tweet like this is only aimed at stoking division and racial hatred, SYL didn't use a name like "David Smith" as an example, he easily could have.

Still he probably had an extra few roubles in an envelope pushed under his Moscow hotel door for posting it.


I thought your wording that the conviction "is very minor" was misleading, and actually I think many on your usual side of the argument would agree.
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Shocking scenes in belfast on 09:15 - Jun 11 with 940 views1983

Shocking scenes in belfast on 01:42 - Jun 11 by Robbie

Spineless Starmer again taking the plaudits for chucking the protestors into jail asap .

Pity he does not take the same actions on the murderers and baddies walking the streets and take the same get them locked up , or maybe not offend other demographics .

Seems like get a cheapie flight Paris to Dublin , walk into the non existent border controls and end up in the UK , why bother with the small boats way in .

Time to switch off GB News for now methinks .
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Starmer is a joke the man is deluded and lives in a fanasty world no wonder Farage & Tommy Robinson are so popular.

Him jailing these people asap is like starting an arsonist starting a big fire and then applauding the fire brigade.

Starmer reminds me of that scene on a Carry on film where they are all having this big banquet where the bombs are dropping all around them and they just keep eating and drinking as if nothing is happening 😂
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