| Dear me 13:30 - Aug 10 with 20436 views | max936 |
230 More illegal immigrants to clothe and feed, no wonder the clueless Labour government want to put our taxes up,
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| Dear me on 19:41 - Aug 13 with 1755 views | max936 |
| Dear me on 13:22 - Aug 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Many of our kids leaves school with no or poor qualification and are not capable of many jobs.
We do not pick our own fruit and vegetables. Romanians and Bulgarians came to UK to do that work. Boston Lincolnshire had a big East European population and chose to kick them out. They were there to WORK.
Care homes have massive shortages . Recycling jobs are mostly foreign. Few kids want to do farming. Big percentage s of foreign people are in construction. NHS is full of foreign doctors nurses and technicians with the Welsh girl in reception.
1m extra people of working age on Pip and off work since COVID. Anecdotally cafes restaurants and bars tell me the local youngsters have a bad work ethic. Brits in civil service jobs have horrific sickness leave data.
UK people booted out the workers. It makes no difference. European young male and female workers out. Asian males in. ( Did you not notice?). Amazon needs new workers. Indian students apology for right to stay. Bingo.
It should be pretty p obvious using your own eyes. We as a nation are IN DENIAL. We gave become lazy and lacking focus. Working from home does not help.
Just blame Mark Drakeford. That will sort it. M4 Relief Road and Royal Navy to turn the boats back and we all live happily ever after.
Is our productivity rising or falling. Falling of course.
Ai says "UK productivity has largely stagnated and, at times, fallen or underperformed significantly since the 2008 financial crisis. Rather than a single sharp drop, the UK faces a chronic "productivity puzzle" marked by flatlining output per hour compared to G7 peers like the US, France, and Germany".
That is my case your honour. [Post edited 13 Aug 14:43]
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Utter bollox, you continue to spout things as facts, you don't have a clue about, people working from home are far from lazy, it's harder and more stressful most of the time and I know that to be 100% fact', I myself did it a few days a week for a time earlier in the year and hated it, so if you think its a skive you're wrong as per usual
A load of student nurses have recently qualified a lot with honours and want to work, where are these jobs for them?.
Your mates in the Senedd won't even answer that question when they're asked, because most of them there are far more concerned with their crackpot agendas the Senedd is just a talking shop with little of any substance and full of cackling women, this was started by another mate of yours Drakeford who did the square root of F'all in the years he was there, the fact Welsh Labour was kicked out on their arses is mostly down to that clueless clown.
Most of our fruit is imported, but hey lets not let facts get in the way of a good yarn! 
Stop posting stuff as fact, cause your wrong! | | | |
| Dear me on 19:47 - Aug 13 with 1744 views | max936 |
| Dear me on 08:43 - Aug 13 by onehunglow |
So , we should allow totally unknown people to work
Where exactly? Doing what?
The care homes I visit have most “ foreign” staff on work visas
They are needed , vetted and do a thankless job
Incredible people
That’s the difference
They are wanted
If you can get same benefits in Italy then why carry on travelling and risk your life and a dinghy
There’s reasons why they take the risk |
This all day. | | | |
| Dear me on 19:47 - Aug 13 with 1733 views | Dr_Winston |
It should be illegal to appoint a non-UK citizen to a job where a suitably qualified UK citizen has applied.
It should be illegal to pay a non-UK citizen non-contributory based benefits.
It should be illegal to give a non-UK citizen social housing where UK Citizens are on the waiting list.
None of the above opinions should be in any way controversial. That they are is why we're in the mess that we're in and looking down the barrel of racial wars. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Dear me on 19:48 - Aug 13 with 1743 views | max936 |
| Dear me on 10:30 - Aug 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I couldn’t even work out what language he was speaking. |
Good point that. | | | |
| Dear me on 20:02 - Aug 13 with 1709 views | max936 |
| Dear me on 19:47 - Aug 13 by Dr_Winston |
It should be illegal to appoint a non-UK citizen to a job where a suitably qualified UK citizen has applied.
It should be illegal to pay a non-UK citizen non-contributory based benefits.
It should be illegal to give a non-UK citizen social housing where UK Citizens are on the waiting list.
None of the above opinions should be in any way controversial. That they are is why we're in the mess that we're in and looking down the barrel of racial wars. |
They are giving some asylum seekers 300k brand new houses, Burnham wants to spread these people around the country, it's a disastrous idea, they don't know where a good many of them are now and he wants to let them loose all over the country, when he has no idea as to who these people are and as to what their backgrounds are,
This country is a madhouse and is getting worse under this government, no wonder we got the likes of Farage and co along with Rupert Lowe gaining popularity.  | | | |
| Dear me on 20:03 - Aug 13 with 1695 views | Whiterockin |
| Dear me on 17:23 - Aug 13 by onehunglow |
Ey op
I would disagree
Of course not all young people are feckless lazy buggers but many are and the thought of hard repetitive physical work terrifies them
Moreover I would rather British girls train to be carers rather than relying on oversees folk
Carers do a very tough job physically and mentally and it takes its to
Carers should be paid far far more and the owners scrutinised more closely
Fees are a scandal |
So only girls should train as carers, my god I don't believe what I read sometimes. |  | | |
| Dear me on 20:12 - Aug 13 with 1685 views | JJBomber |
| Dear me on 19:47 - Aug 13 by Dr_Winston |
It should be illegal to appoint a non-UK citizen to a job where a suitably qualified UK citizen has applied.
It should be illegal to pay a non-UK citizen non-contributory based benefits.
It should be illegal to give a non-UK citizen social housing where UK Citizens are on the waiting list.
None of the above opinions should be in any way controversial. That they are is why we're in the mess that we're in and looking down the barrel of racial wars. |
Immigrants are not entitled to any benefits until they have paid NI for 3 years. Bogus and even real asylum seekers get them from Day 1.
The NHS would fall apart without immigrants.
How about it should be illegal to pay unemployment benefit while there still unfilled vacancies of 3 months or more? |  | | |
| Dear me on 20:12 - Aug 13 with 1657 views | Scotia |
| Dear me on 19:47 - Aug 13 by Dr_Winston |
It should be illegal to appoint a non-UK citizen to a job where a suitably qualified UK citizen has applied.
It should be illegal to pay a non-UK citizen non-contributory based benefits.
It should be illegal to give a non-UK citizen social housing where UK Citizens are on the waiting list.
None of the above opinions should be in any way controversial. That they are is why we're in the mess that we're in and looking down the barrel of racial wars. |
That would work if we didn't desperately need non UK citizens, and in some cases actually applies now with universal credit and some workers, particularly in care.
And theres a world of difference between suitably qualified and competent. | | | |
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| Dear me on 20:13 - Aug 13 with 1673 views | Dr_Winston |
| Dear me on 20:02 - Aug 13 by max936 |
They are giving some asylum seekers 300k brand new houses, Burnham wants to spread these people around the country, it's a disastrous idea, they don't know where a good many of them are now and he wants to let them loose all over the country, when he has no idea as to who these people are and as to what their backgrounds are,
This country is a madhouse and is getting worse under this government, no wonder we got the likes of Farage and co along with Rupert Lowe gaining popularity. |
Burnham spreading these people around the country may actually be the straw that breaks the camel's back. A lot of places in the UK have escaped the worst that mass immigration can bring. Chucking thousands of these people in Lib Dem/Labour voting areas certainly won't win him votes. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Dear me on 20:24 - Aug 13 with 1638 views | Scotia |
| Dear me on 20:02 - Aug 13 by max936 |
They are giving some asylum seekers 300k brand new houses, Burnham wants to spread these people around the country, it's a disastrous idea, they don't know where a good many of them are now and he wants to let them loose all over the country, when he has no idea as to who these people are and as to what their backgrounds are,
This country is a madhouse and is getting worse under this government, no wonder we got the likes of Farage and co along with Rupert Lowe gaining popularity. |
They aren't given 300k brand new houses and we have to know exactly who they are for them to claim asylum. They're already all over the country, but mainly in deprived areas. | | | |
| Dear me on 20:37 - Aug 13 with 1640 views | onehunglow |
| Dear me on 20:24 - Aug 13 by Scotia |
They aren't given 300k brand new houses and we have to know exactly who they are for them to claim asylum. They're already all over the country, but mainly in deprived areas. |
But nowhere near deprived as where they come from.
Our normal shihole estate is a luxury for those who’ve been used to getting their water from standpipes ,if they’re lucky
We have or had relative stability
No houses ,not a cowshed for them
They should not be here
That is the point | |
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| Dear me on 20:37 - Aug 13 with 1645 views | Wingstandwood |
| Dear me on 20:13 - Aug 13 by Dr_Winston |
Burnham spreading these people around the country may actually be the straw that breaks the camel's back. A lot of places in the UK have escaped the worst that mass immigration can bring. Chucking thousands of these people in Lib Dem/Labour voting areas certainly won't win him votes. |
Indeed, a case of being (to quote a Magazine song) "shot by both sides".
Tactically/strategically inept of Labour, because the party is now going to be detested by both affluent and poor alike, because the fear of having multiple occupancy housing for unidentified peak testosterone males living on the same street is hardly vote winning stuff for Labour.
Could happen in any street, any postcode and any persons locality from here on in! The fear of "what if".... "what about public safety" and "what about my wife, my kids and my grandkids" is sure going to influence where that 'X' goes on a ballot paper! |  |
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| Dear me on 20:42 - Aug 13 with 1638 views | Wingstandwood |
And of course Reform U.K are going to take full advantage of this absolute clanger from Labour, because it'll be as popular as the poll tax was under Thatcher. | |
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| Dear me on 20:45 - Aug 13 with 1617 views | Dr_Winston |
| Dear me on 20:37 - Aug 13 by Wingstandwood |
Indeed, a case of being (to quote a Magazine song) "shot by both sides".
Tactically/strategically inept of Labour, because the party is now going to be detested by both affluent and poor alike, because the fear of having multiple occupancy housing for unidentified peak testosterone males living on the same street is hardly vote winning stuff for Labour.
Could happen in any street, any postcode and any persons locality from here on in! The fear of "what if".... "what about public safety" and "what about my wife, my kids and my grandkids" is sure going to influence where that 'X' goes on a ballot paper! |
I was on a work related thing a couple of months ago when someone there went on a rant about "hatred of migrants" and all I could think of was "you live in Pembroke. What the hell do you know about how badly some places have been affected?".
Moves like this might shake some people like that out of their misconceptions. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Dear me on 20:48 - Aug 13 with 1620 views | Wingstandwood |
Oh and Labour has now gone from "smashing the gangs" to aiding and abetting the gangs by incentivising/rewarding invaders to acquire the services of the very gangs that Labour was meant to be smashing in the first place.
Nothing like a free house to drum up trade hey! | |
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| Dear me on 21:08 - Aug 13 with 1603 views | Wingstandwood |
| Dear me on 20:45 - Aug 13 by Dr_Winston |
I was on a work related thing a couple of months ago when someone there went on a rant about "hatred of migrants" and all I could think of was "you live in Pembroke. What the hell do you know about how badly some places have been affected?".
Moves like this might shake some people like that out of their misconceptions. |
Ahhhh that aforementioned someone is a stereotypical 'luxury belief class' type, whose job security, pay and conditions are not affected in the same way as U.K workers having to compete with foreign slave labour competition.
The Romanian dry-liners during Simons Construction contract for Boots in Parc Fforestfach for example. | |
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| Dear me on 21:27 - Aug 13 with 1553 views | Scotia |
| Dear me on 20:37 - Aug 13 by onehunglow |
But nowhere near deprived as where they come from.
Our normal shihole estate is a luxury for those who’ve been used to getting their water from standpipes ,if they’re lucky
We have or had relative stability
No houses ,not a cowshed for them
They should not be here
That is the point |
Yes. I understand that. But it's equivalent to mainland Europe.
But messing about with stupid ideas about stopping them coming here and sending them home or anywhere else doesn't help.
They're here, we can't get shot of them in most cases (not ECHR related).
We have to stop the non genuine asylum seekers wanting to come here and reduce dependency on the immigrants we need. | | | |
| Dear me on 22:11 - Aug 13 with 1511 views | onehunglow |
| Dear me on 21:27 - Aug 13 by Scotia |
Yes. I understand that. But it's equivalent to mainland Europe.
But messing about with stupid ideas about stopping them coming here and sending them home or anywhere else doesn't help.
They're here, we can't get shot of them in most cases (not ECHR related).
We have to stop the non genuine asylum seekers wanting to come here and reduce dependency on the immigrants we need. |
Fair comment
Good discussion
Thanks | |
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| Dear me on 02:53 - Aug 14 with 1423 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dear me on 19:47 - Aug 13 by Dr_Winston |
It should be illegal to appoint a non-UK citizen to a job where a suitably qualified UK citizen has applied.
It should be illegal to pay a non-UK citizen non-contributory based benefits.
It should be illegal to give a non-UK citizen social housing where UK Citizens are on the waiting list.
None of the above opinions should be in any way controversial. That they are is why we're in the mess that we're in and looking down the barrel of racial wars. |
Agree with all of those.
The point I keep trying to make it we seem unable to address point one me as we can’t have a conversation about it as discourse is dominated by immigrants. We need to ween ourselves off imported labour we need to get nationals back to work. | | | |
| Dear me on 09:11 - Aug 14 with 1318 views | onehunglow |
| Dear me on 02:53 - Aug 14 by Gwyn737 |
Agree with all of those.
The point I keep trying to make it we seem unable to address point one me as we can’t have a conversation about it as discourse is dominated by immigrants. We need to ween ourselves off imported labour we need to get nationals back to work. |
Dead right | |
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| Dear me on 09:29 - Aug 14 with 1303 views | AnotherJohn |
| Dear me on 20:24 - Aug 13 by Scotia |
They aren't given 300k brand new houses and we have to know exactly who they are for them to claim asylum. They're already all over the country, but mainly in deprived areas. |
Re the housing issue, it is true that there are no cases where asylum seekers have been given ownership of 300K houses or the kind of security of tenure a family would get with a council house. However, it is reported that Serco have provided such houses as short term accommodation of asylum seekers in a Suffolk village, and also 250K 4 bedroom houses in Stoke Heath, Shropshire (though this latter scheme may be about to be paused).
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/
https://www.dailymail.com/news
Yes, I would have liked to be able to give links from the Guardian and Independent, but we all know they do not cover this kind of story.
The second claim that "we have to know exactly who they are for them to claim asylum" may be true in theory but not in practice. There have been several cases where a person given refugee status under one name turned out to be somebody else.
https://tribunalsdecisions.ser
https://tribunalsdecisions.ser | | | |
| Dear me on 09:50 - Aug 14 with 1286 views | Demitrius |
| Dear me on 20:13 - Aug 13 by Dr_Winston |
Burnham spreading these people around the country may actually be the straw that breaks the camel's back. A lot of places in the UK have escaped the worst that mass immigration can bring. Chucking thousands of these people in Lib Dem/Labour voting areas certainly won't win him votes. |
Damn right.
Been back in Wales these last two months and there's little demographic change since I left in 92.
There's a lot of hostility towards Reform/Restore - I've largely kept my gob shut as don't want to fall out with old friends but like you I feel like pointing out that they live in a protected bubble and have no idea of the cultural and demographic changes that have affected other areas of the UK and just how bitter, angry, frustrated and unheard a lot of people are
Burnham, as predicted, is even more tone deaf than Starmer and is protecting the ethnic minority bloc vote for his party. At least he's not pretending he's going to do anything about immigration other than pissing off non-Labour voters by continuing the policy of "rubbing their noses in diversity" He has no mandate, will become deeply unpopular and may soon be overseeing the largest display of civil unrest since the early 80s - this time it will be whites rioting not black folks... [Post edited 14 Aug 9:51]
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| Dear me on 10:34 - Aug 14 with 1256 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dear me on 09:29 - Aug 14 by AnotherJohn |
Re the housing issue, it is true that there are no cases where asylum seekers have been given ownership of 300K houses or the kind of security of tenure a family would get with a council house. However, it is reported that Serco have provided such houses as short term accommodation of asylum seekers in a Suffolk village, and also 250K 4 bedroom houses in Stoke Heath, Shropshire (though this latter scheme may be about to be paused).
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/
https://www.dailymail.com/news
Yes, I would have liked to be able to give links from the Guardian and Independent, but we all know they do not cover this kind of story.
The second claim that "we have to know exactly who they are for them to claim asylum" may be true in theory but not in practice. There have been several cases where a person given refugee status under one name turned out to be somebody else.
https://tribunalsdecisions.ser
https://tribunalsdecisions.ser |
So no ownership at any kind of access very rare.
Not saying it’s right in any form but again, we’re talking about the wrong thing. | | | |
| Dear me on 10:41 - Aug 14 with 1248 views | onehunglow |
| Dear me on 19:52 - Aug 10 by jack_lord |
MI6 have left agents to die, 2 para and the SAS have lost so many good men for the greater good and the government decided to let it happen. Someone calls the coastguard when these large rafts cross over. Do we have the technology in the sky to notice these rafts and call the french coastguard while they are in their waters. |
Probably | |
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| Dear me on 12:23 - Aug 14 with 1184 views | Wingstandwood |
| Dear me on 20:45 - Aug 13 by Dr_Winston |
I was on a work related thing a couple of months ago when someone there went on a rant about "hatred of migrants" and all I could think of was "you live in Pembroke. What the hell do you know about how badly some places have been affected?".
Moves like this might shake some people like that out of their misconceptions. |
The guy must have a sister like this one? "Dear me" and hypocrisy on steroids!
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